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Anirudh
29 September 2016, 12:45 PM
Namaste,


In the first such action, India carried out surgical strikes on seven terror launch pads+ across the Line of Control (http://timesofindia.indiatimes.com/topic/Line-of-Control) (LoC) with the Army saying on Thursday its special forces inflicted "significant casualties"+ on terrorists preparing to infiltrate from Pakistan-occupied Kashmir(PoK).


If anyone feel that the title of this thread is harsh, please remember that a hand full of teens brought India to her knees on 26/11. We all know how Mr M.M.S and Congress run GOI reacted. So I see a difference today.

realdemigod
01 October 2016, 01:43 AM
Namaste,
I think surgical strikes must be a child's play for Indian Army. :Cool: I'm sure the entire nation supports these strikes, there is a limit for someone to mess with your boundaries.

Anirudh
01 October 2016, 06:49 PM
Namaste,
I think surgical strikes must be a child's play for Indian Army. :Cool: I'm sure the entire nation supports these strikes, there is a limit for someone to mess with your boundaries.


Namaste realdemigod,

I don't want to spread negativity although it is worth to note few points....

1. Mumbai 26/11 attack was worse than any other attack in the past especially in terms of the national pride. We did nothing. Did we?
2. Entire nation? Either you are joking or GOI has cancelled citizenship of Karan Johar, Sitaram Yechury and the likes.

I am using strategic restraint (my foot) in not naming few Bollywood nobler than the noblest who are worried about their movies being banned in piggy land. What would we loose if we stop entertaining F@rt Kh@ns or ignoring their production houses altogether. Do you think Bollywood will die without the influx of Dawood's money?

As a matter of fact, other Indian Film industries are doing better without these known supporters of Piggy land.

At one end we have our PM risking everything to guard national pride and security, and on the other end these nobler than noblest with their vested interest thriving on us like parasites are airing disgusting comments.

In spite of all these insults and disgusting reactions we are going to see their production houses happily squeezing Indian money. Even then will you think Mera Bharat Mahaan? Sorry for the tone and selection of words, but that's the ONLY way left for an Indian who believe Mera Bharat Mahaan.

realdemigod
01 October 2016, 09:27 PM
Namaste Anirudh,
It's ok. In my world there are no celebrities and elite people. I never cared for celebs or I'm never star struck even I encounter someone somewhere at the airport or outside. It's my mistake to assume that others think like me :). But I exercise compassion to the extent possible on piddly little conditioned people who hanker after celebs and their lives. But people who give more importance to the sentiments of their celebs don't deserve to comment on things like 'Mera Bharat Mahan' like you pointed out.

c.smith
02 October 2016, 12:13 AM
Hari Om!

Anirudh Ji,

Your words are far from harsh, they are well placed and my applause is yours. It's more than time that these actions have been taken under the circumstances though casualties have occurred. May Bharat be successful it its endeavors.

Anirudh
04 October 2016, 02:31 AM
Hari Om!

Anirudh Ji,

Your words are far from harsh, they are well placed and my applause is yours. It's more than time that these actions have been taken under the circumstances though casualties have occurred. May Bharat be successful it its endeavors.


Namaste c.smith

Thank you for respecting our sentiments.

We all are well aware that piece of action was a long over due. Yesterday we lost another promising young life. It hurts us more when we come to know that these brave men were all from the Gangetic plain. Irony is, these states are termed as Bimaru (infected by diseases in comparison to other States of India) because of the policy bankruptcy aka Minority Appeasing Pseudo Secular Policies.

Not many Indians at least the young ones dont not know about the real seed of this curse and India is still repaying with her blood in her attempt to stand on her feet. When you find time, please read the article (http://hindunet.org/hvk/articles/0202/185.html) with an open mind (although coming from BJP). Please be informed that the policy maker portrayed here had more than friendly relations with Edwina and on the other well known Pakistani supporter less said the better.

