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Smooth_operator
08 November 2012, 05:56 PM
Namaste


Baha'i Faith ìLay not on any soul a load that you would not wish to be laid upon you, and desire not for anyone the things you would not desire for yourself.î
ìAscribe not to any soul that which thou wouldst not have ascribed to thee, and say not that which thou doest not.î ìBlessed is he who preferreth his brother before himself.î (Baha'u'llah, Gleanings, LXVI:8 )

Brahmanism ìThis is the sum of duty: do naught unto others which would cause you pain if done to you.î (Mahabharata 5:1517)

Buddhism ìHurt not others in ways that your yourself would find hurtful.î (Udana-Varga 5.18)
ìA state that is not pleasing or delightful to me, how could I inflict that upon another?î (Samyutta Nikaya v. 353)

Christianity ìDo unto others as you would have them do unto you.î (Matthew 7:12)
ì...and do not do what you hate...î (Gospel of Thomas 6)

Confucianism "Surely it is the maxim of loving-kindness: Do not do to others what you would not have them do to you." (Analects 15:23)
ìTse-kung asked, 'Is there one word that can serve as a principle of conduct for life?' Confucius replied, 'It is the word 'shu' -- reciprocity. Do not impose on others what you yourself do not desire.'î (Doctrine of the Mean 13.3)

Hinduism ìDo not do to others what would cause pain if done to you. î (Mahabharata 5.1517)
ìOne should not behave towards others in a way which is disagreeable to oneself.î (Mencius Vii.A.4)

Islam ìNot one of you is a believer until you wish for others what you wish for yourself.î (Fourth Hadith of an-Nawawi 13)
ìNo one of you is a believer until he desires for his brother that which he desires for himself.î (Sunnah)

Jainism ìOne should treat all creatures in the world as one would like to be treated.î (Mahavira, Sutrakritamga)
ìTherefore, neither does he [, a sage,] cause violence to others nor does he make others do so.î (Acarangasutra 5.101-2)
ìIn happiness and suffering, in joy and grief, we should regard all creatures as we regard our own self.î (Lord Mahavira, 24th Tirthankara)

Judaism ìWhat is hateful to you, do not do to your neighbor.î (Talmud, Shabbat 31a; Tobit 4:15)
ì...thou shalt love thy neighbor as thyself.î (Leviticus 19:18)

Native American Spirituality ìHumankind has not woven the web of life. We are but one thread within it. Whatever we do to the web, we do to ourselves.î (Chief Seattle)
ìRespect for all life is the foundation.î (The Great Law of Peace)

Paganism (Roman) ìThe law imprinted on the hearts of all men is to love the members of society as themselves.î

Scientology "Try not to do things to others that you would not like them to do to you."
"Try to treat others as you would want them to treat you." (The Way to Happiness by L. Ron Hubbard)

Shintoism ìHurt not others with that which pains yourself.î (Udana-Varga 5.18)
ìThe heart of the person before you is a mirror. See there your own form.î

Sikhism ìDon't create enmity with anyone as God is within everyone.î (Guru Granth Sahib, pg. 1299; Guru Arjan Devji 259)
ìCompassion-mercy and religion are the support of the entire world.î (Guru Japji Sahib)

Sufism ìThe basis of Sufism is consideration of the hearts and feelings of others. If you haven't the will to gladden someone's heart, then at least beware lest you hurt someone's heart, for on our path, no sin exists but this.î (Dr. Javad Nurbakhsh, Master of the Nimatullahi Sufi Order)

Taoism ìRegard your neighbor's gain as your own gain and regard your neighbor's loss as your own loss.î (Tai Shang kan Ying P'ien, 213 - 218)
ìI am good to the man who is good to me, likewise, I am also good to the bad man.î (Tao Te Ching)

Unitarianism ìWe affirm and promote respect for the interdependent web of all existence of which we are a part.î (Unitarian principle)

Wicca ìA'in it harm no one, do what thou wiltî (i.e., do whatever you want to, as long as it harms nobody, including yourself). (The Wiccan Rede)

Yoruba (Nigeria) ìOne going to take a pointed stick to pinch a baby bird should first try it on himself to feel how it hurts.î

Zoroastrianism ìDo not do unto others whatever is injurious to yourself.î (Shayast-na-Shayast, 13.29)
ìThat nature alone is good which refrains from doing unto another whatsoever is not good for itself.î (Dadistan-i-dinik 94:5)



my question if this is stated in these books why so much conflict

wundermonk
09 November 2012, 12:46 PM
my question if this is stated in these books why so much conflict

Unfortunately, there are OTHER not-so-good verses in many of the above mentioned holy texts. :(

Many Gods are very insecure and jealous, you see. So, they end up shouting "My d!@k is bigger than his - so better worship me and not him, else eternal hellfire for you puny human". Such Gods should grow a real pair and graduate from such childish playground pettiness.

