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yajvan
01 May 2007, 09:33 PM
Hari Om
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Namaste,
I Have mentioned karaka's on a few occasions regarding Jyotish.
There are 3 types -
Naisargika or natural -shows everything that exists in creation. This is represented/owned by Brahma , since He is the author of all this creation. All 9 graha's are considered in this scheme.
Chara - are variable - there are 8 graha's ( Ketu is not included here) and are ruled by Vishnu. These chara karaka's indicate who influences the native in this life. Visnu rules over sustenance, maintenance and spiritual progress, these charakaraka point out these influences in one's chart.
Sthira - are fixed. There are 7 graha's in this category and are ruled by Siva. These fixed karka's show the destruction of the body , hence Rudra plays a key role. Rahu and Ketu are not part of the 7, as they do not have physical bodes (e.g. moon or Chandra is of material origin, size, weight, mass, etc). These sthira-karaka assists the Jyotisha in determining the death of the body.

So, this karaka is the significator, indicator or one who causes an event , situation or condition. We have natural, variable and fixed as mentioned above. The Charakaraka are of great import to the sadhu as it points out some key influences:
Atmakaraka - the SELF
Amatyakaraka - the Advisors ( guru's and the like)
Bhratrikaraka - Siblings
Matrikaraka - Mother or Mother figure ( nurturing)
Pitrikaraka - Father and/or Father figure ( a boss, leader, etc)
Putrakaraka - Children or Child like ( followers, sisya)
Jnatikaraka - Rivals
Darakarka - Spouse or the like ( married to or devoted to)

What is of interest is the Atmakarka for the sadhu - as this also assists one on determining the Ishtadevata from a Jyotish perspective. If one wishes to read this information please consider the following Ishtadevata specific posts:
http://www.hindudharmaforums.com/showpost.php?p=8883&postcount=1 (http://www.hindudharmaforums.com/showpost.php?p=8883&postcount=1)
http://www.hindudharmaforums.com/showpost.php?p=8886&postcount=1 (http://www.hindudharmaforums.com/showpost.php?p=8886&postcount=1)
http://www.hindudharmaforums.com/showpost.php?p=8940&postcount=1 (http://www.hindudharmaforums.com/showpost.php?p=8940&postcount=1)

When a Jyotish uses the Naisargika or natural karaka system, he/she looks at each graha and its indication/signification it plays in one's chart:
Sun: Ravi or Surya- Atma, physical constitution, eyes-seeing, health, east direction and dawn : Karaka of the 1st house ( Lagna), 10th (Career), 9th, and 5th houses.
Jupiter: Guru or Brihaspati - Family, wealth matters, expansion children, guru-teachers, religion, fortune, elder brothers: Karakak of the 2nd , 5th, 9th, and 11th houses. The NE direction.
Mars: Mangala - Courage, younger siblings, strength or stamina, blood, defense, enemies: Karaka of the 3rd, 6th, 4th, 5th houses. The S direction.
Moon: Chandra - Mother, compassion, feelings, mind & emotions, milk and ghee (soma too!), pearls, the evening: Karaka of the 4th, 1st and 11th houses, and the NW direction.
Venus: Sukla -wife and husband, martial relationships, vehicles, pleasures of the bed, fluids, perfumes, dance , music, song, e.g. feeding the senses: Karaka of the 7th house, 4th house, 12 house . The SE direction.
Mercury: Buddha - speech, learning, memory, credits, honors, friends, business, adeptness, mathematics: Karaka of the 2nd, 4th, 5th, 10th and 11th houses and owner of the North direction.
Saturn: Sani - longevity, troubles, grief, losses, ailments, limps, dishonor or fall from grace, hard labor, imprisonment, renunciation, one-pointedness. Karaka of the 8th, 6th, 5th and 12th and the West direction.
Rahu: accidents, occult knowledge, life in a foreign land, poisons, skin dis-eases, arguments, darkness. Karaka of the 7th, 9th and 6th houses. Owns the SW direction.
Ketu:- occult knowledge, moksha, detachment, fastidious, imprisonment. Karka of the 12th, 9th and 8th houses. Owns the NW direction.

I will add to this conversation to round out the discussion.

pranams,

sm78
02 May 2007, 01:35 AM
Namaste Yajvan,

Is Atmakaraka determined from the Navamamsha chart only ? Or just the birth chart ? You mentioned in one place in your posts that it is derived from the ninth divisional chart ~ but I am not fully certain that I understand you there.

Thanks for your posts on this important topic.

