I need help to my questions as to why do i feel the need to listen to Shiva mantras

[iaminsignificant]

Hi and hello all, (Edited: added greeting, also i would like to sincerely apologize for not having done that in the first place)

I need help to my questions as to why do i feel the need to listen to Shiva mantras, if i am also wrong, unintentionally insulting or otherwise something negative is perceived, id like to apologize in advance, here is my story, as a child , more like a baby, i was baptized, roman catholic, or something like that, not sure tbh, my parents are more or less christians or some sort of version of those believers, you would think i would be familiar with it, but im not, since i was never interested in religion or in anything like that and have pretty early in my childhood dismissed the idea of "God" especially that form of christianity it was around the age of 6, it just didnt make sense to me, and still doesnt, as a child my parents brought me a few times to a church i dont recall the reasons well but it was some sort of holiday, never mind that, the thing is everytime when i entered a church (christian) i felt very strange and confused and had some sort of feeling of fear upon me, it hapend also later in my life even when i went on excursions with the school, even being near one makes me feel just wiered.
that said, i have been to several budha, shinto, and some other asian tempels, again forgive me if im using the wrong terms im really not religious and have no idea how to describes those things correctly, altough being at those places did not have any feeling or effect on me, not like the places of churches. now my whole reasoning why i was eager to get here is because i seek help.

Recently i have some unexplainable pull towards Shiva, i am not even sure how to explain it, i know it sounds strange, also maybe it is not strange but a common thing i really dont know, well i started about 3-4 weaks ago to check things about the human brain and things like about the councious mind and did read several things regarding the "God helmet" and other things regarding frequencies and sounds and also did read things regarding quantum physics and serveral things regarding our reality by Donald Hoffman, somehow going trough the youtube videos i came across one where he was together talking with Sadhguru "Jaggi Vasudev" regarding this subject. and one thing led to another and somehow i started to watch his videos and after that i decided to look into Shiva
and since that moment something has happened to me that i can not explain or maybe somebody knows what is happening to me i really dont know, i keep listening now very frequently to "mantras" about Shiva or dedicated to Shiva i am not sure if im explaining this correct or saying it correct, excuse me if thats the case, but anyway i feel the need to keep listening to those "Om Namah Shivaya" videos that exist on youtube and i recite/repeat/say along those silently or completly in my mind while i listen to that, and while im doing this tears begin to fall, the thing is i am not thinking about anything in those moments but only say the words, and i am getting very emotional and can not even explain which sort of feeling it is, i do not know if it is sorrow, happiness, or sadness, but i am sure that it is definitely not anger. Please help me i do not know what to do. i might need guidance or im not even sure what i need. i do not speak either Indian nor Sanskrit neither i can read it but i somehow feel the words when they are said but i dont know whats going on.

Thank you everybody for the reply's if any.

[Indialover]

Namaste iaminsignificant,

why ask for a why? Why not just enjoy? Let it flow.

I once met a priest who said: ‚To get in touch with Hinduism is a grace.‘

The Shiva devotee Vema says in his Satakam - When one is not able to control one's birth or death, is it not foolish to think that in between, one feels himself responsible.

Read about Shiva and get closer to Him
https://shaivam.org
https://www.himalayanacademy.com
(https://www.himalayanacademy.com)
Pranam

[iaminsignificant]

Hi and thank you for the reply

i mean my problem is i have no idea what i am doing i do not know why i am doing it and i certainly do not speak the language, hence my question was meant to mean, what should i do from this point on?


thank you in advance

[Believer]

Namaste,


i do not know if it is sorrow, happiness, or sadness, but i am sure that it is definitely not anger.


All of them!
Sorrow, it took me so long to be where I want to be at
Happiness, I am finally there
Sadness, how little time I have left to enjoy being in this awareness.

And how could there be any anger when you are in union with the Divine?

Please stop thinking, just be in the moment, enjoy the rapture as long as it lasts.
Oh, that ecstasy, it is not for everyone to experience; it could be fleeting.