Sahasranama
09 November 2012, 01:04 PM
That two or more religions have common elements doesn't mean that there are no uncommon elements between the religions.

http://hu.wikipedia.org/wiki/Venn-diagram

http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/a/ac/Venn%27s_four_ellipse_construction.svg

yajvan
09 November 2012, 02:59 PM
hariḥ oṁ
~~~~~~~

namasté


my question if this is stated in these books why so much conflict

Knowlege, action, achievement... these are the steps to enlivening a quality. If the words remain in books and not in one's actions, you have the conditions we find in the world today.

praṇām

Sahasranama
09 November 2012, 03:55 PM
Unfortunately, there are OTHER not-so-good verses in many of the above mentioned holy texts. :(

This is something universalists do not understand, they forget to look at the context of isolated quotations. In Islam for example treating others respectfully only goes as far as treating other Muslims respectfully. When it comes to infidels there are different standards.

Smooth_operator
09 November 2012, 05:45 PM
hariḥ oṁ
~~~~~~~

namasté



Knowlege, action, achievement... these are the steps to enlivening a quality. If the words remain in books and not in one's actions, you have the conditions we find in the world today.

praṇām

you're right

Believer
09 November 2012, 08:29 PM
Namaste,


Baha'i Faith ìLay not on any soul a load that you would not wish to be laid upon you, and desire not for anyone the things you would not desire for yourself.î
ìAscribe not to any soul that which thou wouldst not have ascribed to thee, and say not that which thou doest not.î ìBlessed is he who preferreth his brother before himself.î (Baha'u'llah, Gleanings, LXVI:8 )

Brahmanism ìThis is the sum of duty: do naught unto others which would cause you pain if done to you.î (Mahabharata 5:1517)

Buddhism ìHurt not others in ways that your yourself would find hurtful.î (Udana-Varga 5.18)
ìA state that is not pleasing or delightful to me, how could I inflict that upon another?î (Samyutta Nikaya v. 353)

Christianity ìDo unto others as you would have them do unto you.î (Matthew 7:12)
ì...and do not do what you hate...î (Gospel of Thomas 6)

Confucianism "Surely it is the maxim of loving-kindness: Do not do to others what you would not have them do to you." (Analects 15:23)
ìTse-kung asked, 'Is there one word that can serve as a principle of conduct for life?' Confucius replied, 'It is the word 'shu' -- reciprocity. Do not impose on others what you yourself do not desire.'î (Doctrine of the Mean 13.3)

Hinduism ìDo not do to others what would cause pain if done to you. î (Mahabharata 5.1517)
ìOne should not behave towards others in a way which is disagreeable to oneself.î (Mencius Vii.A.4)

Islam ìNot one of you is a believer until you wish for others what you wish for yourself.î (Fourth Hadith of an-Nawawi 13)
ìNo one of you is a believer until he desires for his brother that which he desires for himself.î (Sunnah)

Jainism ìOne should treat all creatures in the world as one would like to be treated.î (Mahavira, Sutrakritamga)
ìTherefore, neither does he [, a sage,] cause violence to others nor does he make others do so.î (Acarangasutra 5.101-2)
ìIn happiness and suffering, in joy and grief, we should regard all creatures as we regard our own self.î (Lord Mahavira, 24th Tirthankara)

Judaism ìWhat is hateful to you, do not do to your neighbor.î (Talmud, Shabbat 31a; Tobit 4:15)
ì...thou shalt love thy neighbor as thyself.î (Leviticus 19:18)

Native American Spirituality ìHumankind has not woven the web of life. We are but one thread within it. Whatever we do to the web, we do to ourselves.î (Chief Seattle)
ìRespect for all life is the foundation.î (The Great Law of Peace)

Paganism (Roman) ìThe law imprinted on the hearts of all men is to love the members of society as themselves.î

Scientology "Try not to do things to others that you would not like them to do to you."
"Try to treat others as you would want them to treat you." (The Way to Happiness by L. Ron Hubbard)

Shintoism ìHurt not others with that which pains yourself.î (Udana-Varga 5.18)
ìThe heart of the person before you is a mirror. See there your own form.î

Sikhism ìDon't create enmity with anyone as God is within everyone.î (Guru Granth Sahib, pg. 1299; Guru Arjan Devji 259)
ìCompassion-mercy and religion are the support of the entire world.î (Guru Japji Sahib)

Sufism ìThe basis of Sufism is consideration of the hearts and feelings of others. If you haven't the will to gladden someone's heart, then at least beware lest you hurt someone's heart, for on our path, no sin exists but this.î (Dr. Javad Nurbakhsh, Master of the Nimatullahi Sufi Order)

Taoism ìRegard your neighbor's gain as your own gain and regard your neighbor's loss as your own loss.î (Tai Shang kan Ying P'ien, 213 - 218)
ìI am good to the man who is good to me, likewise, I am also good to the bad man.î (Tao Te Ching)

Unitarianism ìWe affirm and promote respect for the interdependent web of all existence of which we are a part.î (Unitarian principle)

Wicca ìA'in it harm no one, do what thou wiltî (i.e., do whatever you want to, as long as it harms nobody, including yourself). (The Wiccan Rede)

Yoruba (Nigeria) ìOne going to take a pointed stick to pinch a baby bird should first try it on himself to feel how it hurts.î

Zoroastrianism ìDo not do unto others whatever is injurious to yourself.î (Shayast-na-Shayast, 13.29)
ìThat nature alone is good which refrains from doing unto another whatsoever is not good for itself.î (Dadistan-i-dinik 94:5)



my question if this is stated in these books why so much conflictIs this long list compiled by the poster himself? If so, he/she must be quite learned to have read so many different scriptures and must know the answer to the question posed.

If however, it is a cut and paste from another forum, then many answers must have been provided already in that forum. Why not share those answers?

Pranam.

Smooth_operator
17 November 2012, 11:42 AM
they never did answer.

do you think that this notion of the golden rule is flawed?