Which one is a greater demonstration of Arrogance

[Singhi Kaya]

Please think and vote:). Please think on a personal level. This is apersonal guidance question.

This is not a very scientific pole as I see~ 3rd option is besides the point. But it will help me. I may use it to counter votes in 2.

Also open to discussions.

[satay]

What's the context of your poll?

If you have anything to say about me specifically feel free to post it or post a poll about it.

[Singhi Kaya]

No it about getting things clear to myself by getting to know what other's think.

Ofcourse the thought came to my mind under the current vasinavism debate context~but it has nothing whatsoever, to do with anyone else other than meself.

Perhaves actions can only be viewed in a context, will be glad if anyone want's to discuss~but I think most of the choices above can be uniquely ordered irrespective of the context.

[satay]

okay. thanks for clarifying. I voted for 'preaching one's faith is most arrogant' but I meant it in the context that when no one asked for it to be preached.

e.g. I am happy to discuss hinduism as I understand it to a friend, a coworker or anyone else walking down the street that wants to talk about hinduism. But I think stopping someone on the street and telling them (without being invited to talk about) to convert to my sect or my religion is not only annoying but arrogant in my opinion.

[Znanna]

No choice for all of the above?

:)



ZN

[sarabhanga]

Namaste,

It might be wise to make sure that everyone has the same idea of "Arrogance" before answering such a question.

From Latin, Arrogare means to claim for oneself (from Ad Rogare ~ to ask for).

To Adrogate or Arrogate is to claim for oneself without justification; or to attribute to someone or something without just reason.

To be Arrogant is to unduly appropriate authority, or to be aggressively conceited or presumptuous.

"The arrogant man looks down on others, and with lowered eyelids he condescends to see them." [Darwin]

Arrogance is aggressive conceit or unwarranted presumption.

[Singhi Kaya]

Arrogance means ego to me.

After a good night sleep, this poll makes no sense to me now. Ego or arrogance is far too a slippery fish to be netted by a few external actions. I feel like kicking my own ****.

Nothing here, move on....


yes preaching is arrogant...

[elijah115]

Critisizing another system/faith may have nothing to do with arrogance.

[vedic_kings]

Critisizing another system/faith may have nothing to do with arrogance.

How is this so?

[vedic_kings]

Preaching = Missionary = Converts.

If one wants a change of belief, it will take place one way or another, but Missionary would have nothing to do with it.

I myself had to open my door from time to time to missionary preaching about the Bible. I told them, that if I was to listen to them, they have to listen to me too. Well that didn't last long.

My point is if any preaching was to take place, the other, the one who should convert has just as much rights to preach back!

Bottom line, the missionaries is not light from God. Missionaries are a shadow of control.

[Singhi Kaya]

Preaching can hardly yeilds converts~I'm not very knowledgable about christian expansion, but my guess would be that the sword had more to do with it than speech (however intrusive)

[vedic_kings]

Preaching can hardly yeilds converts~I'm not very knowledgable about christian expansion, but my guess would be that the sword had more to do with it than speech (however intrusive)

Yeah, speech with fear, is the trick of convertion.

[elijah115]

How is this so?

Christians criticise one another to help each other become aware of sin or behaviour that is contrary to the word of God. We are then meant to repent and turn to God in obedience as a result. If a person is following a road that leads to destruction, and a person who knows better keeps quiet, then believer doesn't love the sinner because he is allowing a being to destroy him or herself by remaining silent. Criticism is a way of dessiminating edifying information. The aim is to give every human being the information they need to be the best they can in this one life time. We want every human being to become like Christ. Criticism can be seen in the light of the parable of the seed sower.

[vedic_kings]

Christians criticise one another to help each other become aware of sin or behaviour that is contrary to the word of God. We are then meant to repent and turn to God in obedience as a result. If a person is following a road that leads to destruction, and a person who knows better keeps quiet, then believer doesn't love the sinner because he is allowing a being to destroy him or herself by remaining silent. Criticism is a way of dessiminating edifying information. The aim is to give every human being the information they need to be the best they can in this one life time. We want every human being to become like Christ. Criticism can be seen in the light of the parable of the seed sower.

Well this doesn't work well on hinduism, as we believe in reincarnation (many lifes) and Yogis are Christ like and even beyond that;)

[Singhi Kaya]

Christians criticise one another to help each other become aware of sin or behaviour that is contrary to the word of God. We are then meant to repent and turn to God in obedience as a result. If a person is following a road that leads to destruction, and a person who knows better keeps quiet, then believer doesn't love the sinner because he is allowing a being to destroy him or herself by remaining silent. Criticism is a way of dessiminating edifying information. The aim is to give every human being the information they need to be the best they can in this one life time. We want every human being to become like Christ. Criticism can be seen in the light of the parable of the seed sower.
Criticising others without questioning one's own self and beliefs can actually lead to destruction~for all.

Of course we don't think there is only one life time and one oppertunity to save ourselves from eternal hell, so self-introspection and quest for truth is the purpose of human life to us and not correcting other's based on our dogma. One teaches in hinduism only when one has become aware of God and truth~for the rest it is about continous search and not trying to judge other's when we ourselves are blind.

One can show light when one is enlightened, else we are doing a great sin taking other's into the path of darkness we are travelling. Such behaviour is regarded as demonic in hinduism.

[elijah115]

Whatever you say. Obviously you have your beliefs and I have mine. I don't see what's "dark" about christ's teachings. Speaking for myself, I know God and I know the truth, if I didn't, I'd be a liar.

[TruthSeeker]

Critisizing another system/faith may have nothing to do with arrogance.

I would say for people belonging to the same religion and sharing the same scripture, it is quite reasonable to argue for the correctness of ones interpretation and criticize others. That is not arrogance.

But criticizing other religions that are not bound by your scripture is sheer arrogance. For that, you have to first prove yourself. Missionaires cant answer a single question themselves and yet indulge in criticizing other religions calling them devilish demonish etc.