Pranam.

[Indialover]

Namaste iaminsignificant

Your last post made me speechless.
First - it is an act of courtesy to start a conversation with a salutation.
Second - you got two answers, a spiritual one from Believer, a practical one from me. Both contain one word ‚enjoy‘.
Nobody knows what's just going on in your life and why Shiva came into your life.

I am writing again because I am also a born Christian from Europe and I know how difficult it is to find the way through the vast jungle we call Hinduism. Anyhow - there is no cookbook available for the spiritual path, but you will be guided if you allow a higher force to do so. I found my way through reading that’s why I sent the links to read about Shiva. Himalayan Academy provides all a Westerner needs - dancing with Shiva, living with Shiva, merging with Shiva is the path. I started with the Master Course, that gave me the basics.
https://www.himalayanacademy.com/livespiritually/become-student/mc-options
(https://www.himalayanacademy.com/livespiritually/become-student/mc-options)
If you like Shiva Mantras, repeat them, this is called japa.
http://www.dlshq.org/teachings/japayoga.htm
(http://www.dlshq.org/teachings/japayoga.htm)
With ‚language‘ I think you mean Sanskrit. There is a Satya Sai Group in your country. They are very well versed with singing and proper pronounciation of Sanskrit. Otherwise youtube is helpful – the basic mantras are quite easy. Devotion is more important than perfection.

Pranam

[iaminsignificant]

Hi,

my apologies if you were offended by me, that was not my intent, for the "First - it is an act of courtesy to start a conversation with a salutation." i did not see myself using any of the greeting forms and thought it would be pretentious and naive of me to use any Hindi or Sanskrit greeting since i am neither and would make me feel like some tourist and believe me in some ways disrespectful and it felt just wrong to me personally for that reason, and while my mind wandered trough those thoughts while i posted because i was and still am deep in thoughts, i even forgot to say hi and thx, please everyone accept my sincerest apologies.
As for "Second - you got two answers, a spiritual one from Believer, a practical one from me. Both contain one word ‚enjoy‘." please keep in mind i am new to this forum and although i replied within hrs of the posts, my posts are restricted atm and require to be approved before they will be posted. there was no disrespect meant in any kind of way to anyone and ofc still the same applies. i am reading many things and watching some videos and trying to gather information in all manners that i can and i was not sure if my question was correctly understood that is the reason for the 2nd post reply.

thank you very much for the links and replies and efforts you all made to reply.

thank you


Namaste iaminsignificant

Your last post made me speechless.
First - it is an act of courtesy to start a conversation with a salutation.
Second - you got two answers, a spiritual one from Believer, a practical one from me. Both contain one word ‚enjoy‘.
Nobody knows what's just going on in your life and why Shiva came into your life.

I am writing again because I am also a born Christian from Europe and I know how difficult it is to find the way through the vast jungle we call Hinduism. Anyhow - there is no cookbook available for the spiritual path, but you will be guided if you allow a higher force to do so. I found my way through reading that’s why I sent the links to read about Shiva. Himalayan Academy provides all a Westerner needs - dancing with Shiva, living with Shiva, merging with Shiva is the path. I started with the Master Course, that gave me the basics.
https://www.himalayanacademy.com/livespiritually/become-student/mc-options
(https://www.himalayanacademy.com/livespiritually/become-student/mc-options)
If you like Shiva Mantras, repeat them, this is called japa.
http://www.dlshq.org/teachings/japayoga.htm
(http://www.dlshq.org/teachings/japayoga.htm)
With ‚language‘ I think you mean Sanskrit. There is a Satya Sai Group in your country. They are very well versed with singing and proper pronounciation of Sanskrit. Otherwise youtube is helpful – the basic mantras are quite easy. Devotion is more important than perfection.

