mrigasira 2nd pada boy and dhanishta 4th pada girl

[shanthanu_sarma]

Is the marriage do-able? Pls respond.

[yajvan]

Hari Om
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Is the marriage do-able? Pls respond.


Namaste shanthanu_sarma,
to make a recommendation based upon this little knowledge is to ask a doctor to pronounce a patient dead due to a cut finger.

If this is of great import to you , seek a qualified Jyotisha, that will balaunce the blessings in one chart with the challanges.
The 1/9th divisional chart must be looked at ( Navamsa) as the Jama Kundalai.

pranams,

[sm78]

Hari Om
~~~~~



Namaste shanthanu_sarma,
to make a recommendation based upon this little knowledge is to ask a doctor to pronounce a patient dead due to a cut finger.

If this is of great import to you , seek a qualified Jyotisha, that will balaunce the blessings in one chart with the challanges.
The 1/9th divisional chart must be looked at ( Navamsa) as the Jama Kundalai.

pranams,

Namaste Yajvan,

Is it however useful to get into further details of the 2 charts when Asta Kuta/score using the moon nakshatras is poor ??

If asta kuta gives point 10 out of 36 (I am not talking about the present case ~ i don't have the Kuta table with me now, however Mrig is Deva while dhanistha is Rakshasha), should one at all bother about further details...as moon nakshatra is a indicator of mental temperament...if that doesn't match, marriage cannot be auspicious ??

What's your opinion regarding this ?

[yajvan]

Hari Om
~~~~~

Namaste Yajvan,

Is it however useful to get into further details of the 2 charts when Asta Kuta/score using the moon nakshatras is poor ??

If asta kuta gives point 10 out of 36 (I am not talking about the present case ~ i don't have the Kuta table with me now, however Mrig is Deva while dhanistha is Rakshasha), should one at all bother about further details...as moon nakshatra is a indicator of mental temperament...if that doesn't match, marriage cannot be auspicious ?? What's your opinion regarding this ?


Namaste sm78,

Your opinion is well grounded as the 10/36 or 28% weight is a good indicator; Yet IMHO of offering advice on this is ill-advised. Reviewing the chart is key as there are multiple other things one can view... this may be the only blemish and there could be other yoga's that are favorable that extinguish the blemish.

What is in play here is my teaching , not to make a call on the quality of the forest by looking at 1 tree, even if the 1 tree looks distressed. The sample size is too small for me.

Take a look at the persons chart and see what else is occuring. Are there other dosa's? What does the Upa Pada look like? Is it favorably placed in the D1 and/or D9 Chart? look at the 7th house from the Navamsa lagna and is it infavorable or uplifting? What is the 2nd from Upa Pada look like? And what of the Karaka? Moon is there for mind/emotions but what of Venus?

My chart has Mangala dosa and several other marrage blemishes, yet the blessings off set them - I have been married for 35 years.

I respect your decisions on this..

pranams,

[sm78]

Hari Om
~~~~~



Namaste sm78,

Your opinion is well grounded as the 10/36 or 28% weight is a good indicator; Yet IMHO of offering advice on this is ill-advised. Reviewing the chart is key as there are multiple other things one can view... this may be the only blemish and there could be other yoga's that are favorable that extinguish the blemish.

What is in play here is my teaching , not to make a call on the quality of the forest by looking at 1 tree, even if the 1 tree looks distressed. The sample size is too small for me.

Take a look at the persons chart and see what else is occuring. Are there other dosa's? What does the Upa Pada look like? Is it favorably placed in the D1 and/or D9 Chart? look at the 7th house from the Navamsa lagna and is it infavorable or uplifting? What is the 2nd from Upa Pada look like?

My chart has Mangala dosa and several other marrage blemishes, yet the blessings off set them - I have been married for 35 years.

I respect your decisions on this..

pranams,

Thanks Yajvan for sharing your thought process...wanted to know how you analyze the issue.

[shanthanu_sarma]

Guruji, Thanks for your insight. Here are the details. Pls go through and do tell me your findings. Both timings are GMT+5:30.

XXXXXXXXXXXXXBoyXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXX Girl
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DOBXXXXXXXXX6-6-78 XXXXXXXXXXXXXX6-8-82
TimeXXXXXXXX15:15:00XXXXXXXXXXXXX11:30:00
LongitudeXXXX79:35EXXXXXXXXXXXXXXX81:07E
LatitudeXXXXX13:58NXXXXXXXXXXXXXXX16:42N

Shantanu.

[yajvan]

Hari Om
~~~~~

Guruji, Thanks for your insight. Here are the details. Pls go through and do tell me your findings. Both timings are GMT+5:30.

XXXXXXXXXXXXXBoyXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXX Girl
------------------------------------------------------------------
DOBXXXXXXXXX6-6-78 XXXXXXXXXXXXXX6-8-82
TimeXXXXXXXX15:15:00XXXXXXXXXXXXX11:30:00
LongitudeXXXX79:35EXXXXXXXXXXXXXXX81:07E
LatitudeXXXXX13:58NXXXXXXXXXXXXXXX16:42N
Shantanu.

Namaste shantanu,
I will leave this evaluation to sm78's kind consideration....

Look to see the D9 - it is critical sm78. the 7th from the lagna. Is Rahu or Ketu residing? Is it on this axis? look to see where the D9 lagna is placed. Is it a favorable, neecha, or placed or dusthana?