Arvind Sivaraman
02 May 2007, 05:22 AM
Hari Om
~~~~~~
Namaste,
I Have mention karaka's on a few occasions regarding Jyotish.
There are 3 types -
Naisargika or natural -show everything that exists in creation. This is represented/owned by Brahma , since He is the author of all this is on this creation. All 9 graha's are considered in this scheme.
Chara - are variable - there are 8 graha's ( Ketu is not included here) and are ruled by Vishnu. These chara karaka's indicate who influences the native in this life. Visnu rules over sustenance, maintenance and spiritual progress, these charakaraka point out these influences in one's chart.
Sthira - are fixed. There are 7 graha's in this category and are ruled by Siva. These fixed karka's show the destruction of the body , hence Rudra plays a key role. Rahu and Ketu are not part of the 7, as they do not have physical bodes (e.g. moon or Chandra is of material origin, size, weight, mass, etc). These sthira-karaka assists the Jyotisha in determining the death of the body.

So, this karaka is the significator, indicator or one who causes an event , situation or condition. We have natural, variable and fixed as mentioned above. The Charakaraka are of great import to the sadhu as it points out some key influences:
Atmakaraka - the SELF
Amatyakaraka - the Advisors ( guru's and the like)
Bhratrikaraka - Siblings
Matrikaraka - Mother or Mother figure ( nurturing)
Pitrikaraka - Father and/or Father figure ( a boss, leader, etc)
Putrakaraka - Children or Child like ( followers, sisya)
Jnatikaraka - Rivals
Darakarka - Spouse or the like ( married to or devoted to)

What is of interest is the Atmakarka for the sadhu - as this also assists one on determining the Ishtadevata from a Jyotish perspective. If one wishes to read this information please consider the following Ishtadevata specific posts:
http://www.hindudharmaforums.com/showpost.php?p=8883&postcount=1 (http://www.hindudharmaforums.com/showpost.php?p=8883&postcount=1)
http://www.hindudharmaforums.com/showpost.php?p=8886&postcount=1 (http://www.hindudharmaforums.com/showpost.php?p=8886&postcount=1)
http://www.hindudharmaforums.com/showpost.php?p=8940&postcount=1 (http://www.hindudharmaforums.com/showpost.php?p=8940&postcount=1)

When a Jyotish uses the Naisargika or natural karaka system, he/she looks at each graha and its indication/signification it plays in one's chart:
Sun: Ravi or Surya- Atma, physical constitution, eyes-seeing, health, east direction and dawn : Karaka of the 1st house ( Lagna), 10th (Career), 9th, and 5th houses.
Jupiter: Guru or Brihaspati - Family, wealth matters, expansion children, guru-teachers, religion, fortune, elder brothers: Karakak of the 2nd , 5th, 9th, and 11th houses. The NE direction.
Mars: Mangala - Courage, younger siblings, strength or stamina, blood, defense, enemies: Karaka of the 3rd, 6th, 4th, 5th houses. The S direction.
Moon: Chandra - Mother, compassion, feelings, mind & emotions, milk and ghee (soma too!), pearls, the evening: Karaka of the 4th, 1st and 11th houses, and the NW direction.
Venus: Sukla -wife and husband, martial relationships, vehicles, pleasures of the bed, fluids, perfumes, dance , music, song, e.g. feeding the senses: Karaka of the 7th house, 4th house, 12 house . The SE direction.
Mercury: Buddha - speech, learning, memory, credits, honors, friends, business, adeptness, mathematics: Karaka of the 2nd, 4th, 5th, 10th and 11th houses and owner of the North direction.
Saturn: Sani - longevity, troubles, grief, losses, ailments, limps, dishonor or fall from grace, hard labor, imprisonment, renunciation, one-pointedness. Karaka of the 8th, 6th, 5th and 12th and the West direction.
Rahu: accidents, occult knowledge, life in a foreign land, poisons, skin dis-eases, arguments, darkness. Karaka of the 7th, 9th and 6th houses. Owns the SW direction.
Ketu:- occult knowledge, moksha, detachment, fastidious, imprisonment. Karka of the 12th, 9th and 8th houses. Owns the NW direction.

I will add to this conversation to round out the discussion.

pranams,



Om Shirdi Sai Ram.
Namaste Yajvan.
The following may also be of interest to you.
If two planets are in combination in the Rasi and Navamsa and in particular if they are in same degree then the following results may accrue.
This is mentioned in the text Phaladeepika.

1)Sun and Moon - Skilfull
2)Sun and Mars - Sinful
3)Sun and Mercury - Intellectual,Literary ability.
4)Sun and Jupiter - Cruel and Helpful
5)Sun and Venus - Martial
6)Sun and Saturn - Skillful in pottery
7)Sun and Rahu - Unconventional form of working,Unfavourable to the father.
8)Sun and Kethu - Highly developed soul,Great spiritual Capacity.

Similar for other combinations.You may refer the book Phaladeepika for finer details.

yajvan
02 May 2007, 03:17 PM
Hari Om
~~~~~

Om Shirdi Sai Ram.
Namaste Yajvan.
The following may also be of interest to you.
If two planets are in combination in the Rasi and Navamsa and in particular if they are in same degree then the following results may accrue.
This is mentioned in the text Phaladeepika.