Pranam

[satay]

Namaste significant,
It is in fact one of the rules of the forum to reply to posts with a greeting. It does not have to be a hindu or indian greeting but when we start a post with a greeting it sets the tone for the rest of the post for the reader.

Take it easy and as others have said enjoy the flow. This 'rushing’ is somewhat of a foreign thing to many practioners. In the bigger scheme of things the dharma chakra keeps going on and on in a circle and so do we along with it so take your time and be patient.

[iaminsignificant]

Hi and thank you for letting me know.

i would like to sincerely apologize for not having done that in the first place i have edited my previous posts and added greetings to them.
thank you very much for the input and information, i keep reading up and trying to understand what is happening to me and to see what i can do with it or how i can utilize it, yes i do let it "flow" although i have read also about kundalini and i am wondering if my experience is going towards that, and fear that as i read and saw in video explanations on for example youtube that it could go wrong in some cases, so i do wonder also if there is a way to know if it can go wrong or not. im guessing this more likely what i am asking about probably subconsciously in my first post, which i now realize. i would also like to make clear i am not doing this with the intent to"awake" kundalini but as i stated in the first post, i do not know why i feel, one could say extreme magnetic pull, towards shiva.


thank you very much
for all the help and info


Namaste significant,
It is in fact one of the rules of the forum to reply to posts with a greeting. It does not have to be a hindu or indian greeting but when we start a post with a greeting it sets the tone for the rest of the post for the reader.

Take it easy and as others have said enjoy the flow. This 'rushing’ is somewhat of a foreign thing to many practioners. In the bigger scheme of things the dharma chakra keeps going on and on in a circle and so do we along with it so take your time and be patient.

[devotee]

Namaste iis,

First of all, your pseudo name taken on this forum doesn't resonate well with teachings of Hindu Dharma. You are not insignificant ? Who told you that you were insignificant ? If you can recognize yourself, you would know beyond all doubts that you are none but Omniscient, Omnipotent, Omnipresent Shiva, the Brahman ! If you are insignificant, the Truth, the Reality all becomes insignificant ! ... and what is the harm ? The harm is that you would "become" what you think you are. Why ? Because you are Omnipotent and your Will is not insignificant Will ... It is always the Will of God and therefore you must have a thought, a very convincing thought that you are none but Brahman ... none but Shiva Himself ! "Shivoham, Shivoham" (I am Shiva ! I am Shiva !) ... but perhaps, I am going too fast for your stage. So, not any further for now but have a strong and more positive thought about yourself and this is very important. This is a marked difference from what the Abrahimic religions teach you : You are sinner ! You need some one like Jesus to redeem you .... etc. I am not saying that that is all wrong but if you have chosen Hindu Dharma .... take this positive path. Believe me, it is much better and the direct one.

After reading your post I can say that you have found the right path. Shiva is calling you. You are blessed. It is so simple calling Shiva to your heart and mind ! Do you know that Shiva is so childlike innocent and simple ... He melts so easily at your pains ... He is Maheshwara ... the greatest Lord of all ! The whole creation is nothing but great dance of Shiva ! So, consider yourself lucky that Shiva Himself calling you.

Why is it happening to you ? I will tell you. Nothing happens to us without a reason in our life. The society you are born within, the parents that you get, the friends that you meet, the spouse that you meet ... etc. nothing is by chance here. It is all decided by the Laws of Karma and Grace of God/Guru. This life to you has not come out of the blue at your birth and would not vanish in thin air when you die. It is an infinite continuum. You have been taking births after births and meeting deaths after deaths for an Infinite period. So, Shiva's calling you is because of your own Karma. I strongly feel that you might have been an ardent devotee of Shiva in your previous birth. That samskaar (Impressions of the Karma) must have been very strong to pull you again towards the bhakti of Shiva. So, take a jump and merge yourself in Shiva. Become One with Shiva !

OM

[openedeyes]

I have similar experience as I was researching Vishnu but suddenly felt a strong calling from Shiva and i go from there. Not really sure where its leading me but I chant his name often.

