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Eastern Mind
12 February 2014, 01:44 PM
Vannakkam:

Gluten (found in wheat, but also in some other foods) intolerance is just coming to the forefront as a big dietary concern. Celiac's disease is a full blown gluten problem that causes nasty allergic effects. Many people, including myself have gluten sensitivity. (as opposed to allergy) In won't kill me, but it won't make me feel very great either. Side effects are long, but include bloating and an assortment of other intestinal ailments.

The world is slowly becoming aware of it, but in the third world it is still basically unheard of. In one discussion I had, a person claimed that was because it was regional in nature which isn't true. Mankind across the planet is equally affected. But it you're not aware of a problem, then it's not a problem. Meanwhile people suffer.

On my flight to Mauritius with Emirates, you could get vegetarian, Indian vegetarian, or gluten free, but not vegetarian gluten free. On the way there I ordered vegetarian, and could eat hardly anything, so on the way home I ordered gluten free. Other than some horrid looking piece of chicken flesh, the rest was fine. :)

Here's a website dedicated to the combination of both. http://simplevegetarianandglutenfree.com/

Aum Namasivaya

Sahasranama
12 February 2014, 02:02 PM
There are definitely people who have legitimate problems with gluten, but it has become a fad in the health world to avoid gluten without any underlying medical condition. Gluten should not be a big dietary concern, unless someone has been advised by a medical professional to avoid consumption.

Eastern Mind
12 February 2014, 02:38 PM
There are definitely people who have legitimate problems with gluten, but it has become a fad in the health world to avoid gluten without any underlying medical condition. Gluten should not be a big dietary concern, unless someone has been advised by a medical professional to avoid consumption.

Vannakkam: Very true. My doctor advised to go off it for 2 to 3 weeks, then eat some and watch. This is common and simple way to diagnose quite a few food sensitivity issues. Lots of people don't even have the will or are too stubborn even to experiment. So we do have to watch out for faddish stuff. OTOH, doctors aren't necessarily the be all and end all of nutrition either. I've heard of some doctors who still think you'll die if you're a vegetarian.

Aum Namasivaya

Avyaydya
12 February 2014, 06:06 PM
There are definitely people who have legitimate problems with gluten, but it has become a fad in the health world to avoid gluten without any underlying medical condition. Gluten should not be a big dietary concern, unless someone has been advised by a medical professional to avoid consumption.
Namaste Sahasranama,

It is not the gluten that is the cause of so many problems, but it is in the modern wheat. Wheat today is radically different than fifty years ago. This video (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UbBURnqYVzw) may open your eyes. Our wheat is so bad it proved unusable for livestock, it made them sick, they had to return to spelt (original wheat). Modern wheat is something of a toxin with opiate-like qualities creating continuous hunger, and the prime cause of overweight and diabetes but also causing and aggravating mental disorders. Alas modern wheat is now used all over the world because it gives 5-10 times higher production.

It is best to completely stop eating modern wheat. If you want to use wheat you should use spelt instead. Spelt is the original wheat. by the way the gluten in spelt are different from modern wheat. Modern wheat is so radical different it even has different number of chromosomes.

Believer
12 February 2014, 07:16 PM
Namaste,

I've heard of some doctors who still think you'll die if you're a vegetarian.
I am not a doctor but even I know that one day you will die regardless of whether you are a vegetarian or not. ;)
Sorry, could not resist.

Pranam.

Eastern Mind
12 February 2014, 07:51 PM
Namaste,

I am not a doctor but even I know that one day you will die regardless of whether you are a vegetarian or not. ;)
Sorry, could not resist.

Pranam.

Vannakkam: You can always make me laugh. How about, 'should be dead by now' , 'cannot possibly make it through the month' 'will be sure to kick the bucket soon' , 'can't decipher why you haven't met your maker', ??

Diet is so controversial and undecided upon. I'd hate to actually care, and try to figure it out. Olive oil is bad for you. No, olive oil is good for you. Bad cholestoral, good cholestoral, fasting is good, fasting is bad. Try browsing this internet thingamajob, in case you haven't already. It's a mysterious place. Throw in a few agendas from food industry guys, and whoa, I need another Twinkie.

Aum Namasivaya

fem_phoenix1109
12 February 2014, 09:30 PM
Namaste,

Have you ever had quinoa? It is like a grain kind of, but it is gluten free and high in protein and really good! It's become a staple for me since becoming vegetarian and trying to avoid all of the modern toxic food.

Just thought I would share. I had never even heard of it until recently.

