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yajvan
06 July 2007, 12:32 PM
Hari Om
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Arvind Sivaraman http://www.hindudharmaforums.com/images/buttons/viewpost.gif (http://www.hindudharmaforums.com/showthread.php?p=13202#post13202)
Om Shirdi Sai Ram.
Namaste Yajvan.

Thank you for the correction and clarity provided.
If you could throw some light on Hora Lagna and Ghati Lagna it would be nice.

Yes, lets take a look at these special lagnas ( Lagnam = 'attached to') ...here's a start.
We will use Mahatma Gandhi's data below as a practical example , after laying out the pariculars.

Ghati Lagna moves at at 30 degrees per ghati. 1 ghati - 1/60th of the day. 1/60th = .016667 X 24 hours = 0.40 hrs = .40 X 60 minutes = 24 minutes= in ghati. So every 24 minutes , starting at sun rise, the GL ghatika lagna moves 30 degrees. This is how you calculate this GL.
That is, many ghati's have transpired from sunrise, till the time the native was born? Once you know this, you now khow many degrees the GL has advanced from the location of the sun at sunrise.

Hora Lagna moves at 30 degrees per hour or 1/2 degree per minute.
So from sunrise, HL is in the same sign and same degree as the sun. 1 hr/later it has advanced 30 degrees. So if the sun's rising is 1 degree Cancer, HL = 1 degree Cancer. One hour later HL would be found 1 degree Leo.

The Ascendant or Lagna shows the self of the individual.
The HL Shows the individual from the position of wealth/prosperity. Kinda like the 2nd house, yes? Wealth creation from projects or actions could be seen.

The Ghatika Lagna shows one from the point of power and authority, and perhaps fame. What house would you think this would represent? So, for power, maybe the power of a politician, or general, or official and what will happen or the authority of the individual? Is it expanding or contracting or in jeopardy?

Sri Lagna - another special Lagna. The calculation is a bit more involved and will be left for another time; As you would expect it involves the Moon. Sri shows overall prosperity.

Now, what do you consider sunrise? this is always a debate.
This influnces Ghati and Hora Langa calcuations. And insuring one has the right birth time, yes ( called Ishtam 'or desired for' as one is brought back to this loka for the fulfillment of some remaining desires, yes?)

First rays of the sun?
The upper limb of the sun being seen?
1/2 of the sun being visible at sun rise? there is a 1 min 10 sec difference in time between the upper limb and the center of the sun ( 1/2 the sun's diameter).I will leave this to you and your studies.


Using Mahatma Gandhi's Chart information (see below)
1. Note the sunrise time and the location of the SUN.
2. Note Ghandhi's birth time Ishtam = 7:45 (AM)
3. Note that about ~ 1 hr has passed from sunrise to his birth
4. Note the Hora Lagna postion ( HL) - its ~ 30degrees advanced from
the Sun's postion...why? 1 hr has elapsed, as HL moves at 30 degrees
per hour.
5. note how far the GL has advanced? roughly 2.5 ghatika's [ 60 mins from sunrise to birth time divided by 24 minutes = 2.5 ghatika's] have elasped since sunries, and there for 2.5 X 30 degrees = 75 degees advances from the sun's postion in virgo. This brings the GL to Sagittarious by just 0 degress -54 minutes 25 seconds.
6. Sri Langa for another time.

Natal Chart
Date: October 2, 1869
Time: 7:45:00
Time Zone: 5:30:00 (East of GMT)
Place: 69 E 49' 00", 21 N 37' 00"
Tithi: Krishna Ekadasi (Ma) (9.45% left)
Vedic Weekday: Sunday (Su)
Nakshatra: Aasresha (Me) (16.86% left)
Yoga: Sadhya (Ve) (65.21% left)
Karana: Balava (Mo) (18.89% left)
Hora Lord: Sun (5 min sign: Cn)
Mahakala Hora: Sun (5 min sign: Ge)
Kaala Lord: Sun (Mahakala: Mars)
Sunrise: 6:45:45
Sunset: 18:34:07
Body-----Longitude
Lagna 0 Li 33' 25.03"
Sun - 16 Vi 53' 09.74"
Moon - 27 Cn 45' 09.03"
Mars - 26 Li 21' 53.57"
Mercury - 11 Li 43' 48.87"
Jupiter (R) - 28 Ar 08'
Venus - 24 Li 23' 31.02"
Saturn - 20 Sc 19' 51.16"
Rahu - 12 Cn 08' 51.10"
Ketu 12 Cp 08' 51.10"
Hora Lagna 16 Li 28' 12.48"
Ghati Lagna 0 Sg 54' 25.51"
Sree Lagna 29 Cn 52' 28.94"


data eka räma bhikäri sari duniyä - the giver is the one Rama, the world is a beggar.