[iaminsignificant]

Hi and thank you very much for this encouraging reply.


I also have build up a courage to talk to my parents regarding this, full disclosure: according to them we have Rom/Roma/Sinti descendants and they did not seem surprised much because according to them our ancestors, interestingly both sides, father and mothers, something i have never been told by my parents, like 4 to 7 generations before and apparently all the previous generations as well were as mentioned above Rom/Roma/Sinti and they believed in Shiva but due to European misunderstanding and them believing the Rom/Roma/Sinti to be devil worshipers, they have stopped that because of persecutions and adapted Christianity over time which sadly did not help much but Rom/Roma/Sinti (Degeratory term >Gypsy) <that is the reason why i didnt use it but need to, i realized to make it clear which ppl im talking about. Because they have been hunted down over the millennia and generations all across Europe and been Killed in masses with the aim to eliminate them in World War 2, sorry for the long explanation and didnt mean to sound negative, but wanted to explain where apparently it appears that i come from according to my parents i seem to come from. This is a mystery on itself which appears to have revealed itself to me which makes me feel extremely strange like something has intervened in my life. I would have never on my own ever thought of my ancestors as being Rom/Roma/Sinti. According to my parents that is all that they know about our ancestors. I feel like some sort of beacon has activated in myself. it is in some sort a wonderful feeling in someways liberating and at the same time somehow i feel sad...

thank you very much and appreciate all the input or information anyone is willing to add

P.S.: regarding my name on the forum here, that is how i felt my whole life, but something is changing inside me in the past weeks


Namaste iis,

First of all, your pseudo name taken on this forum doesn't resonate well with teachings of Hindu Dharma. You are not insignificant ? Who told you that you were insignificant ? If you can recognize yourself, you would know beyond all doubts that you are none but Omniscient, Omnipotent, Omnipresent Shiva, the Brahman ! If you are insignificant, the Truth, the Reality all becomes insignificant ! ... and what is the harm ? The harm is that you would "become" what you think you are. Why ? Because you are Omnipotent and your Will is not insignificant Will ... It is always the Will of God and therefore you must have a thought, a very convincing thought that you are none but Brahman ... none but Shiva Himself ! "Shivoham, Shivoham" (I am Shiva ! I am Shiva !) ... but perhaps, I am going too fast for your stage. So, not any further for now but have a strong and more positive thought about yourself and this is very important. This is a marked difference from what the Abrahimic religions teach you : You are sinner ! You need some one like Jesus to redeem you .... etc. I am not saying that that is all wrong but if you have chosen Hindu Dharma .... take this positive path. Believe me, it is much better and the direct one.

After reading your post I can say that you have found the right path. Shiva is calling you. You are blessed. It is so simple calling Shiva to your heart and mind ! Do you know that Shiva is so childlike innocent and simple ... He melts so easily at your pains ... He is Maheshwara ... the greatest Lord of all ! The whole creation is nothing but great dance of Shiva ! So, consider yourself lucky that Shiva Himself calling you.

Why is it happening to you ? I will tell you. Nothing happens to us without a reason in our life. The society you are born within, the parents that you get, the friends that you meet, the spouse that you meet ... etc. nothing is by chance here. It is all decided by the Laws of Karma and Grace of God/Guru. This life to you has not come out of the blue at your birth and would not vanish in thin air when you die. It is an infinite continuum. You have been taking births after births and meeting deaths after deaths for an Infinite period. So, Shiva's calling you is because of your own Karma. I strongly feel that you might have been an ardent devotee of Shiva in your previous birth. That samskaar (Impressions of the Karma) must have been very strong to pull you again towards the bhakti of Shiva. So, take a jump and merge yourself in Shiva. Become One with Shiva !

