yajvan
10 May 2008, 11:26 AM
Hari Om
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Namaste,
In one of satay's posts he responds to some knowledge offered and says
If I may borrow Yajvan's words, I am starting to see the 'sameness'...
This notion of sameness is intriguing ( to me) and no less uplifting for the sādhaka¹… What is this sameness then that one can feel or get a glimpse of? It is based upon this notion of samatva समत्व or equality ; uniform conduct towards; equableness.
This notion of samatva is that of balance… Balance in thinking and acting, yet it is also in vision. I think that is what satay was referring to in his post. The balance of vision is the notion or epiphany/insight
that all that we view is samasta-sāma. This samasta is wholeness, combined , united + sāma or likeness , similarity, sameness.
It is a vision of this creation as being holistic and homogeneous. This also applies when one talks of various forms of Savesvara, or the Lord of all. One is able to appreciate all his forms and how people praise and worship Him in all different forms, yet in essence He is Brahman, He is Savesvara.
Perhaps this is why we view Viṣṇu (some write Vishnu or ViSNu) in this manner - tad vishnoh paramam padam, the all pervading Brahman; or Veveshti Vyaapnoti iti Vishnuh - That which pervades everywhere is Visnu. This pervasiveness is samasta-sāma.
Where does it start in the individual?
It starts with samabhava becoming samabhāva. Now these words look almost the same , where is the difference?
Samabhava = sama+bhava
sama सम is same, equal , similar , like , equivalent , like to or identical or homogeneous; having the right measure
bhava भव - coming info existence , birth , production
With samabhava this wholeness is coming into existence… it is maturing, and unfolding.
Lets look at Samabhāva
Samabhāva = sama+bhāva
sama सम is same , equal , similar , like , equivalent , like to or identical or homogeneous; having the right measure
bhāva भाव is the state , condition ; true condition or state , truth , reality
With samabhāva this sameness is reality for the aspirant. It is stabilized or established in ones life, all the time, all day, all year. So this balance is a very desirable thing.
Like satay, I am beginning to appreciate samabhava more and more as the march continues to samabhāva.
Ekam sad; vipra bahudha vadanti
Truth is one, sages call it variously - Rig Veda I.164.46 rsi dirghatamas
http://esotericteaching.org/images/Visnu.jpg
pranams
sādhaka साधक - effective , efficient , productive of , accomplishing , fulfilling , completing , perfecting , finishing i.e. the person practing sādhana leading straight to a goal , guiding well , establishing Reality; worship, adoration
~~~~~
Namaste,
In one of satay's posts he responds to some knowledge offered and says
If I may borrow Yajvan's words, I am starting to see the 'sameness'...
This notion of sameness is intriguing ( to me) and no less uplifting for the sādhaka¹… What is this sameness then that one can feel or get a glimpse of? It is based upon this notion of samatva समत्व or equality ; uniform conduct towards; equableness.
This notion of samatva is that of balance… Balance in thinking and acting, yet it is also in vision. I think that is what satay was referring to in his post. The balance of vision is the notion or epiphany/insight
that all that we view is samasta-sāma. This samasta is wholeness, combined , united + sāma or likeness , similarity, sameness.
It is a vision of this creation as being holistic and homogeneous. This also applies when one talks of various forms of Savesvara, or the Lord of all. One is able to appreciate all his forms and how people praise and worship Him in all different forms, yet in essence He is Brahman, He is Savesvara.
Perhaps this is why we view Viṣṇu (some write Vishnu or ViSNu) in this manner - tad vishnoh paramam padam, the all pervading Brahman; or Veveshti Vyaapnoti iti Vishnuh - That which pervades everywhere is Visnu. This pervasiveness is samasta-sāma.
Where does it start in the individual?
It starts with samabhava becoming samabhāva. Now these words look almost the same , where is the difference?
Samabhava = sama+bhava
sama सम is same, equal , similar , like , equivalent , like to or identical or homogeneous; having the right measure
bhava भव - coming info existence , birth , production
With samabhava this wholeness is coming into existence… it is maturing, and unfolding.
Lets look at Samabhāva
Samabhāva = sama+bhāva
sama सम is same , equal , similar , like , equivalent , like to or identical or homogeneous; having the right measure
bhāva भाव is the state , condition ; true condition or state , truth , reality
With samabhāva this sameness is reality for the aspirant. It is stabilized or established in ones life, all the time, all day, all year. So this balance is a very desirable thing.
Like satay, I am beginning to appreciate samabhava more and more as the march continues to samabhāva.
Ekam sad; vipra bahudha vadanti
Truth is one, sages call it variously - Rig Veda I.164.46 rsi dirghatamas
http://esotericteaching.org/images/Visnu.jpg
pranams
sādhaka साधक - effective , efficient , productive of , accomplishing , fulfilling , completing , perfecting , finishing i.e. the person practing sādhana leading straight to a goal , guiding well , establishing Reality; worship, adoration