pranams,

Arvind Sivaraman
07 July 2007, 01:12 AM
Hari Om
~~~~~~

Quote:
Originally Posted by Arvind Sivaraman http://www.hindudharmaforums.com/images/buttons/viewpost.gif (http://www.hindudharmaforums.com/showthread.php?p=13202#post13202)
Om Shirdi Sai Ram.
Namaste Yajvan.

Thank you for the correction and clarity provided.
If you could throw some light on Hora Lagna and Ghati Lagna it would be nice.

Yes, lets take a look at these special lagnas ( Lagnam = 'attached to') ...here's a start.
We will use Mahatma Gandhi's data below as a practical example , after laying out the pariculars.

Ghati Lagna moves at at 30 degrees per ghati. 1 ghati - 1/60th of the day. 1/60th = .016667 X 24 hours = 0.40 hrs = .40 X 60 minutes = 24 minutes= in ghati. So every 24 minutes , starting at sun rise, the GL ghatika lagna moves 30 degrees. This is how you calculate this GL.
That is, many ghati's have transpired from sunrise, till the time the native was born? Once you know this, you now khow many degrees the GL has advanced from the location of the sun at sunrise.

Hora Lagna moves at 30 degrees hour or 1/2 degree per minute.
So from sunrise, HL is in the same sign and same degree as the sun. 1 hr/later it has advanced 30 degrees. So if the sun's rising is 1 degree Cancer, HL = 1 degree Cancer. One hour later HL would be found 1 degree Leo.

The Ascendant or Lagna shows the self of the individual.
The HL Shows the individual from the position of wealth/prosperity. Kinda like the 2nd house, yes? Wealth creation from projects or actions could be seen.

The Ghatika Lagna shows one from the point of power and authority, and perhaps fame. What house would you think this would represent? So, for power, maybe the power of a politician, or general, or official and what will happen or the authority of the individual? Is it expanding or contracting or in jeopardy?

Sri Lagna - another special Lagna. The calculation is a bit more involved and will be left for another time; As you would expect it involves the Moon. Sri shows overall prosperity.

Now, what do you consider sunrise? this is always a debate.
This influnces Ghati and Hora Langa calcuations. And insuring one has the right birth time, yes ( called Ishtam 'or desired for' as one is brought back to this loka for the fulfillment of some remaining desires, yes?)

First rays of the sun?
The upper limb of the sun being seen?
1/2 of the sun being visible at sun rise? there is a 1 min 10 sec difference in time between the upper limb and the center of the sun ( 1/2 the sun's diameter).I will leave this to you and your studies.


Using Mahatma Gandhi's Chart information (see below)
1. Note the sunrise time and the location of the SUN.
2. Note Ghandhi's birth time Ishtam = 7:45 (AM)
3. Note that about ~ 1 hr has passed from sunrise to his birth
4. Note the Hora Lagna postion ( HL) - its ~ 30degrees advanced from
the Sun's postion...why? 1 hr has elapsed, as HL moves at 30 degrees
per hour.
5. note how far the GL has advanced? roughly 2.5 ghatika's [ 60 mins from sunrise to birth time divided by 24 minutes = 2.5 ghatika's] have elasped since sunries, and there for 2.5 X 30 degrees = 75 degees advances from the sun's postion in virgo. This brings the GL to Sagittarious by just 0 degress -54 minutes 25 seconds.
6. Sri Langa for another time.

Natal Chart
Date: October 2, 1869
Time: 7:45:00
Time Zone: 5:30:00 (East of GMT)
Place: 69 E 49' 00", 21 N 37' 00"
Tithi: Krishna Ekadasi (Ma) (9.45% left)
Vedic Weekday: Sunday (Su)
Nakshatra: Aasresha (Me) (16.86% left)
Yoga: Sadhya (Ve) (65.21% left)
Karana: Balava (Mo) (18.89% left)
Hora Lord: Sun (5 min sign: Cn)
Mahakala Hora: Sun (5 min sign: Ge)
Kaala Lord: Sun (Mahakala: Mars)
Sunrise: 6:45:45
Sunset: 18:34:07
Body-----Longitude
Lagna 0 Li 33' 25.03"
Sun - 16 Vi 53' 09.74"
Moon - 27 Cn 45' 09.03"
Mars - 26 Li 21' 53.57"
Mercury - 11 Li 43' 48.87"
Jupiter (R) - 28 Ar 08'
Venus - 24 Li 23' 31.02"
Saturn - 20 Sc 19' 51.16"
Rahu - 12 Cn 08' 51.10"
Ketu 12 Cp 08' 51.10"
Hora Lagna 16 Li 28' 12.48"
Ghati Lagna 0 Sg 54' 25.51"
Sree Lagna 29 Cn 52' 28.94"


data eka räma bhikäri sari duniyä - the giver is the one Rama, the world is a beggar.

pranams,

Om Shirdi Sai Ram.
Namaste Yajvan.
Thank you for the answer provided.It has added to my knowledge.
If you could throw some light on what is Sree Lagna and how to arrive at it, it would be good.Hope i am not taxing you.

Arvind Sivaraman
07 July 2007, 01:15 AM
Hari Om
~~~~~~