1)Sun and Moon - Skilfull
2)Sun and Mars - Sinful
3)Sun and Mercury - Intellectual, Literary ability.
4)Sun and Jupiter - Cruel and Helpful
5)Sun and Venus - Martial
6)Sun and Saturn - Skillful in pottery
7)Sun and Rahu - Unconventional form of working,Unfavourable to the father.
8)Sun and Kethu - Highly developed soul,Great spiritual Capacity.

Similar for other combinations.You may refer the book Phaladeepika for finer details.
Namaste Arvind and sm78,

Dear sm, if you access this post http://www.hindudharmaforums.com/showpost.php?p=8886&postcount=1 it will take you step by step on the arrival at the Ishtadevata - as seen in the D9 Navmasa Chart also called the Dharma-amsa ( Dharma-division) chart. I am happy to assist if there are additional questions.

Arvind, thank you for your post...yes these yoga's are quite interesting. I think BV Raman also has these in his 300 most important combinations book. We will also find special combinations pending different lagna's e.g. Hora Lagna, Sri Lagna, Ghati Lagna ( now it starts to get interesting!) not to mention the Graha Lagna for each planet.

Parasara-muni suggests looking at the amsa's or divisions of the two planets you mention above per the dasa varga scheme ( the 10 divisional charts) when considering the strength of a Raja Yoga. The more the planet is vargottma, in exaltation or moolatrikona ( all positive postions, more info on this if requested), then the Raja Yoga flourishes.
Sage Parasara grouped the charts thusly:
Shad varga or 6 charts - D1,D2,D3, D9,D12,D30
Sapta varga - 7 charts - D1,D2,D3,D7,D9,D12,D30
Dasa varga ( the one mentioned above) 10 charts Add D10, D16 and D60 to the Sapta list to get the 10.
These amsa's are finer and finer view of ones birth chart at higer levels of resolution. Not for the faint at heart or the beginning Jyotish student.

What I find worth the study, if there is time, is the insights that are revealed by the union (yoga), combinations of the graha's:

Ravi Yogas - solar combinations
Chandra Yogas - lunar combinations
Maha-purusha Yogas - producing 5 kinds of great beings/men and women
Nabhasa Yogas - celestial combinations
Raja Yoga - power and greatness combinations
Dhana Yoga - wealth giving combinations
Daridra Yogas - poverty combinationsThe most interesting yoga I see happen in this day-and-age is Vipareta Raja Yoga - that is, success after an initial struggle ( overcoming the odds as one would say) that involves the 6th , 8th and 12th lords ( owners of dusthana's).

pranams, and thank you both for your posts.

