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Mben
27 June 2007, 05:01 PM
Namaste (hi)

Can you help please, to clear some things and put them in some connection, order?

...Hinduism, Hare-Krishna, Iskcon, Gaudya, Gaudya Vaishnava, Shivaits, mimamsa, impersonalists, supreme personal aspect of God (supreme personality of Godhead), vedanta, advaita, dvaita, shruti,...

regards, M.

Mben
10 July 2007, 06:16 PM
I would like to add - samkhya Philosophy - to this list,...

So, how to make some order out of these words?
Like some ...mind-mapping...

yajvan
10 July 2007, 07:37 PM
Hari Om
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Namaste (hi)

Can you help please, to clear some things and put them in some connection, order?

...Hinduism, Hare-Krishna, Iskcon, Gaudya, Gaudya Vaishnava, Shivaits, mimamsa, impersonalists, supreme personal aspect of God (supreme personality of Godhead), vedanta, advaita, dvaita, shruti,...

Hello and Namsakar Mben,
you have brought multiple ingredients ... one does not know if we're baking a cake with these, or building a tractor.

What is your question? A common sutra (stitch) to all of them is they are all subject matter of Sanatana Dharma. Yet if I stitched them together I am not certain of its outcome and if I would get something worthy of the effort.

So, to help you, there needs to be better definition of what your needs are, where you are at today and what are you looking for. What have you read? What is your understanding of Sanatana Dharma? Have you completed at tour of HDF and all the posts? Have you visited the Definitions Folder? Much can be had with some reading on this site to formulate an inquiry.


I think your 5 fiends that can assist you are Who , What , Where , When and How. ( not necessarily in that order).


dhanyavadah

Znanna
10 July 2007, 08:39 PM
I think your 5 fiends that can assist you are Who , What , Where , When and How. ( not necessarily in that order).

LOL

"Fiends" indeed!



ZN

Mben
11 July 2007, 08:56 AM
Well, what i'm looking for -is- a big picture.
Big picture of what? I don't know even that- is it of Hinduism, or Sanatana Dharma.



What i would like to know first is- what are original "schools", philosophies... maybe some list of them.

Perhaps i put too many concepts with words that i wrote. How to start to make a picture of what SD/hinduism is?




By using these:

* Samkhya
* Vedanta
o Advaita
o Dvaita
o Visishtadvaita
o Dvaitadvaita
o Shuddhadvaita
o Achintya Bheda Abheda
* Mimamsa
* Nyaya
* Vaisheshika
* Yoga
o Jnana Yoga
o Karma Yoga
o Bhakti Yoga
o Raja Yoga
o Hatha Yoga

...and ... Hare-Krishna, Iskcon, Gaudya, Gaudya Vaishnava, Shivaits, Shakta, Swaminarayan, Veerashaivas/ Lingayats, Hindu (Indian and Tamil), Smartaism,

satay
11 July 2007, 10:42 AM
namaskar,

perhaps the following link would help you Mben.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Hinduism

Mben
11 July 2007, 12:09 PM
By using these:

* Samkhya
* Vedanta
o Advaita
o Dvaita
o Visishtadvaita
o Dvaitadvaita
o Shuddhadvaita
o Achintya Bheda Abheda
* Mimamsa
* Nyaya
* Vaisheshika
* Yoga
o Jnana Yoga
o Karma Yoga
o Bhakti Yoga
o Raja Yoga
o Hatha Yoga

...and ... Hare-Krishna, Iskcon, Gaudya, Gaudya Vaishnava, Shivaits, Shakta, Swaminarayan, Veerashaivas/ Lingayats, Hindu (Indian and Tamil), Smartaism,
Hinduism has no central doctrinal authority and many practising Hindus do not claim to belong to any particular denomination.[86] (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Hinduism#_note-51) However, academics categorize contemporary Hinduism into four major denominations: Vaishnavism (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Vaishnavism), Shaivism (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Shaivism), Shaktism (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Shaktism) and Smartism (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Smartism). The denominations differ primarily in the God worshipped as the Supreme One and in the traditions that accompany worship of that God.Into these "major denominations" goes (are connected): Hare-Krishna, Iskcon, Gaudya Vaishnava, Shivaits, Shakta, Smartaism

question: Is this correct? and
How does Vaishnavism (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Vaishnavism), Shaivism (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Shaivism), Shaktism (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Shaktism) and Smartism (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Smartism) goes with 6 major Astika's?

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I'm left with: Gaudya, Swaminarayan, Veerashaivas/ Lingayats, Hindu (Indian and Tamil).. Where to put these?

Agnideva
11 July 2007, 01:32 PM
Namaste Mben,

Can you help please, to clear some things and put them in some connection, order?
...Hinduism, Hare-Krishna, Iskcon, Gaudya, Gaudya Vaishnava, Shivaits, mimamsa, impersonalists, supreme personal aspect of God (supreme personality of Godhead), vedanta, advaita, dvaita, shruti,...
Hinduism or Sanatana Dharma is the overall term for the systems of beliefs and practices that are derived from the Vedas and Agamas. All the systems within have certain central beliefs, doctrines and practices in common. None of them is based around any central institution or founder.

Four of the major branches of Sanatana Dharma are Shaivism, Vaishnavism, Shaktism and Smartaism. Each branch sees God in its own way and has specific doctrines of its own. Each branch is further divided into multiple sects or denominations.

Vaishnavism is the branch of Hinduism that sees God through the form of Vishnu/Narayana or Krishna. One of Vaishnavism’s branches is Gaudiya Vaishnavism, which originated in eastern India. The western expression of Gaudiya Vaishnavism is called ISKCON or Hare Krishna.

Now, the vast body of Vedic literature resulted in six schools of philosophy in ancient times. The six schools are called Astika, whereas six schools non-vedic philosophies (four schools of Buddhism, Jainism, and Carvaka) are called Nastika. Among the six Astika schools are: Nyaya, Vaisheshika, Samkhya, Yoga, Purva Mimamsa and Uttara Mimamsa. The Uttara Mimamsa is also called the Vedanta school.

The Vedanta school itself has multiple interpretations … there is monistic (Advaita), dualistic (dvaita), qualified non-dualism (vishistadvaita), etc. Historically, the different groups have not agreed with one another. “Impersonalist” is a term used by some to refer to the monistic Vedantins, in somewhat of a derogatory manner.

Shruti means “that which is heard” and is generally a term applied to the Vedas, the primary texts. Some groups also apply the term shruti to the Agamas specific to that branch. This is in contrast with the term Smriti, which means “that which is remembered” and is applied to all bodies of secondary texts.

I hope that is of some help.

OM Shanti,
A.