Quote:
Originally Posted by Arvind Sivaraman http://www.hindudharmaforums.com/images/buttons/viewpost.gif (http://www.hindudharmaforums.com/showthread.php?p=13202#post13202)
Om Shirdi Sai Ram.
Namaste Yajvan.

Thank you for the correction and clarity provided.
If you could throw some light on Hora Lagna and Ghati Lagna it would be nice.

Yes, lets take a look at these special lagnas ( Lagnam = 'attached to') ...here's a start.
We will use Mahatma Gandhi's data below as a practical example , after laying out the pariculars.

Ghati Lagna moves at at 30 degrees per ghati. 1 ghati - 1/60th of the day. 1/60th = .016667 X 24 hours = 0.40 hrs = .40 X 60 minutes = 24 minutes= in ghati. So every 24 minutes , starting at sun rise, the GL ghatika lagna moves 30 degrees. This is how you calculate this GL.
That is, many ghati's have transpired from sunrise, till the time the native was born? Once you know this, you now khow many degrees the GL has advanced from the location of the sun at sunrise.

Hora Lagna moves at 30 degrees hour or 1/2 degree per minute.
So from sunrise, HL is in the same sign and same degree as the sun. 1 hr/later it has advanced 30 degrees. So if the sun's rising is 1 degree Cancer, HL = 1 degree Cancer. One hour later HL would be found 1 degree Leo.

The Ascendant or Lagna shows the self of the individual.
The HL Shows the individual from the position of wealth/prosperity. Kinda like the 2nd house, yes? Wealth creation from projects or actions could be seen.

The Ghatika Lagna shows one from the point of power and authority, and perhaps fame. What house would you think this would represent? So, for power, maybe the power of a politician, or general, or official and what will happen or the authority of the individual? Is it expanding or contracting or in jeopardy?

Sri Lagna - another special Lagna. The calculation is a bit more involved and will be left for another time; As you would expect it involves the Moon. Sri shows overall prosperity.

Now, what do you consider sunrise? this is always a debate.
This influnces Ghati and Hora Langa calcuations. And insuring one has the right birth time, yes ( called Ishtam 'or desired for' as one is brought back to this loka for the fulfillment of some remaining desires, yes?)

First rays of the sun?
The upper limb of the sun being seen?
1/2 of the sun being visible at sun rise? there is a 1 min 10 sec difference in time between the upper limb and the center of the sun ( 1/2 the sun's diameter).I will leave this to you and your studies.