Arvind Sivaraman
07 May 2007, 03:22 AM
Hari Om
~~~~~~
Namaste,
I Have mention karaka's on a few occasions regarding Jyotish.
There are 3 types -
Naisargika or natural -show everything that exists in creation. This is represented/owned by Brahma , since He is the author of all this is on this creation. All 9 graha's are considered in this scheme.
Chara - are variable - there are 8 graha's ( Ketu is not included here) and are ruled by Vishnu. These chara karaka's indicate who influences the native in this life. Visnu rules over sustenance, maintenance and spiritual progress, these charakaraka point out these influences in one's chart.
Sthira - are fixed. There are 7 graha's in this category and are ruled by Siva. These fixed karka's show the destruction of the body , hence Rudra plays a key role. Rahu and Ketu are not part of the 7, as they do not have physical bodes (e.g. moon or Chandra is of material origin, size, weight, mass, etc). These sthira-karaka assists the Jyotisha in determining the death of the body.

So, this karaka is the significator, indicator or one who causes an event , situation or condition. We have natural, variable and fixed as mentioned above. The Charakaraka are of great import to the sadhu as it points out some key influences:
Atmakaraka - the SELF
Amatyakaraka - the Advisors ( guru's and the like)
Bhratrikaraka - Siblings
Matrikaraka - Mother or Mother figure ( nurturing)
Pitrikaraka - Father and/or Father figure ( a boss, leader, etc)
Putrakaraka - Children or Child like ( followers, sisya)
Jnatikaraka - Rivals
Darakarka - Spouse or the like ( married to or devoted to)

What is of interest is the Atmakarka for the sadhu - as this also assists one on determining the Ishtadevata from a Jyotish perspective. If one wishes to read this information please consider the following Ishtadevata specific posts:
http://www.hindudharmaforums.com/showpost.php?p=8883&postcount=1 (http://www.hindudharmaforums.com/showpost.php?p=8883&postcount=1)
http://www.hindudharmaforums.com/showpost.php?p=8886&postcount=1 (http://www.hindudharmaforums.com/showpost.php?p=8886&postcount=1)
http://www.hindudharmaforums.com/showpost.php?p=8940&postcount=1 (http://www.hindudharmaforums.com/showpost.php?p=8940&postcount=1)

When a Jyotish uses the Naisargika or natural karaka system, he/she looks at each graha and its indication/signification it plays in one's chart:
Sun: Ravi or Surya- Atma, physical constitution, eyes-seeing, health, east direction and dawn : Karaka of the 1st house ( Lagna), 10th (Career), 9th, and 5th houses.
Jupiter: Guru or Brihaspati - Family, wealth matters, expansion children, guru-teachers, religion, fortune, elder brothers: Karakak of the 2nd , 5th, 9th, and 11th houses. The NE direction.
Mars: Mangala - Courage, younger siblings, strength or stamina, blood, defense, enemies: Karaka of the 3rd, 6th, 4th, 5th houses. The S direction.
Moon: Chandra - Mother, compassion, feelings, mind & emotions, milk and ghee (soma too!), pearls, the evening: Karaka of the 4th, 1st and 11th houses, and the NW direction.
Venus: Sukla -wife and husband, martial relationships, vehicles, pleasures of the bed, fluids, perfumes, dance , music, song, e.g. feeding the senses: Karaka of the 7th house, 4th house, 12 house . The SE direction.
Mercury: Buddha - speech, learning, memory, credits, honors, friends, business, adeptness, mathematics: Karaka of the 2nd, 4th, 5th, 10th and 11th houses and owner of the North direction.
Saturn: Sani - longevity, troubles, grief, losses, ailments, limps, dishonor or fall from grace, hard labor, imprisonment, renunciation, one-pointedness. Karaka of the 8th, 6th, 5th and 12th and the West direction.
Rahu: accidents, occult knowledge, life in a foreign land, poisons, skin dis-eases, arguments, darkness. Karaka of the 7th, 9th and 6th houses. Owns the SW direction.
Ketu:- occult knowledge, moksha, detachment, fastidious, imprisonment. Karka of the 12th, 9th and 8th houses. Owns the NW direction.

I will add to this conversation to round out the discussion.

pranams,


Om Shirdi Sai Ram.
Namaste Yajvan.
The following may be of interest to you.
1)If the Atmakaraka is placed in the Navamsa Lagna or is conjoined with the Navamsa Lagna Lord or aspects the Navamsa Lagna then , though the native is born in a low family he will rise to a very high rank.The Surya(Sun)needs to be strong in this case for complete benefits.
2)If the Atmakaraka is in second from Navamsa Lagna then the individual will be a great saint.If Sani(Saturn) is strong, the result will fructify and if Sukra(Venus) is strong then there will be lot of perseverance.
3)If the Atmakaraka is in the Third from Navamsa Lagna then the native will be rich,sucessful and will be friendly to many powerful people.
4)If the Atmakaraka is in fourth from Navamsa Lagna then the native will be a Karma Yogi.The palcement of Chandran(Moon) and Guru(Jupiter) will confer Fame,a strong Raja Yoga will result if Surya(Sun) is strong and if Sani(Saturn) is strong then the native will be a very hardworking person.
5)If Atmakaraka is in 5th from Navamsa Lagna then the native will be a Dharma Parayana(Follower of Dharma.)If Surya(Sun) is strong then the native will have the blessings of his Father.
6)If Atmakaraka is in 6th from Navamsa Lagna then the native will be diseased and troubled.Propitiate as per Sani(Saturn) and fast on Full moon days.Speak the Truth.Om Tat Sat.
7)If the Atmakaraka is in 7th from the Navamsa Lagna then the native will be blessed with a clean heart.If Sukra(Venus) is strong then the native will have the blessings of a good wife.
8)If the Atmakaraka is in 8th house from the Navamsa Lagna then the native will be troubled and defeated in war.Propitiate as per Sani(Saturn) and fast on Full moon days. Speak the Truth.Om Tat Sat.
9)If the Atmakaraka is in 9th house from the Navamsa Lagna then the native will be a very pious person,fortunate and lucky.
10)If the Atmakaraka is in 10th house from the Navamsa Lagna then the native will be blessed with a clean heart.The native will be the bread winner for the family and for his mother in particular.The placement of a strong Chandran(Moon) will be an added blessing.
11)If the Atmakaraka is in 11th house from the Navamsa Lagna then the native will be courageous and will be efficient in executing many tasks.The placement of strong Mangal(Mars) will result in a Rajayoga.
12)If the Atmakaraka is in 12th house from the Navamsa Lagna then the native will have the complete blessings of Goddess Lakshmi(Goddess of Wealth.)

Pl Note :
1)Jaimini Astrology includes Rahu (Dragon's Head) also as an 8th Atmakaraka.
2)Navamsa Lagna means Navamsa (9th Division of Rasi) Ascendent.

yajvan
07 May 2007, 10:02 PM
Hari Om
~~~~~

Om Shirdi Sai Ram.
Namaste Yajvan.
The following may be of interest to you.

