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yajvan
24 July 2007, 02:21 PM
Hari Om
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Namaste,

This post is a continuation of Nakshastra's, posted on HDF :http://www.hindudharmaforums.com/showthread.php?t=1736 (http://www.hindudharmaforums.com/showthread.php?t=1736)

Sarabhanga's contributions are of great value to this subject. Please consider reading these posts: http://www.hindudharmaforums.com/showthread.php?t=1746 (http://www.hindudharmaforums.com/showthread.php?t=1746) and http://www.hindudharmaforums.com/showpost.php?p=13845&postcount=2 (http://www.hindudharmaforums.com/showpost.php?p=13845&postcount=2)


If you wish to find your birth nakshatra, this site will assist you as long as you know your birth information:
http://www.prokerala.com/astrology/nakshatra-finder/index.php?Day=17&Month=7&Year=1952&Time=4&country=-6&type=1&ZHour=0&ZMin=6&LonDeg=&LonMin=


We continue the conversation…

Nakshatra or these moon constellations , some call asterisms, are owned by the moon. The moon, Chandra is the Karaka of the mind, emotions. Hence, it is important to note this. Vedic Jyotish uses Nakshatra's to explain more subtle things , the impulses of the mind , that directs our actions. We have a thought, some thoughts we act on some we do not. So these Nakshatra are tightly coupled with our mind, our actions, our direction in life.

It is key to remember that at the core of one's janma kundali (ones birth chart) the key drivers are the sun , the moon, and the Lagna. These , my teacher calls the tripod of life. The Luminaries are responsible for life as we know it. And the Lagna is the life-principle that arrives in you , in your 'ascending' to life. The Sun is the Natural Atmakaraka ,the King in ones chart, as Parashara muni points out.

The moon then is the Minister, the one the King depends on. This Minister is called the Amatyakaraka. We can see the role the moon plays, and how important the Nakshatra's are to ones life - the relationship of the mind, the body and all of creation. We will add more on this matter along the way.

This 28th Nakshatra - What is this?
We have discussed briefly that there are 27 Nakshatra based upon 27 days for the moon to transit the sidereal zodiac (Bha Chakra) if we take 360 degrees and divide it by 27 we arrive at 13° 20'. So each Nakshatra = 13° 20' of an arc.

Hold that thought because if we time the moon, it really takes 27.3229 days to complete one 360° trip. That is 27 days 7 3/4 hours. The Nakshatra is made of this = 13° 20' of an arc, yet we have an extra 7 3/4 hours to account for. This is done by the 28th Nakshatra called Abhijit.

Where does this 28th Nakshatra reside? It's in Uttarasadha Nakshatra. And where is that? It straddles Sagittarius and Capricorn. Abhijit takes up 4°14'13" of an arc in this Nakshatra. How would you see it? It is the famous star Vega.

What is it's significance here? Uttarashadha is of great import. The owners of this Nakshatra and space is the Vishadevas. It primary attribute is sattvic, and secondary is that of Moksha . It is the place in akasha, in space, that our whole solar system is moving to. Like that, we as human beings are moving from the individual to the universal. So is the impulses of the VisvaDeva's, who bring Universal qualities to the mind of beings.

Placing Abhijit there symbolizes the goal and purpose of the unfoldment of the human being. What would be the influence you would experience from this Nakshatra - both Abhijit and Uttarashadha? The urge to merge! To go from the individual to the Universal. There are the influences of Jupiter ( Guru) here as he owns the sign of Sagittarius. The influence may be of mantra shastra, japa, worship ( as Sun owns this 21st Nakshatra).

One will find lots of adjustments here. For now lets say there's lots of activities and influences from the Vishvadeva's, Sun, owner of the Nakshatra, Jupiter owner of the sign, and now enter Sani ( Saturn) owner of Capricorn where 3/4th's of this Nakshatra resides. Usually, Nakshatra's are not this complex, yet when we deal with where the whole solar system and us ( body, mind and spirit) are heading, it tends to increase the complexity of the field in question.

Keep one thing in mind - this direction of the Abhijit and Uttarashadha, is the unfoldment of the natives core being, it universality. It is of great interest to me that Ketu, the mokshakaraka, is considered at home in Sagittarius, and owns the nakshatra of Moola , the 19th Nakshatra. Being of moksha, he is right a home with the other impulses of universality.


pranams,

sarabhanga
29 July 2007, 08:19 PM
Namaste Yajvan,

In reference to Abhjit and Vega, you have mentioned that it is the place in space to which our whole solar system is moving.

Is this true in a literal physical sense, or is there more esoteric reasoning behind the statement?

Traditionally, there are four cardinal stars ruling the quarters of the night sky:

Ursa major rules in the north,
Sirius rules in the east,
alpha Scorpii rules in the south, and
alpha Lyrae (Vega) rules in the west.

Following the Sun’s course, all Adityas rise in the east and move westwards through the sky, finally setting in the west. And so, it could be said that all true souls are heading for Vega, the western star. Indeed, all things “go west” in the end!

yajvan
29 July 2007, 09:38 PM
Hari Om
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Namaste Yajvan,

In reference to Abhjit and Vega, you have mentioned that it is the place in space to which our whole solar system is moving.