Using Mahatma Gandhi's Chart information (see below)
1. Note the sunrise time and the location of the SUN.
2. Note Ghandhi's birth time Ishtam = 7:45 (AM)
3. Note that about ~ 1 hr has passed from sunrise to his birth
4. Note the Hora Lagna postion ( HL) - its ~ 30degrees advanced from
the Sun's postion...why? 1 hr has elapsed, as HL moves at 30 degrees
per hour.
5. note how far the GL has advanced? roughly 2.5 ghatika's [ 60 mins from sunrise to birth time divided by 24 minutes = 2.5 ghatika's] have elasped since sunries, and there for 2.5 X 30 degrees = 75 degees advances from the sun's postion in virgo. This brings the GL to Sagittarious by just 0 degress -54 minutes 25 seconds.
6. Sri Langa for another time.

Natal Chart
Date: October 2, 1869
Time: 7:45:00
Time Zone: 5:30:00 (East of GMT)
Place: 69 E 49' 00", 21 N 37' 00"
Tithi: Krishna Ekadasi (Ma) (9.45% left)
Vedic Weekday: Sunday (Su)
Nakshatra: Aasresha (Me) (16.86% left)
Yoga: Sadhya (Ve) (65.21% left)
Karana: Balava (Mo) (18.89% left)
Hora Lord: Sun (5 min sign: Cn)
Mahakala Hora: Sun (5 min sign: Ge)
Kaala Lord: Sun (Mahakala: Mars)
Sunrise: 6:45:45
Sunset: 18:34:07
Body-----Longitude
Lagna 0 Li 33' 25.03"
Sun - 16 Vi 53' 09.74"
Moon - 27 Cn 45' 09.03"
Mars - 26 Li 21' 53.57"
Mercury - 11 Li 43' 48.87"
Jupiter (R) - 28 Ar 08'
Venus - 24 Li 23' 31.02"
Saturn - 20 Sc 19' 51.16"
Rahu - 12 Cn 08' 51.10"
Ketu 12 Cp 08' 51.10"
Hora Lagna 16 Li 28' 12.48"
Ghati Lagna 0 Sg 54' 25.51"
Sree Lagna 29 Cn 52' 28.94"


data eka räma bhikäri sari duniyä - the giver is the one Rama, the world is a beggar.

pranams,

Om Shirdi Sai Ram.
Namaste Yajvan.
I missed out on one point.
After arriving at the Ghati Lagna , is the Ghati Lagna Lord important or the YogaKaraka for the Ghati Lagna important.
Or is the placement of any Planet (if any)in the Ghati Lagna important.
Please reply.

yajvan
07 July 2007, 03:20 PM
Hari Om
~~~~~


Om Shirdi Sai Ram.
Namaste Yajvan.
I missed out on one point.
After arriving at the Ghati Lagna , is the Ghati Lagna Lord important or the YogaKaraka for the Ghati Lagna important.
Or is the placement of any Planet (if any)in the Ghati Lagna important.
Please reply.
Namaste Arvind,
What is of import with Lagna + Hora Lagna + Ghatika Lagna is yogada's.
I will explain in a new post.

pranams,

Arvind Sivaraman
09 July 2007, 04:24 AM
Hari Om
~~~~~


Namaste Arvind,
What is of import with Lagna + Hora Lagna + Ghatika Lagna is yogada's.
I will explain in a new post.

pranams,

Om Shirdi Sai Ram.
Namaste Yajvan.
Eagerly expecting your post on Yogada's.

yajvan
09 July 2007, 08:34 AM
Hari Om
~~~~~

Om Shirdi Sai Ram.
Namaste Yajvan.
Eagerly expecting your post on Yogada's.


Namaste Arvind,
Yogada's are posted: http://www.hindudharmaforums.com/showthread.php?t=1675





pranams,

Arvind Sivaraman
19 July 2007, 04:08 AM
Hari Om
~~~~~



Namaste Arvind,
Yogada's are posted: http://www.hindudharmaforums.com/showthread.php?t=1675

pranams,

Om Shirdi Sai Ram.
Namaste Yajvan.

What if the Yogada or Maha Yogada is different for a Rasi Chart and Navamsa Chart.How do we interpret it?Which Yogada should we take into consideration?The Rasi Yogada or Navamsa Yogada?Kindly reply.