Namaste Arvid,

.... beautiful , and thank you.
I thought my next post would be on the tattva's - perhaps if you wish to share your knowledge , we can pass on to other HDF members? That is, how the tattva's also relate to the graha's, and this, is the basis of their influence.

Thanks again for your post. Jaimini-muni is most excellent and provides additional insight to Parashara-muni's works.

pranams,

Arvind Sivaraman
16 May 2007, 01:17 AM
[quote=yajvan;12277]Hari Om
~~~~~


Namaste Arvid,

.... beautiful , and thank you.
I thought my next post would be on the tattva's - perhaps if you wish to share your knowledge , we can pass on to other HDF members? That is, how the tattva's also relate to the graha's, and this, is the basis of their influence.

Thanks again for your post. Jaimini-muni is most excellent and provides additional insight to Parashara-muni's works.

Om Shirdi Sai Ram.
Namaste.

Shri Yajvan,do you have any knowledge on the effects of Badhaka(Obstruction) and Badhakesh(The lord of Bhadhaka) pertaining to different houses in Astrology.
For Eg : It is said that if the Bhadhaka or the Bhadhaka Lord is in the 12th house from the Lagna (Ascendent) then there will not be much hindrances for the native.The 12th house being the house of Loss / Moksh(Salvation.)
I would like to know the results from 1st house till 12th house.

Pl Note : I know the Bhadhaka's for different houses.
Bhadhaka - For a Moveable sign it is the 11th house lord,For a Fixed sign it is the 9th house lord and For a Dual sign it is the 7th house lord.
An Eg : Aries (Moveable)Sign - Saturn,Taurus(Fixed) Sign - Saturn,Gemini(Dual) Sign - Jupiter and so forth.
Bhadhakesh - If for a Aries lagna,Saturn is in Aries then the Bhadakesh would be lord of the house wherein Saturn is situated.viz;Mars.

yajvan
16 May 2007, 01:06 PM
Hari Om
~~~~~


... effects of Badhaka(Obstruction) and Badhakesh(The lord of Bhadhaka) pertaining to different houses in Astrology. For Eg : It is said that if the Bhadhaka or the Bhadhaka Lord is in the 12th house from the Lagna (Ascendent) then there will not be much hindrances for the native.The 12th house being the house of Loss / Moksh(Salvation.) I would like to know the results from 1st house till 12th house.

Pl Note : I know the Bhadhaka's for different houses.
Bhadhaka - For a Moveable sign it is the 11th house lord,For a Fixed sign it is the 9th house lord and For a Dual sign it is the 7th house lord.
An Eg : Aries (Moveable)Sign - Saturn,Taurus(Fixed) Sign - Saturn,Gemini(Dual) Sign - Jupiter and so forth.
Bhadhakesh - If for a Aries lagna,Saturn is in Aries then the Bhadakesh would be lord of the house wherein Saturn is situated.viz;Mars.

Namaste Arvind,
Yes the bhadaka I have studied a bit and some of the remedies...For those reading for the first time, this Badhakesh , or the lord of the badhak sign, causes obstructions in ones life. There is also Tara Vedha, or by nakshatra constillation too ( we will not discuss at this juncture).
We also know that removal of obsticles is owned by Ganesha ( Ganapathi) and is instrimental here with the badak issues, yet that mentioned:

What is your area of interest. Is this regarding dosha's or kastha phala [ areas of problem or issues]. Many times one can look to the Arudha's and see issues too... bhadaka graha's play a role no doubt. PLease discuss and we can take a look... Depending on the lord of the rasi where the badhakesh resides, it will indicate the blemish.

Yet you ask, "I would like to know the results from 1st house till 12th house" are you asking for the results for each?
If this is the case, this becomes a long post for each rasi + the exceptions for each. Plus, as you already know, Rahu is badak-karaka and its placement also has to then be reviewed. ALso added to this task is Prasna Marga sites additional ideas of Badak houses:
For all movable rasi's - Aquarius is badak (owned bt Sani)
For leo/virgo/scoripo and sagittarius - Scorpio ( that natual 8th house) is badak
For capricorn - taurus ( owner is Venus) and is Badak
For gemini/pisces - sagittarius and Guru ( Jupiter) is badak which I Have found unusual as Guru is the most sattvic.

One cannot forget the 22nd drekkana ( pronounced dresh-kana) can cause badak effects and the 64th navamasa too.

So this request suggests more of a study then a post...

One last thought you mention " Bhadhaka Lord is in the 12th house from the Lagna (Ascendent) then there will not be much hindrances for the native.The 12th house being the house of Loss / Moksh(Salvation.)"