OM

[devotee]

Namaste Significant,

Go ahead ! Everything will change for better if you just change your thoughts. Our thoughts are very powerful. This is what VedAnta in Hindu Dharma teaches us. There is Shiva in each one of us. The only need is to recognise Him within us. We have highly reputed Shiva Bhaktas on this forum. Eastern Mind and Yajvan can help you.

OM




Hi and thank you very much for this encouraging reply.


I also have build up a courage to talk to my parents regarding this, full disclosure: according to them we have Rom/Roma/Sinti descendants and they did not seem surprised much because according to them our ancestors, interestingly both sides, father and mothers, something i have never been told by my parents, like 4 to 7 generations before and apparently all the previous generations as well were as mentioned above Rom/Roma/Sinti and they believed in Shiva but due to European misunderstanding and them believing the Rom/Roma/Sinti to be devil worshipers, they have stopped that because of persecutions and adapted Christianity over time which sadly did not help much but Rom/Roma/Sinti (Degeratory term >Gypsy) <that is the reason why i didnt use it but need to, i realized to make it clear which ppl im talking about. Because they have been hunted down over the millennia and generations all across Europe and been Killed in masses with the aim to eliminate them in World War 2, sorry for the long explanation and didnt mean to sound negative, but wanted to explain where apparently it appears that i come from according to my parents i seem to come from. This is a mystery on itself which appears to have revealed itself to me which makes me feel extremely strange like something has intervened in my life. I would have never on my own ever thought of my ancestors as being Rom/Roma/Sinti. According to my parents that is all that they know about our ancestors. I feel like some sort of beacon has activated in myself. it is in some sort a wonderful feeling in someways liberating and at the same time somehow i feel sad...

thank you very much and appreciate all the input or information anyone is willing to add

P.S.: regarding my name on the forum here, that is how i felt my whole life, but something is changing inside me in the past weeks

[markandeya 108 dasa]

Namaste Significant,

:hug:

[markandeya 108 dasa]

Namaste Significant Ji,

Ji is a word that gives the higest respect to someone and Namaste means that the divinity in me is recognizing the same divinity to the person or persons being addressed

So dont feel awkward in saying it, ultimately its your choice but it wont be a problem to show some confidence by saying it.

I am a westener by the way and Born in England

I have no problem to use any of the greetings or ways to to communicate, I often use Jai siya Ram, jay sri ram, hare krsna, jai guru datta, harahara mahadeva, om namah shivaya. Even when I go shopping or at any given situation or even stopping strangers in the street to tell them they are divine spark or their essence is divine, its what people need to hear and usually i get good response, if others judge doesnt matter, if we find this path of sanatana dharma it something to be joyful about and thta joy is ever fresh and ever increasing, it picks us up when nothing else can.


TEXT 2
raja-vidya raja-guhyam
pavitram idam uttamam
pratyaksavagamam dharmyam
su-sukham kartum avyayam

SYNONYMS
raja-vidya—the king of education; raja-guhyam—the king of confidential knowledge; pavitram—the purest; idam—this; uttamam—transcendental; pratyaksa—directly experienced; avagamam—understood; dharmyam—the principle of truth; susukham—very happy; kartum—to execute; avyayam—everlasting.

TRANSLATION
This knowledge is the king of education, the most secret of all secrets. It is the purest knowledge, and because it gives direct perception of the Self by realization, it is the perfection of Truth. It is everlasting, and it is joyfully performed.

Be happy, try be positive and enliven yourself, its hard sometimes and I have had lots of adversity against me but why give up the solution to all problems and ills in this world. We are all one family one interconnected being.



Chapter 10: The Opulence of the Absolute


TEXT 9
mac-citta mad-gata-prana
bodhayantah parasparam
kathayantas ca mam nityam
tusyanti ca ramanti ca

SYNONYMS
mat-cittah—minds fully engaged in Me; mat-gata-pranah—lives devoted to the service of Krsna; bodhayantah—enlightening (with divine knowledge); parasparam—among themselves; kathayantah ca—talking also; mam—about Me; nityam—perpetually; tusyanti—are pleased; ca—also; ramanti—enjoy transcendental bliss; ca—also.