Look to the 8th house - this indicates a break in marriage - the 8th is the 2nd from the 7th yes? this is a key indicator.
And the favor of the Upa Pada, the indicator of wife - what house, and where is the Upa pada lord? favorable or distressed.

Now if there is a consistent blemish with all these conditions then one knows that the initial rajju dosa ( that was initally suggested, that of the rope or binding, also suggests large amount of travel and being apart from each other,) is warranted.

pranams,

[Madhavan]

pranam yajvanji - sorry for derailing this thread. Could you please explain the rationale behind jyothisha - what kind of literature is it based on? Jyothisha is extremely popular in Kerala though I am skeptic about it. And what are the factors that are checked while examining for marriage alliance? What data is needed? Your answers should be useful to everyone here.

[yajvan]

Hari om
~~~~~

. Could you please explain the rationale behind jyothisha - what kind of literature is it based on? Jyothisha is extremely popular in Kerala though I am skeptic about it. And what are the factors that are checked while examining for marriage alliance? What data is needed? Your answers should be useful to everyone here.


Namste Madavan,
This will assist you... its ~ 20 min of reading to help set the stage for more conversations if you wish to pursue. All are found on HDF Posts, for your consideration.

Jyotish introduction
http://www.hindudharmaforums.com/showthread.php?t=1339 (http://www.hindudharmaforums.com/showthread.php?t=1339)
http://www.hindudharmaforums.com/showthread.php?t=742 (http://www.hindudharmaforums.com/showthread.php?t=742)

Some additional info to form opinions Houses and signs ( Bhava and rasi)
http://www.hindudharmaforums.com/showthread.php?t=1421 (http://www.hindudharmaforums.com/showthread.php?t=1421)
http://www.hindudharmaforums.com/showthread.php?t=1607 (http://www.hindudharmaforums.com/showthread.php?t=1607)
http://www.hindudharmaforums.com/showthread.php?t=1681 (http://www.hindudharmaforums.com/showthread.php?t=1681)


Advanced topic for spiritually oriented
http://www.hindudharmaforums.com/showthread.php?t=746 (http://www.hindudharmaforums.com/showthread.php?t=746)
http://www.hindudharmaforums.com/showthread.php?t=748 (http://www.hindudharmaforums.com/showthread.php?t=748)
http://www.hindudharmaforums.com/showthread.php?t=764 (http://www.hindudharmaforums.com/showthread.php?t=764)

Obstacles and the Jyotish connection
http://www.hindudharmaforums.com/showthread.php?t=1570 (http://www.hindudharmaforums.com/showthread.php?t=1570)

[shanthanu_sarma]

Dear Yajvan, Can you spare sometime and look at the details in the charts mentioned. The match was excellent in all other terms and was rejected by few Vedic Astrologers. As a last try from my side for them, I have posted their details here.

Pranam.
Shanthanu.

[yajvan]

Hari Om
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Dear Yajvan, Can you spare sometime and look at the details in the charts mentioned. The match was excellent in all other terms and was rejected by few Vedic Astrologers. As a last try from my side for them, I have posted their details here.
Pranam.
Shanthanu.

Namaste shanthanu,
I thought to answer so there is no false expectation set. I do not plan to reivew the charts suggested. You may wish to ask sm78 or Arvind, if they care to pursue. If you have a local Jyotisha this is capible and shows interest, vs. how many rupees are in your pocket, youmay wish to stay with them. If they are only looking at the janma kundali and not going into divisonal charts of at least the Navamsa chart, then you may wish to question the final result.

Also as a side note for consideration - this is not the most auspicous time from a prasna perspective to approach the jyotisha. That is, sukla chaturithi , through amavasya. Even in my parampara , jyotisha discussions are put on hold with the guru for this period to pass.

Jyotish is light, and best for the light of the Chandra (moon) to be growing for the discussion of jyotish.


pranams,

[shanthanu_sarma]

Yajvan, sm78 and others. The couple were in love and the marriage was arranged to happen on aug'26. It got cancelled as the local astrologers said that they have siro rajju dosha, nadi dosha and deva-rakshasha gana problems and that marriage between them wont be good. As far as I know they didnt see the divisional charts. The couple are heart-broken.

As a friend, I want to help them to my possible extent. I dont want to spend money on local astrologers as they are farce and dont look at divisional charts.

Pls do the needful. I feel this forum has best people that understand astrology.

Pranams,
Shanthanu.

[sm78]

Namaste Shantanu,

Though Yajvam Ji has forwarded the request to me, I am not much knowledgeable about astrology as I am just begining to take interest in the subject. It would be fatal for me to point out something which impacts life changing decisions of two real persons. I can at most take a look at them as a case study for myself without committing anything. Can you pls provide the place of births for the 2 individuals ~ as I cannot input Lat-Long directly.

Finally, love is a greater power than planets as it comes from Ishwara directly. Hence the concerned couple should spend more time thinking if they really love each other deeply ~ but damage seems to have already been done by local astrologers...I personally know how they rip money in India without referring to anything beyond the janma kundli.

[shanthanu_sarma]

Dear sm78,
Thanks for the response. Here are the latitude/longitude info.

Boy: 13'59"N 79'35"E, 6th june 78, 3:15pm
Girl: 16'45"N 81'10"E, 6th aug 82, 11:30am

Pranams,
Shanthanu.