Yes, the 12th a loss house and not much harm is indicated, yet it is still recommended that a simple remedial measure to the tattva or the badak graha of music and song be offered. For each graha there is a specific offering or remedial measure ( some call upaye) - this can be yajya's, puja, gifting to the poor, arranging festivals and dance ( that of happiness), etc.


pranams,

Arvind Sivaraman
18 May 2007, 11:33 PM
Hari Om
~~~~~


Namaste Arvind,
Yes the bhadaka I have studied a bit and some of the remedies...For those reading for the first time, this Badhakesh , or the lord of the badhak sign, causes obstructions in ones life. There is also Tara Vedha, or by nakshatra constillation too ( we will not discuss at this juncture).
We also know that removal of obsticles is owned by Ganesha ( Ganapathi) and is instrimental here with the badak issues, yet that mentioned:

What is your area of interest. Is this regarding dosha's or kastha phala [ areas of problem or issues]. Many times one can look to the Arudha's and see issues too... bhadaka graha's play a role no doubt. PLease discuss and we can take a look... Depending on the lord of the rasi where the badhakesh resides, it will indicate the blemish.

Yet you ask, "I would like to know the results from 1st house till 12th house" are you asking for the results for each?
If this is the case, this becomes a long post for each rasi + the exceptions for each. Plus, as you already know, Rahu is badak-karaka and its placement also has to then be reviewed. ALso added to this task is Prasna Marga sites additional ideas of Badak houses:
For all movable rasi's - Aquarius is badak (owned bt Sani)
For leo/virgo/scoripo and sagittarius - Scorpio ( that natual 8th house) is badak
For capricorn - taurus ( owner is Venus) and is Badak
For gemini/pisces - sagittarius and Guru ( Jupiter) is badak which I Have found unusual as Guru is the most sattvic.

One cannot forget the 22nd drekkana ( pronounced dresh-kana) can cause badak effects and the 64th navamasa too.

So this request suggests more of a study then a post...

One last thought you mention " Bhadhaka Lord is in the 12th house from the Lagna (Ascendent) then there will not be much hindrances for the native.The 12th house being the house of Loss / Moksh(Salvation.)"

Yes, the 12th a loss house and not much harm is indicated, yet it is still recommended that a simple remedial measure to the tattva or the badak graha of music and song be offered. For each graha there is a specific offering or remedial measure ( some call upaye) - this can be yajya's, puja, gifting to the poor, arranging festivals and dance ( that of happiness), etc.


pranams,

Om Shirdi Sai Ram.
Namaste Yajvan.
Could you please suggest an appropriate book which would give an insight into the Badhaka and Badhakesh.
Please emntion the name of the book and the author.

yajvan
19 May 2007, 11:25 AM
Om Shirdi Sai Ram.
Could you please suggest an appropriate book which would give an insight into the Badhaka and Badhakesh. Please emntion the name of the book and the author.

Namaste Arvind,
I wish I had one book to recommend - this knowledge is across mutiple books, papers, etc.
I do have several books that give some info in pages not chapters , that is not comprehensive but worth having. ANd if you are pursuing Jyotish for study having these books will only increase your knowledge:
- Crux of Vedic Astrology - timing of Events, by Sanjay Rath
- Vedic Remedies In Astrology - Sanjay Rath

Sanjay's skills, parampara, insights, etc are are substantial. He is a beacon of Jyotish knowledge in this time we live. I think both books are from Sagar publications.

His sisya's too are starting to produce books and literature. The Jyotishi I look for guidence, advice, study and the like also has spent time with Sanjay. Hope this meets your expectations.

If you care for a list of 'must have' books on Jyotish I will be happy to list them out.

yajvan
23 November 2007, 05:26 PM
Hari Om
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Namaste Yajvan,
The native is 50 years old and running Rahu Dasa. He was struck with Diabetes at the age of 32 years.
As you can see Mars and Saturn dominate the chart. Is that the reason, the native is stuck in an above average position in life. What is in store for him. Does the disease hamper his rise? How to interpret this chart where all the classical rules apply regarding Atmakaraka and special Lagnas.
aavprasad

Namaste aavprasad,

Please note I wish this native well... I want to inform you that I choose not to do chart analysis as of late.

I do offer the readers of HDF insights and knowledge on jyotish subject matter and enjoy posting what little I know.

That said, just a few ideas [ I have not constructed this persons chart] :

Yet one must consider the differences of the lagnamsa ( that of the body) and that of karakamsa ( soul or atman); Since this is a body condition one must look to the lagna, its lord, its location ( paka lagna) and the influences thereof.
Rahu dasa ( if you are talking Vimshottari dasa) is challenging for some; If well placed in the 3rd house one can consider a happy and long life, yet will have some grief due to brothers as it will be in the 3rd house, and also aspect the 9th from the 3rd ( the 11th) and additional brothers;