Unfortunately come November, children will be praising the very reason behind the overwhelming insecurity. Although I am not a great fan of this journalist (a known Pakistani sympathizer (https://www.quora.com/What-are-the-reasons-behind-most-Indians-being-against-Barkha-Dutt-and-NDTV)), please watch this video (http://www.ndtv.com/video/news/the-buck-stops-here/from-the-frontline-meet-the-soldiers-who-stand-just-20-yards-away-from-pak-433560) and the dangers faced by our security men.

Thanks again for those warm words.....

Anirudh
04 October 2016, 02:54 AM
Namaste Anirudh,
It's ok. In my world there are no celebrities and elite people. I never cared for celebs or I'm never star struck even I encounter someone somewhere at the airport or outside. It's my mistake to assume that others think like me :). But I exercise compassion to the extent possible on piddly little conditioned people who hanker after celebs and their lives. But people who give more importance to the sentiments of their celebs don't deserve to comment on things like 'Mera Bharat Mahan' like you pointed out.

Namaste realdemigod,

Every individual has the right to express and live according to their priorities but when someone's lifestyle become an aberration to the whole of innocents it becomes mandatory to revisit our ideals. You and I responsible (directly or indirectly) for the above mentioned production houses laughing their way to bank. Isn't it? Modi ji made these f@rts as brand ambassador for the Swach Bharath abyaan, but what did we get in return?

PK, India gave them viza, worried about the safety emanating from fictitious growing intolerance, relocating to desert after fleecing & misguiding poor Indian youths.

Time to think....

realdemigod
05 October 2016, 06:22 AM
Namaste Anirudh,
When you want Power you need to some things which are uncomfortable and dirty.

c.smith
05 October 2016, 09:10 PM
Hari Om!

Anirudh Ji,

Thank-you for posting the article and video as they are both enlightening and accurate. Not to burden you, but anything else you wish to share would be appreciated as I value your views.

Wishes for a speedy resolve.

Om

Anirudh
07 October 2016, 09:02 AM
Hari Om!

Anirudh Ji,

Thank-you for posting the article and video as they are both enlightening and accurate. Not to burden you, but anything else you wish to share would be appreciated as I value your views.

Wishes for a speedy resolve.

Om


Namaste c.smith

Thanks for your warm words. I don't think the issue will be resolved anytime soon. Might not escalate into a full scale war, but can rule it out altogether. Border is tense with no end to shelling, so, unofficially (http://timesofindia.indiatimes.com/Pakistan-army-build-up-intensifies-on-LoC-civilians-pulled-back-from-frontline/articleshow/54746635.cms?) it s a near war like situation out there.


I understand you wished to know more about the Kashmir issue (or I misunderstood you completely). After 1947 policy makers re wrote many things for the local consumption because they had none to counter them. More over with no visible opposition party it was very easy to cheat naive illiterate voters. It was considered as sedition (probably even now) to question the policies of Congress.

Assuming that you wanted to know more about the Indian History especially related to the conflicts plaguing India, please read a book (if you can find in any good library) written by M.K.Singh on the independence of India.

Haven't read it as it cost a fortune but excerpts strewn on the web are seemingly touching the raw nerve.

Anirudh
07 October 2016, 11:53 PM
AHMEDABAD: With tension on border escalating, vegetable traders from Gujarat have decided to stop supply of vegetables, especially tomato and chilli, to Pakistan. This may affect nearly Rs 3 crore business of Gujarat farmers and vegetable traders every day.


Patel added that the vegetable vendors have to bear a loss of Rs 3 crore every day, but the national interest is above the personal interest. "However, we will continue to send the vegetables to Bangladesh, Gulf countries, Canada and South Africa," he said.

