satay
13 October 2007, 10:38 PM
Namaste,
I thought to create a new thread here as too many points seem to be making things complicated.
For clarity, I thought to recap all the points that I am trying to make:
a) It is not necessary to keep repeating to hindus that jesus followed Vedic and Buddhist teachings. Any hindu that studies jesus finds out very quickly that his messages of ‘I and father are one’ etc. are from advaita.
b) Christians need to understand that jesus was actually relaying the Vedic and Buddhist teachings. So therefore, hindus instead of keep repeating among each other that jesus was advaitin should try their best to teach this message to the Christians by joining the Christian forums and showing how jesus was really a hindu/Buddhist mix.
c) Jesus is completely irrelevant to hindus as he offers no additional insights on how to get closer to God or how to attain moksha. Other sages have articulated the message better than him so therefore, hindus should concentrate on those sages instead of promoting the poster child of Christianity.
d) Self claimed enlightened master ravi is not enlightened for the following reason:
a. By charging for courses, he is just like any businessman trying to run his business. The point that he then uses some of that money to help the poor is irrelevant. Any good business would do that to gain more popularity and followers especially when the business is to attract people with fatter wallets.e) I reject ravi for not having the courtesy to prepare for a debate with a fundamental muslim and for accepting that he was lazy enough to not edit his book that he published about islam that is full of errors and then for shamelessly getting defeated.
For point b, I have offered two links to Christian forums where the message that jesus was following hindu/Buddhist teachings should be posted and feedback tracked to see how accepting Christians are of this message.
For point c, I have offered Sita Ram Goel’s article on Jesus showing the true jesus ‘an artifice of aggression’ and how Hindus should really reject the poster child of Christianity as junk.
For point e, I will post ravi’s debate with naik here, if there is interest.
Let's continue here if you wish.
To keep things fair, I could assign someone else as a mod i.e. you and I could report the posts to the temporary mod who will evaluate our posts for site rule adherence etc.
Let me know...
I thought to create a new thread here as too many points seem to be making things complicated.
For clarity, I thought to recap all the points that I am trying to make:
a) It is not necessary to keep repeating to hindus that jesus followed Vedic and Buddhist teachings. Any hindu that studies jesus finds out very quickly that his messages of ‘I and father are one’ etc. are from advaita.
b) Christians need to understand that jesus was actually relaying the Vedic and Buddhist teachings. So therefore, hindus instead of keep repeating among each other that jesus was advaitin should try their best to teach this message to the Christians by joining the Christian forums and showing how jesus was really a hindu/Buddhist mix.
c) Jesus is completely irrelevant to hindus as he offers no additional insights on how to get closer to God or how to attain moksha. Other sages have articulated the message better than him so therefore, hindus should concentrate on those sages instead of promoting the poster child of Christianity.
d) Self claimed enlightened master ravi is not enlightened for the following reason:
a. By charging for courses, he is just like any businessman trying to run his business. The point that he then uses some of that money to help the poor is irrelevant. Any good business would do that to gain more popularity and followers especially when the business is to attract people with fatter wallets.e) I reject ravi for not having the courtesy to prepare for a debate with a fundamental muslim and for accepting that he was lazy enough to not edit his book that he published about islam that is full of errors and then for shamelessly getting defeated.
For point b, I have offered two links to Christian forums where the message that jesus was following hindu/Buddhist teachings should be posted and feedback tracked to see how accepting Christians are of this message.
For point c, I have offered Sita Ram Goel’s article on Jesus showing the true jesus ‘an artifice of aggression’ and how Hindus should really reject the poster child of Christianity as junk.
For point e, I will post ravi’s debate with naik here, if there is interest.
Let's continue here if you wish.
To keep things fair, I could assign someone else as a mod i.e. you and I could report the posts to the temporary mod who will evaluate our posts for site rule adherence etc.
Let me know...