Even if it was the Atma karaka, the atma karaka dasa period increases the notion of purification of the native.
Saturn as you know will bring grief unless placed in upahayasthanas of the 3rd, 6th, 10th and 11th ( as the the benefits grow over time).
Yet note that diabetes is an affliction of Jupiter not of rahu. So an ill-placed jupiter with malefic aspects can make this occur. It also can cause an over-weight condition and an out-of-control sweet tooth.
I take note of one thing that you said, The issues for this native started at 32. At age 32 the naisargika¹ [natural] dasa of Jupiter begins and runs to 50 years of age. This dasa system is ruled by Brahma and can apply to all humans.
Interesting to me that both these conditions have occurred - Jupiter dasa and the dis-ease that jupiter offers - diabetes.Hope all turns out well for this person...

naisargika [natural] dasa division
1______ Moon - ones birth to 1 year old
2 ______Mars -1 to 3 years old
3 ______Mercury - 3 to 12 years old
4 ______Venus - 12 to 32 years old
5 ______Jupiter - 32 to 50 years old
6 ______Sun - 50 years to 70 years old
7 ______Saturn- 70 to 120 years old

pranams,

yajvan
24 November 2007, 09:39 AM
Hari Om
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Here I am quoting Sanjay Rath:
By no means will Atmakaraka improve the house significations in a standard way (as will lord of Lagna for example) The king of the chart has one single motive - to ward off the sins from previous birth, and to cleanse the person by giving suffering and pains, thereby setting the soul towards the higher planes.

All his conditions are fulfilled here.

If the native is suffering from an energy sapping disease, how can he progress either materially or spiritually? What will be the interplay of various important combinations in the chart ? Please enlighten me. Thanks
aavprasad



Namaste aavprssad,
Sanjay-ji is most wise... The Atmakarka can in fact purify. This may be by fulfilling the karma one has taken on and guiding appropriately. Nothing happens without the permission of the Atmakarka, this is Sanjay's words to his sisyas.

Note 'cleansing' used by Sanjay does not mean 'avoiding' or usurping.
Also note time frames... this is one life - to us may seem long, yet to the overall goal , this can be step 1 of 10 or 100, etc.

Also note what the Atmakaraka's suggested teachings are (Mars) for this life period: http://www.hindudharmaforums.com/showthread.php?t=764



It seems the culprits are a) Saturn sitting in the Lagna, Ghatika and Hora Lagnas and b) Mars (though he aspects 6 lagnas viz Janma Lagna, Ghatika Lagna, Hora Lagna, Chandra Lagna, Navamsa Lagna and Drekkana Lagn) occupying Roga Sthana- sixth house (Aries-his own sign). As Paka Lagna falls in the 6th house with Moon, the native was diagnosed with diabetes in Moon Major period (Vimsothari) and Saturn Antardasa. During Mars period he got respiratory disease but was cured.
So Mars, Moon and Saturn are the Roga Karakas for this native

Yes, this makes sense... Sani in the Lagna is a challange - the lord of the 3rd in the 1st = brave and courageous, yet sickly. It also suggests short tempered.
From my point of view, I see the 6th as Taurus. I also see the 12th house malific in the 6th house which should minimize/reduce Mars negitivity. I see your point on the calc of the 6th, but will keep to my view on this matter. I say this becasue I see moon as the owner of the 8th influencing here. AS you mentioned the diagnosis came in Vimshottari of Moon. What was the Narayan Dasa period of the time?

Last , what of the bhadhaka-pati? owner of Gemini i.e. Mercury?

pranams,

yajvan
27 November 2007, 11:58 AM
Hari Om
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But, a confusion arises when you said: "From my point of view, I see the 6th as Taurus.

Namste aavprasad,
I perhaps mis-understood and caused the confusion. I thought that you had shifted the lagna due to a bhava calculation... so all is well with the world and your initial chart setup is now comprehended.

Now the question for you is how to help the native?


pranams,

yajvan
25 May 2009, 09:17 PM
hariḥ oṁ
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Namasté

Many look to joytiṣ for answers to one's condition or outlook and what will occur in the future; or why things are happening today i.e. the causes. Many come to this great science when they're are troubles.

Yet joytiṣ is also there for the one that is not troubled, and wishes to live life ( the best we can) within the laws this universe offers and manages by. For this, there is the offering of the kāraka:
kāraka कारक- as a noun - 'instrumental in bringing about the action' ; in general , making or doing. In this conversation it is the grāhaka¹ ( the ~planet~) as one who produces, creates or influences a condition to unfold. Sanjay Rath is sympathetic to the notion of influences vs. directly controls on how the graha-s function.

So, if one wished to live a bit more in concert with the 'laws' the graha-s offer, let me list out 12 of them, as there are 12 rāśi-s¹ (signs) or bhāva ( houses) and this say the wise makes up ones life on multiple levels.