Salute, Pranam, __^__, :bowdown::grouphug: (http://timesofindia.indiatimes.com/city/ahmedabad/Pakistan-in-soup-No-tomato-chilli-supply-from-Gujarat/articleshow/54746600.cms)

Namaste

Call me intolerant but the fact is patriotism is above above anything else. It is proved beyond doubt that no one can expect it from minority appeasing (http://indianexpress.com/article/trending/trending-in-india/please-grow-up-rahul-gandhis-khoon-ki-dalali-comment-hasnt-gone-down-well-with-many-on-twitter-3070446/) pseudo secular noble (http://timesofindia.indiatimes.com/entertainment/hindi/bollywood/news/Salman-Khan-Pakistani-actors-are-artists-not-terrorists/articleshow/54604317.cms) hearts (http://www.timesnow.tv/india/video/sanjay-nirupam-doubts-army-calls-surgical-strikes-fake/50216). If you haven't seen these headlines please read carefully and spend some time with your conscience. Indian farmers have taken a stand although it will definitely impact their daily life while the angels of peace are worried about their movies banned in Pakistan. All is not bad, it is soothing to see even in Bollywood we have right wing (http://indianexpress.com/article/entertainment/bollywood/akshay-kumar-patriotic-call-to-fellow-indians-on-uri-attacks-3069032/) and kakki chaddis (http://www.hindustantimes.com/bollywood/not-at-the-moment-ajay-devgn-on-working-with-pakistani-actors/story-fA910QU0YSBqfOnHrniBDK.html)



18 families shattered, but pain of Fawad Khan’s departure is too much to bear (http://www.bollywoodlife.com/news-gossip/18-families-shattered-but-pain-of-fawad-khans-departure-is-too-much-to-bear-veteran-indian-army-major-lashes-out-at-bollywood/)



“18 families have been shattered like glass. Not a word for them by our Bollywood royalty, mind you. But the pain of Fawad Khan’s departure is too much to bear, it seems. A tweet in support of Pakistani artists is mandatory.”

You see the response in RED font below





Fawad Khan breaks his silence and clears his stand

(http://www.timesnow.tv/india/video/shocking-not-one-word-on-uri-in-fawad%E2%80%99s-statement-on-peace/50360)
Pakistani actor Fawad Khan, who has been questioned repeatedly over the past few days over his silence on the Pakistan-backed terror attack in Uri, Jammu and Kashmir, today took to Facebook to make a statement.
However, the dastardly attack in Uri finds no mention in his generic statement on the recent “sad incidents" that have taken place.


(http://www.timesnow.tv/india/video/shocking-not-one-word-on-uri-in-fawad%E2%80%99s-statement-on-peace/50360)

Seriously, what these guys think about us? Are we fools?

c.smith
08 October 2016, 04:40 PM
Hari Om!

Anirudh Ji,

Thank-you for continuing with the posts if only for my sake. They are very valuable on many levels, some of which you will come to know over time.

First let me inform that if circumstances were different at this time, I would be living in my beloved Bharat at this moment. Perhaps not in the cities with their lifestyles, but certainly there none the less. Again, you will come to appreciate this over time and recognize that this is not an illusion.

Now a question if I may? Have come to believe that most of the media cannot be trusted as they are backed by Christians, only one among many issues at hand. Not to get too widely political with that issue, but do you believe that the reporting they provide is influenced enough that it is inaccurate or can it be trusted in these matters? Everything that you have provided seems straightforward and trustworthy. Please advise.

National interest should always be foremost in the hearts of all a country's citizens. I applaud those that are taking a stand in India FOR India as it is the only way. If you are racist, then may I join your ranks! In the west, or better said, in the U.S., I don't see where citizens care much about national interest or other important social political issues. There are those that do of course, but the majority would fall into the category of self-serving and selfish - the "it's all about me" mentality. I will take a bashing for this but so be it. Again, another reason that it is so refreshing to see you and your views here and to know that there are others like you.

If full out war were to occur, and let's hope it doesn't, Pakistan as it is will not remain. This is fact. Good always overcomes evil and land was granted to Pakistan in the first place, it rightly belongs to India. This is not even the issue at hand but is simply pointed out as example.

Enough said. Your words are much more valuable than mine. Stay with it, don't be silent ... please continue the posts!

Om

Anirudh
09 October 2016, 05:10 AM
Namaste c.smith

Questions you have raised/asked require a long answer, how ever, will try my level best to be straight to the point. I am pacing my answer in a way it is readable at the same time will answer your questions.