Is this true in a literal physical sense, or is there more esoteric reasoning behind the statement? Traditionally, there are four cardinal stars ruling the quarters of the night sky:

Ursa major rules in the north,
Sirius rules in the east,
alpha Scorpii rules in the south, and
alpha Lyrae (Vega) rules in the west.

Following the Sun’s course, all Adityas rise in the east and move westwards through the sky, finally setting in the west. And so, it could be said that all true souls are heading for Vega, the western star. Indeed, all things “go west” in the end!

Namaste sarabhanga,
A good question. This is a discussion of nabhi ( navels or centers).... let me answer your question and we can expand as needed.

Our solar system is tilted at ~ 62° to the galatic plane. We reside in the 3rd arm of our most wonderful galaxy, the Milky Way , which is about 100,000 light years (+/-) across it's diameter and is home to 200 to 400 billion other suns.

We are on a ride to that nabhi, physically located in the Sagittarius/Capricorn address as the galaxy rotates. This information is from both Jyotish and from astrophysics.

Now I think the next logical question is one of relationship and perspective to that location in the sky. All things are in motion, all moving, so it will prove interesting as astrophysicists get better data... are we still on course? As of about 1 year ago , this was the best information they had for current course and speed. This is of key import, as the astrophysicsts believe the center of the galaxy is also in the direction of Sagittarius - their guess its 28,000 light years from here. So its a conversation of relative perspective and what we 'see' out our viewing window as to our relative motion in the sky.

From a spiritual perspective, your observation is spot on, as that is our unfoldment , from the indiviual to the universal, as represented by Abhijit.


pranams,

sarabhanga
31 July 2007, 07:28 PM
Namaste Yajvan,

In our region of the galaxy, the solar system is moving between neighbouring stars (at about 20 km/sec) towards Lambda Herculis. And our local area is moving around the galactic center at about 250 km/sec and with an orbital period of about 220,000,000 years, and in the approximate direction of Deneb in the Cygnus constellation.

The constellations of Lyra, Herculis, and Cygnus (our direction of travel), and the galactic center (between Saggitarius and Scorpius) are clearly shown in the following image. All are aligned within about 40 degrees of the zodiac, but the direction of spin and the central hub of the galaxy are separated by almost 90 degrees.

http://www.atlasoftheuniverse.com/wgalchart.gif

willie
31 July 2007, 08:51 PM
People have been looking at the star , mainly because they were there . And all kinds of strange ideas has sprung up because of this and most of it has amounted to nothing.

Now that hubble is out there we have learned more about the stars than ever before and we have learned that a lot of widely held belief was wrong.

yajvan
31 July 2007, 08:58 PM
Hari Om
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Namaste Yajvan,

In our region of the galaxy, the solar system is moving between neighbouring stars (at about 20 km/sec) towards Lambda Herculis. And our local area is moving around the galactic center at about 250 km/sec and with an orbital period of about 220,000,000 years, and in the approximate direction of Deneb in the Cygnus constellation.

The constellations of Lyra, Herculis, and Cygnus (our direction of travel), and the galactic center (between Saggitarius and Scorpius) are clearly shown in the following image. All are aligned within about 40 degrees of the zodiac, but the direction of spin and the central hub of the galaxy are separated by almost 90 degrees.

Namaste Sarabhanga,
very helpful... The 'center' as shown seems to match what Jyotish and NASA suggest is center or core. Yet can you advise ? is the map helio-centric or geo-centric or galactic-centric? I want to insure I get my bearings right. It assists us in dweepa or circular paths we are on. We then can see the ayana or direction. I am guessing this map rotates counter-clockwise. That is , left moving to right; or from a top view counter-clockwise.

Also I agree with the rotation time, it's estimated to be between 200 to 250 million years. Now that depends how close or away one's solar system is to the center of the galaxy. ANd just last night on televison, we are not consider an avg galaxy, but one of the bigger ones. They also sugested we're in the process of digesting another galaxy this is on top of us... now, I am not sure what is top or bottom!

So for the nakshatra Uttarshadha [some write Uttara -Ashadha] we have discussed it resides 266°-40' to 280° in the zodiac putting in Sagittarius, and the center. So that info can be confirmed as useful.

Vega - from our other post still makes sense as it relates to the precession of the axis our earth.... oh by the way, the last time our zodiac lined up , that is, Jyotish and Western astrology , was 285 AD. From there we have been moving way at the seconds of an arc discussed on the "Where are we going? " post : http://www.hindudharmaforums.com/showpost.php?p=14259&postcount=3 . And I have seen another suggestion today on the seconds per year we are moving ( 50.30 seconds of an arc); This is by another Jyotish; many follow Lahiri's guidance on this matter.

I think we have a pretty good handle on this... thank you for the map and your assessments, research, and discussion points. All valuable.

pranams,

sarabhanga
01 August 2007, 07:05 AM
Namaste Yajvan,

The map (linked from http://www.atlasoftheuniverse.com) is plotted in galactic coordinates (i.e. galacto-centric) showing major stars of our neighbourhood (mostly within 1,000 light-years) over the shaded galactic disk. And the other 'galaxy' that we are 'digesting' is perhaps shown as the shaded blob between Dorado and Mensa.