So, the logic is the following: If one follows the path of the kāraka, one is to prosper ( or align themselves) with the energy offered by the quality of the kāraka, for that house. Lets take a look at the first 6 houses in a very simple way.

The Sun is the kāraka of the 1st house.
He ( the Sun) is brilliance, health, balance, beautiful eyes and eye sight i.e. good health , as this is the indication of the first house, of ones health and being. The sun is perfectly balanced
(sattvic) and is the center of our solar system providing us with all the energy, momentum, light and atmosphere
( the energy for weather) for this good earth. If one follows the path of the sun ( rising early, going to bed on time); that of balance and brilliance , a regulated life, one reaps the benefits of this kāraka.
Jupiter is the kāraka of the 2nd house.
The second house ( in general) is about wealth, speech, food and nourishment. Jupiter is about expansion as the tattva of space (ākāśa) is attributed to Jupiter. For the benefits of Jupiter, one would consider the consumption of pure foods, sattvic foods and sattvic speech ( truthful). Also a savings plan - saving more then you plan to, brings wealth, and the influence of expansion of Jupiter's influence.
Mars is the kāraka of the 3rd house.
We know Mars as the warrior and also the bachelor. The 3rd house is much to do with courage - some call this deliberate actions ( purposeful actions); Hence purposeful actions are also considered the energy needed for sports and activities . We bring more of Mars' indications via the purification of tajas ( fire) of tapas, of balanced sexual appetite ( again Mars as the bachelor in this case suggest sexual drive that is managed); We also bring more of Mars' energy via this purposefulness in what we choose to do i.e. skill in action.
Moon and Mercury are the kāraka-s of the 4th house.
The 4th house deals with the mind, emotions (the heart), mother, and home ( family, etc). The 4th house is also about
Learn and learning institutions ( Higher learning we will see is indicated by the 5th house). From the Moon's perspective it is about nurturing relationships, maintaining peace and happiness ( for the mind to be in balance) within ones social environment ( family and friends). The moon does not have any enemies among other graha-s and practices the peaceful nature. This is the lesson the moon offers to bring the benefits of the 4th house to ones life. Mercury and learning is via observation, intent, and the notion of skill transfer via observation + imitating others more skilled.
Jupiter is the kāraka of the 5th house.
5th house is higher learning , children ( and subordinates), disciples and followers, spiritual techniques ( higher learning),.
Jupiter as guru is most fitting. The quality of dharma¹ in ones actions, giving without expectations; Jupiter's qualities as guru and as ākāśa is nourished here with giving and that of patience and forgiveness - some call this grace, one benefits from the qualities of this kāraka-s influence on the 5th house affairs.
Mars and Saturn are the kāraka-s of the 6th house.
The 6th house some call it a house of difficulties e.g. worries, anxieties, obstacles, enemies (external and internal i.e. vices), thieves, challenges, tests, urge for perfection (self-improvement techniques, competitive power , difference and conflicts. To win the favor of the kāraka-s here is one of strength. Such a strength that one's enemies do not even consider retaliation or challenges to the native. My teacher used to call this invincibility. What does this strength depend on? High character, dharma, and right action ( purposeful in one's duty). For Saturn's influence it will always be diligence and purposeful work.Lets stop here … More discussion on kāraka-s are shown in the posts above.
We can address the remaining 6 in the next post.

Venus is the kāraka of the 7th house
Saturn is the kāraka of the 8th house
The Sun and Jupiter are the kāraka-s of the 9th house
Sun, Jupiter, Mercury and Saturn are the kāraka-s of the 10 house
Jupiter and Saturn are the is the kāraka-s of the 11th house/
Ketu and Saturn are the kāraka-s of the 12th house.praṇām

words

grāhaka - one who seizes or takes captive
graha ग्रह- seizing , laying hold of , holding i.e. a graha ~seizes~ or influences the circumstances of the native.
rāśi राशि- is a heap, a mass, a pile, a group; in joytiṣ it is the name given to sign, as a collection point.
bhāva भाव from bhū becoming , being , existing , occurring , appearance ; manner of acting or conduct
dharma धर्मthat which is established or firm , steadfast decree , statute , ordinance , law ; from dhṛ धृ- that which upholds.
Additional reading: http://jyotishvidya.com/bhavas.htm

NayaSurya
26 May 2010, 06:49 PM
Hello, I am sure Yajvan and Arvind already have this book in their collection.

But, for anyone who would have use of it SCRIBD has a free download of Sanjay Rath's book on Atmakaraka. I downloaded it this afternoon and it's very wonderful.

http://www.scribd.com/doc/260016/atmakaraka


With much love<3

ketaki1981
03 June 2010, 05:53 AM
After reading this thread.... it seems to me that atmakaraka tells all those things about the person, or exactly person's soul..... all those things means soul desires, soul qualities, soul path, soul lessons, soul growth impediments, and maybe more.

Pleasse tell me if the above is true or false.