As a native Indian, I see four different worlds in the same India.

1. Influenced by invasion, slavery etc ( Conversion as well as looking forward to the religious and other life style related ideologies)
2. Evil elements (corrupt office bearers, political goons, law breakers and ethic-less business houses)
3. Economically and socially oppressed as well as the misguided people (who unfortunately are playing into the hands of forces which is hellbent to balkanize India)
4. Grounded to the roots, going the extra mile to protect their culture as they have re discovered their real capacity.
5. An amalgamation of all the above

A person living in India can not exist without being exposed to all of them.

I have read a little bit about American political history that gives me birds eye view on the economic and social reforms made by successive presidents. So in comparison one can not (EASILY) stomach the level of corruption or evil practices SEEN in the public administration.

Although you didn't ask, have said the above things so that you will get useful points to support your decisions in future. If you want me to explain four worlds with examples, please PM me.

As I have seen both western and eastern world, (not just because I am a Native Indian,) any day will choose India as my home irrespective of its short comings because of the spiritual vibrations I experience here. The cost I will have to bear are the reduced comforts, that's OK with me. I believe in no free lunches. I am passionate about India because I sincerely believe this spiritual vibrations needs to be protected, nourished and spread across (just like we want to protect our planet). I believe every Individual especially we humans are born with a purpose, and our common purpose is to gift a better world to our children. There can't be any better gift than be a part India's renaissance to her glory.

Not just the press every thing that touches the life of commoner is continuously influenced by the Invaders. Why?

Real Independence of India has begun only when Modi ji was voted to power with a majority. During Vajpayee it was a coalition of different parties that wanted to get the taste of running the central government (Hierarchy : Indian Government --> State Government), so Vajpayee ji couldn't carry out what he or the BJP had been wanting to do since the days of 1947. Between 1947 and 2014 parties that ran the GOI did not address the needs of India, because, their main intention was to keep the Hindus under leash.

Please do some research, or better ask yourself, whether, the home minister of America will send (aka love letters) proofs of the attacks on the American soil to the same forces that were responsible for the attacks. Congress Government had been doing that.

Nehru approached UN when Pakistan occupied a portion of Kashmir, instead of flushing them out. In fact, I was told by elders that Indian army had just asked 5 days to flush the Pakistanis. Pakistan didn't had the military power to handled Indian army, yet, Nehru went to UN.

Chidambaram (Home Minister POST 26/11 Mumbai attack) wrote love letters after love letters. I can go on and on. But that's not the point I want to inform.

Let's see the whole scenario in a confrontational approach.

Why Congress run governments (except Indira) created more problems than solving? They want to break India.
Why they wanted to break India? Because they are are not Hindus in first place. Indian History is dotted with many incidents that force us to believe that they were the moles planted by British to suppress the real freedom fighters of India. On records they might be Hindus but in reality they are camouflaged Hindus.

Do I mean to say, Hindus don't want to live in harmony with the people who follow other religions? NO. If you read Hinduism you ll understand, even atheism is a part of Hinduism. Hinduism is something that stays with the soul till the soul reaches the destination. So do you think Hindus wouldn't want to live in harmony with others? Sadly, any one who advocates for Hindus rights are considered as hardliners or Hindutva morons :(

But considering the destruction of our culture in the past 1000 years by the invaders can any sane person believe that a non Hindu WILL protect the Indian culture?

Thanks for reading till this point.

So what you read from Indian press should be compared carefully with their roots of the publication houses, I think, biased reporting also exist in developed worlds.

These days I see Arnab Goswami of Times Now and Rajat Sharma (https://www.google.co.in/url?sa=t&rct=j&q=&esrc=s&source=web&cd=1&cad=rja&uact=8&ved=0ahUKEwiw8amDvM3PAhUBso8KHeKQBlkQFggeMAA&url=https%3A%2F%2Fen.wikipedia.org%2Fwiki%2FRajat_Sharma&usg=AFQjCNHnBzrXErqNBcr2SO80S5qd0h5ctQ) of Hindi News has got the WILL to call a spade as spade. I am not saying others should be out rightly rejected. We need to follow them and compare with the views of other chanells. For eg we have one man named Rajdeep sardesai a good journalist but has the canny way to protect pseudo secularism.