TRANSLATION
The thoughts of My pure devotees dwell in Me, their lives are surrendered to Me, and they derive great satisfaction and bliss enlightening one another and conversing about Me.

Life is not easy and has many challenges but this is the solution to see the divinity in ourself and everything around us, and even if we get slight glimpse into this what a blessing it is, it gets us up early in the morning and when we rest at night we look forward to the next day, even if life throws the most severe challenges at us, even if we feel insignificant this spirit cant be dampened


nainaḿ chindanti śastrāṇi
nainaḿ dahati pāvakaḥ
na cainaḿ kledayanty āpo
na śoṣayati mārutaḥ
Translation of Bhagavad Gita 2.23

The divine spark can never be cut to pieces by any weapon, nor burned by fire, nor moistened by water, nor withered by the wind.

We learn to take refuge in this, and then celebrate, even if nobody else joins in with us it doesnt matter.

We have a great chance to free our minds and hearts from all the problems, thats something we should try to grab with both hands and share this as far as possible, it cant contained, it will find a way out and not only liberate us but all around us.

I was part of the Hare Krsna group years ago and still have some contact every now and again and it hurts and pains me when some devotees consider them selves worthless and fallen, its not seeing whats been given to us.

Hare Krsna, hare ram, jai sri radhe shyam

om namah shivaya
jai guru datta

be happy be inspired feel blessed enjoy good sangha, smile everyday even if no body wants to smile with you.

There is enough in this world of competition of people trying to make themselves superior at the cost of others.

Pranam

[markandeya 108 dasa]

Namastre Significant Ji,


Because they have been hunted down over the millennia and generations all across Europe and been Killed in masses with the aim to eliminate them in World War 2, Rom/Roma/Sinti to be devil worshipers, they have stopped that because of persecutions and adapted Christianity over time which sadly did not help much

They are still doing the same hunting today, they just have different methods to destroy naturally spirituality, they may not kill people directly, just dumb people down, get them addicted to sensual world, which then causes all sorts of problems.

There is quite a bit of information around that Roma's originated from India, Pujab region, if you can find out more please share. If something has opened in you then somethings will come in other ways of communication, who knows whats stored in our memory, gene pool and DNA, i am quite sure that when we adopt certain practices some of those memories will become part of intuitive reflection in our deeper Psyche. I have my own intuitions and I have traced part of my Gene pool through meditations back to the Druids.

I have never really read the Bible, not that i am overly averse to it, I have tried a couple of times to look for some esoteric things in there which there are, i just couldn't understand and I just didnt connect but a few things over the times have been pointed out to me, but I dont really waste time any time on it, much better sources which are still in strong living traditions today.

When the Druids falsely converted to Christianity not to save their own lives but to secretly guide the people of the land in ancient ways, this is what is meant by shape shifting. So whatever profound truths are found in Kings James Version of the Bible is part of Original Ancient Britain Cultures Written in Codes by the Druids.

In one sense we can say that we all originate from India or more accurately from the banks of the Ganga when the Earth was one continent. In UK there are still people with knowledge of laylines, its like the earths nervous system and each place has a nadi or junction and thats where they would do practices, something similar or the same as Shakti Peethas, the whole world has them, just like everyone of us has a nervous system and junctions points~ nadi's, how much is really kept in tact and fully known today is questionable, but I am convinced that Druids are alive and well as they knew an ancient art of shapeshifting, this doesnt mean anything silly with the terms that is used today, its more ordinary, it just means adopting a different dress but keeping the same essential nature of their culture. Most of the Old Churches were built of previous sites or places of spiritual practice. This is just one way that Monotheistic Materialists use to wipe out the previous culture and destroy all remaining traces, but its a bit like trying to do genocide, it can damage it but cant totally wipe it out.