Pranam. :)

Sahasranama
13 February 2014, 01:17 AM
Namaste Sahasranama,

It is not the gluten that is the cause of so many problems, but it is in the modern wheat. Wheat today is radically different than fifty years ago. This video (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UbBURnqYVzw) may open your eyes. Our wheat is so bad it proved unusable for livestock, it made them sick, they had to return to spelt (original wheat). Modern wheat is something of a toxin with opiate-like qualities creating continuous hunger, and the prime cause of overweight and diabetes but also causing and aggravating mental disorders. Alas modern wheat is now used all over the world because it gives 5-10 times higher production.



nonsense

Eastern Mind
13 February 2014, 07:03 AM
Namaste,

Have you ever had quinoa? It is like a grain kind of, but it is gluten free and high in protein and really good! It's become a staple for me since becoming vegetarian and trying to avoid all of the modern toxic food.

Just thought I would share. I had never even heard of it until recently.

Pranam. :)

Vannakkam: Indeed quinoa is excellent stuff. There is a farmer in Manitoba that grows it, and I've always pondered if I could buy a 100 lb sack directly from him. The cost differential between that and my standard long grain brown basmati is substantial.

But the fact that you just recently heard of it is an indicator of how slowly nutritional news travels.

Aum Namasivaya

Believer
13 February 2014, 09:01 AM
Namaste,

Indeed quinoa has been around and is supposed to be good, but Kale; I am not totally sold on. I know it is off topic, but nutritionally speaking, to me it is one of the superior vegetable family items, rather a 'must eat' item. Our local grocery store has a museum/shrine of Kale in the produce dept. with different varieties in stock because the fad loving people who 'want to live forever' are willing to spend good money on it.

Pranam.[/quote]

Eastern Mind
13 February 2014, 09:48 AM
Namaste,

Indeed quinoa has been around and is supposed to be good, but Kale; I am not totally sold on. I know it is off topic, but nutritionally speaking, to me it is one of the superior vegetable family items, rather a 'must eat' item. Our local grocery store has a museum/shrine of Kale in the produce dept. with different varieties in stock because the fad loving people who 'want to live forever' are willing to spend good money on it.

Pranam.[/quote]

Vannakkam: The best thing (for Canucks) about kale is that it's (some varieties anyway) hardy to about -5 C, as is Swiss chard. So we eat the garden stuff for maybe a month beyond any other above ground vegetable. Have you tried kale chips?

Aum Namasivaya

Believer
13 February 2014, 02:02 PM
Namaste EM,

It is interesting to know that Kale is so hardy and provides for the leafy greeens much longer than other above ground vegetables. For us city slickers, driving in a Prius to a health food store to buy 'gift wrapped' organic kale is like going on a pilgrimage :).

Kale chips, how are they made? Is it kale dipped in batter and deep fried?

Pranam.

Eastern Mind
13 February 2014, 02:26 PM
Namaste EM,

It is interesting to know that Kale is so hardy and provides for the leafy greeens much longer than other above ground vegetables. For us city slickers, driving in a Prius to a health food store to buy 'gift wrapped' organic kale is like going on a pilgrimage :).

Kale chips, how are they made? Is it kale dipped in batter and deep fried?

Pranam.

Vannakkam: Cut the leaves off, and put them on a flat roasting pan, like a cookie tray... sprinkle lightly with an oil, seasoning, roast for maybe 10 minutes, probably less.

Aum Namasivaya

IcyCosmic
10 March 2014, 02:51 PM
I wish I could go gluten-free! I am starting to doubt my mother contracted Fibromylgia due to the amounts of gluten and unhealthy chemicalised wheat she started consuming when she came to the west. She may be very sensitive.
I'm contemplating going Vegan and gluten-free soon....I already have a terrible choice of food when I'm out socially though, so that wouldn't really help.
Thanks for all the awesome info EM.

May I add Chia seeds/Hemp seeds....wow!

Eastern Mind
10 March 2014, 03:33 PM
I wish I could go gluten-free! I am starting to doubt my mother contracted Fibromylgia due to the amounts of gluten and unhealthy chemicalised wheat she started consuming when she came to the west.

Vannakkam; My mother (and many others of that generation) suffered with 'digestive' problems for many many years. Back then there were no diagnoses. Tobacco was promoted as healthy. So we have a ways to go regarding salt, sugar, and other non-food foods.

Aum Namasivaya

devisarada
15 March 2014, 01:22 AM
Vannakkam: The best thing (for Canucks) about kale is that it's (some varieties anyway) hardy to about -5 C, as is Swiss chard. So we eat the garden stuff for maybe a month beyond any other above ground vegetable. Have you tried kale chips?

Aum Namasivaya[/QUOTE]

Kale has been eaten in northern Europe for centuries. It used to be "peasant food" I think your kale chips recipe is fantastic. Reminiscent of the seaweed snacks that you pay an arm and a leg for!

Eastern Mind
15 March 2014, 07:37 AM
I think your kale chips recipe is fantastic.

Vannakkam: We freeze it too. Just finished the last bag. The problem with the kale chips is they roast to quite small, and then disappear in a hurry. I think we'll grow twice as much this year. Last year a couple of plants got nailed by the dreaded cutworm.

Aum Namasivaya