Arnab might not have pursued journalism with the same intensity ten years before. It is a collective action as the responsibility to provide high standard of journalism start from the TOP. After all he too a commoner.

What will you do when the person leading the party that was running the country could not control the organic emotional wreckage (http://www.ndtv.com/india-news/sonia-gandhi-cried-bitterly-after-seeing-batla-house-encounter-images-salman-khurshid-in-azamgarh-571479) upon seeing the treatment meted out by the Indian security establishment to the peace lovers.

But. All is not bad... Things are changing now albeit slowly. Actually it started when Mr M.M.S led GOI faced corruption (http://www.ndtv.com/topic/commonwealth-games-corruption) charges (http://www.ndtv.com/india-news/what-is-2g-spectrum-scam-439271) in every department (http://www.thehindu.com/news/national/excoal-secretary-five-others-charged-in-west-bengal-coal-blocks-case/article9007558.ece?utm_source=InternalRef&utm_medium=relatedNews&utm_campaign=RelatedNews) that you can think off. Even the land allotted to the widows of soldiers (http://indianexpress.com/article/india/india-news-india/adarsh-scam-army-begins-takeover-of-the-controversial-building-2944266/) was not spared.

Thanks to the internet, and the young India which wanted to out grow this, started seeing nefarious game played out by minority appeasing pseudo secular parties. BJP started making in roads and we have a prime minister who decided to talk the language our enemy understand.

I might sound like a Hindutva hardliner, mostly because, truth is stranger than fiction....


BJP IS NOT A SAINT, but any day better than the rest because their heart feel the pain of Indians (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Indian_people).


Hari Om!

Anirudh Ji,

Thank-you for continuing with the posts if only for my sake. They are very valuable on many levels, some of which you will come to know over time.

First let me inform that if circumstances were different at this time, I would be living in my beloved Bharat at this moment. Perhaps not in the cities with their lifestyles, but certainly there none the less. Again, you will come to appreciate this over time and recognize that this is not an illusion.

Now a question if I may? Have come to believe that most of the media cannot be trusted as they are backed by Christians, only one among many issues at hand. Not to get too widely political with that issue, but do you believe that the reporting they provide is influenced enough that it is inaccurate or can it be trusted in these matters? Everything that you have provided seems straightforward and trustworthy. Please advise.

National interest should always be foremost in the hearts of all a country's citizens. I applaud those that are taking a stand in India FOR India as it is the only way. If you are racist, then may I join your ranks! In the west, or better said, in the U.S., I don't see where citizens care much about national interest or other important social political issues. There are those that do of course, but the majority would fall into the category of self-serving and selfish - the "it's all about me" mentality. I will take a bashing for this but so be it. Again, another reason that it is so refreshing to see you and your views here and to know that there are others like you.

If full out war were to occur, and let's hope it doesn't, Pakistan as it is will not remain. This is fact. Good always overcomes evil and land was granted to Pakistan in the first place, it rightly belongs to India. This is not even the issue at hand but is simply pointed out as example.

Enough said. Your words are much more valuable than mine. Stay with it, don't be silent ... please continue the posts!

Om

Believer
09 October 2016, 11:37 AM
Namaste,


Call me......saffron terrorist....
Words have power and we should be careful in choosing them. Hindus don't take up arms in the cause of their religion. They just indulge in dialog. The term 'Saffron Terrorist' was invented by Congress functionaries to defame BJP/Hindus. I am not sure why you are degrading yourself by using the term to describe yourself. You are merely discussing the issue in the forum and not doing any physical harm to anyone. Please stop using this term for yourself and for other Hindus, as in the international fora this term has far reaching meaning and consequences.

Pranam.

