yajvan
15 June 2007, 09:51 PM
Hari Om
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Kaos http://www.hindudharmaforums.com/images/buttons/viewpost.gif (http://www.hindudharmaforums.com/showthread.php?p=12931#post12931)
"Love everyone, everything", is an ideal, a saintly quality. However, while in contact with material nature, there comes a time, when one must drawn the lines.
In the Bhagavad Gita, even Krishna, was a charioteer for His friend Arjuna, in the Battle of Kuruksetra.
Namaste Kaos, I thought it would be good to start with a fresh post.
A very insightful post... Many have a 'feel' of what love is; all know it when they see it. Yet we on HDF have not explored it as a conversation. We as humans are expected to know this love almost as a pre-requisite... as if someone mentions it and people nod Oh , yes this love is a great thing. Yet each nod has a different view point, passion, and experience of this love.
If one watched TV and came to the conclusion based upon the acts we see on TV , I think we would agree that is NOT it.
Many say Love is God. That very well may be, yet it does not help us (me) comprehend the welling-up of emotion, of happiness , that accompanies this feeling.
So, to define this emotion, this feeling I think is to help with the conversation.
I have some views on this, so let me start. It does not even suggest that I am right, but for me, at this level of development, it 'feels' right. So let me give it a go, again not lecturing, just the experiences of life and being attentive to this 'feeling'.
For me, love is the highest level of appreciation one can have for another... I stop at another because love/appreciation as I see it is not limited to a another human. Many love their pets, their cars, etc. This appreciation gets to the feeling I have, but still requires and few more additions.
With this appreciation, one can then adore what one appreciates. So, for me some of the components when one adores+appreciates this thing of love, then there is an intimacy that is desired, a closeness, to know this love intimately.
Now I revert back to the saint that loves all - this can happen when one knows Brahman, the All. Then every-thing is known intimately as an extension of ones SELF. This robust love is then a daily natural thing and not contrived, no pretending to love all... it is just a natural thing.
I can only think of the first mantra of the Rig Ved - it says agnim ile... Agni I adore.
The first words for all the veda's start with the highest level of appreciation of Agni, Divine will. This is because the rishi Madhuchandis has intimate connection with this Divine Will in him, in his consciousness.
Until that time we need to do the best we can with this love of all things, and the help of yama and niyama to assist.
pranams,
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Kaos http://www.hindudharmaforums.com/images/buttons/viewpost.gif (http://www.hindudharmaforums.com/showthread.php?p=12931#post12931)
"Love everyone, everything", is an ideal, a saintly quality. However, while in contact with material nature, there comes a time, when one must drawn the lines.
In the Bhagavad Gita, even Krishna, was a charioteer for His friend Arjuna, in the Battle of Kuruksetra.
Namaste Kaos, I thought it would be good to start with a fresh post.
A very insightful post... Many have a 'feel' of what love is; all know it when they see it. Yet we on HDF have not explored it as a conversation. We as humans are expected to know this love almost as a pre-requisite... as if someone mentions it and people nod Oh , yes this love is a great thing. Yet each nod has a different view point, passion, and experience of this love.
If one watched TV and came to the conclusion based upon the acts we see on TV , I think we would agree that is NOT it.
Many say Love is God. That very well may be, yet it does not help us (me) comprehend the welling-up of emotion, of happiness , that accompanies this feeling.
So, to define this emotion, this feeling I think is to help with the conversation.
I have some views on this, so let me start. It does not even suggest that I am right, but for me, at this level of development, it 'feels' right. So let me give it a go, again not lecturing, just the experiences of life and being attentive to this 'feeling'.
For me, love is the highest level of appreciation one can have for another... I stop at another because love/appreciation as I see it is not limited to a another human. Many love their pets, their cars, etc. This appreciation gets to the feeling I have, but still requires and few more additions.
With this appreciation, one can then adore what one appreciates. So, for me some of the components when one adores+appreciates this thing of love, then there is an intimacy that is desired, a closeness, to know this love intimately.
Now I revert back to the saint that loves all - this can happen when one knows Brahman, the All. Then every-thing is known intimately as an extension of ones SELF. This robust love is then a daily natural thing and not contrived, no pretending to love all... it is just a natural thing.
I can only think of the first mantra of the Rig Ved - it says agnim ile... Agni I adore.
The first words for all the veda's start with the highest level of appreciation of Agni, Divine will. This is because the rishi Madhuchandis has intimate connection with this Divine Will in him, in his consciousness.
Until that time we need to do the best we can with this love of all things, and the help of yama and niyama to assist.
pranams,