In trying to rediscover our ancient~timeless roots and connections especially in places where its been mostly destroyed or damaged beyond all recognition's we sometimes have to use a bit of reverse psychology, if they say something is bad, it means its good, if something is inauspicious it means its auspicious, if something was deemed as a poison it means its medicine. I applied this logic to what we call weeds in present day England, and it turns out that most the weeds are actually medicinal. All lower back problems can be solved by stinging nettles, its only a bit of temporary pain, but the sting stimulates the nervous system and everything just works itself out via that stimulation, they make great teas and can be used in a number of ways, they are also great to use in meditation. one practice is to put them from the spine to neck or just fill them under ones T shirt, it will stimulate Kunadalini. Now I eat weeds without even thinking twice and no harm has come to me so far, in fact my health is very good. I have advised other people to try but they are skeptic and most say no way they will use stnging nettles to cure back problems, they would prefer pain killers, I cant see any form of intelligence in that or to at least not to try, what could be more painful, 10 minutes of strong stimuli which can last 24 hours, after the first ten minutes or so it becomes very nice feeling better then a long life of pain killers and operations.


one day when scrolling I found this English Guy who dedicated most of his life to try and rediscover this ancient knowledge and he now gives courses, the details are in my email somewhere I will try and find it, but its fascinating and I would like to meet him if I get chance.

I visit one Buddhist Monastery near London, and quite near to there is one very large stately home, its now some sort of convention center with a Golf course. A friend of mine found some old records and before the stately home was built it used to be a hermitage where people people from Persia and Indian and the Far east would come to do there practices. But the hermits were killed and a grand Building was built ontop it.

There are many such places. Ancient Britain was known as a refuge and sacred land and hermits from around the world would come and was known as land of refuge for hermits and trees. Trees had a very sacred meaning back in Ancient times, people were known as trees or trees of life, I had some things collected before on another device but I lost it when all when it finally met its fate. All things must pass. But there is some interesting things to share but I never knew if this was the right place and it would take me some time to gather it all back together again, but in a sense there is no need because sanatana dharma is complete and is living culture.

When the the Romans came ( no relations to Roma's) they were defeated twice, and Julia Caesar was sent home packing, in old days dishonour and defeat in battles was considered worse than death, but due to them having no honour, they sent small armies to first kill all the Druids who were the spiritual heads of Ancient Britain and Pagan and Celtic regions, and the country collapsed and the Romans took over and gradually brought in Christianity and enslaved the country. When the Romans took over the Druids which means Seers have some direct connection to Dravidian Culture of Southern Indian, South India has a great traditions of Siddhas and, and they fit into the same social ethos as the Druids, maintained some things in secrecy or undercover.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Siddhar

For some reason, which is more clear to me now I have always had an innate dislike to Christianity, most of my dads family are the same. This must be somewhere in the memory storage. Things can awaken when we practice.

Maybe the same things will come to you and you can help rediscover part of your roma tradition.

My wife is from the Philippines and she has absolutely no idea of her origins, Philippines was taken over by the Spanish Catholics for about 200 years and they were brutal and more or less destoyed the old culture and wiped out almost all the memory in peoples lives of the previous culture, not all and more people are starting to reawaken to it. If you ask most people from the Philippines they will say they were backward natives and the Spanish Christians educated them and they abandoned old superstitions. They have forms of Shiva, there were old Buddhist places who did practices to Golden Maitraya Bodhisattva. They had a similar syllable Alphabet to Sanskrit, not identical, I guess scholars would call it some form of lower prakrit language, I dont agree, Brahma uses Prakriti as a medium, trees, birds and all natural phenomenon, it doesnt need to have classical structure only known for the privileged. Sounds more like class distinction to build up false human hierarchy, not that anything is wrong with classical Sanskrit and the sadhakas that are translating it and teaching dharma, its just that it doesn't have a monopoly over spirituality and other people.

So there is certain important benefits to trace our natural roots. Shiva mantra will help with that immensely.

Om Namah Shivaya