Anirudh
09 October 2016, 12:38 PM
Namaste,


Words have power and we should be careful in choosing them. Hindus don't take up arms in the cause of their religion. They just indulge in dialog. The term 'Saffron Terrorist' was invented by Congress functionaries to defame BJP/Hindus. I am not sure why you are degrading yourself by using the term to describe yourself. You are merely discussing the issue in the forum and not doing any physical harm to anyone. Please stop using this term for yourself and for other Hindus, as in the international fora this term has far reaching meaning and consequences.

Pranam.

Namaste Believer,



Mostly my statements are and will be coated with sarcasm. I have a habit of scribbling and sarcasm is one tool I like the most to communicate my ideas. Anyone who understand Tamil will know it is called as Vanja Pugalchi (a tool to pass messages in subtle way). Upon reflection AND also after reading your comment, feel that should have exercised caution as sarcasm is a twin edged sword. Apologize.

I ll not use any more (also shall delete after scanning past posts), honestly, i wanted to bring out the hypocrisy of minority appeasing pseudo secular parties that insult Hindus while supporting peace loving doves like Kazab, Afzal Guru, Hafeeze etc.

Thanks again for your message...

PS: Other than sarcasm is there a better way to bring out the irony of being termed as oppressors while Indian Hindus are the victims of the so called peaceful operators (http://indianexpress.com/article/india/india-news-india/rahul-gandhi-rss-mahatama-gandhi-assassination-supreme-court/)? RSS (http://www.ibtl.in/blog/2141/myths-vs-facts-about-rss/) is at the receiving end (http://www.dnaindia.com/analysis/standpoint-rashtriya-swayamsewak-sangh-how-the-world-s-largest-ngo-has-changed-the-face-of-indian-democracy-1988636) and even compared with some banned outfits (http://timesofindia.indiatimes.com/india/Rahul-equates-RSS-with-SIMI-says-both-fundamentalist/articleshow/6703036.cms), for what? Safe guarding their vote banks? Please read the links I have attached....

Believer
09 October 2016, 02:05 PM
Namaste,

Use as much sarcasm as your heart desires. But in today's climate, the 'T' word can set off alarms at some security agencies of the world. Why invite trouble when all that you are doing is discussing the humiliation of Hindus? Please learn to live within the boundaries so as not to bring trouble for yourself and other forum members who may converse with you. If someone in India gives you this false title of Saff/T, slap them. Don't join them and start labeling yourself as one. We Hindus don't do any physical harm to anyone on religious grounds. So, why accept this stupid title and start calling yourself one, even as sarcasm?

Pranam.

PS, Additionally read this,
http://hindudharmaforums.com/showthread.php?11228-Some-Personal-Thoughts&p=124486#post124486

Anirudh
11 October 2016, 07:24 AM
Namaste,

interesting, getting to know your activities (http://www.firstpost.com/india/india-to-seal-border-with-pakistan-by-2018-rajnath-singh-after-security-review-meet-3039056.html) says our neighbor's all all-weather ally (http://timesofindia.indiatimes.com/world/china/Indias-decision-to-seal-Pakistan-border-irrational-Chinese-experts/articleshow/54790398.cms).

Does this require any more explanation? :)


"China is opposed to all forms of terrorism. There should be no double standards on counter terrorism. Nor should one pursue own political gains in the name of counter terrorism," he had said indirectly accusing India.

Anirudh
29 October 2016, 11:19 PM
Namaste


Yesterday night was watching a discussion on the course of actions available in the hands of GOI to deal the problem. Panel included defense analyst and retired Army men. All of them, agreed unanimously that perpetrators won't stop until a stern message is sent across. The message, they termed it as package, describing the ethos of both citizens and army men. I am not able to get the video at the moment, shall link when I find it.

Mean while, we should know Indian army has called off the Deepavali celebrations. What about us? Are we not citizens of India?

Did Mandeep Singh sacrifice his life for fun? (http://timesofindia.indiatimes.com/india/Slain-soldiers-hometown-will-not-celebrate-Diwali/articleshow/55136227.cms)