ranjeetmore
23 November 2009, 03:44 PM
"Na tatra chakshur gacchhati na bha gacchhati no manah." -1.3 Kenopanishad
Your senses,your mind and your intelligence CANNOT go there.They Can NEVER know Brahm.They are material/jada/prakrt/mayic.
The following mantras are found in the Kenopanishad:
"Yad vacha nav vyudatitam yena vag vyudate tad eva brahm tvam viddinedam yadytam upasate" - 1.4
"jana mana san manute yena hurmano matam tad eva brahm viddinedam yadytam upasate" - 1.5
"ya chakshu cana pashyate yena chakshu 'vam pashyati tad eva brahm tvam viddi " - 1.6
"ya kshotrena na ksrunoti he na kshotra midam ksrutam tad eva brahm tvam viddi nedam yadytam upasate" - 1.7
"yah pranena na praaneti he na praanah praneeyate tad eva brahm tvam viddi nedam yadytam upasate" - 1.8
These verses mean :
Bhagavan PROVIDES the Energies in your senses,your Mind and your Intelligence.
With THAT energy do all these faculties perform work.Without His energy,they are INCAPABLE to perform their respective work.
NOW,the import is :
Bhagavan/His energies are the ones that put life into your senses/mind and intelligence,
exactly how the Sun powers up the solar light.
With that solar energy,the solar lights work.
Lets say the solar light is a torch (our senses/mind/intelligence) powered by the Sun (Bhagavan).
NOW TELL ME,
CAN YOUR TORCH LIGHT THROW LIGHT ON THE SUN ?
I'll answer that for you - NO,The torch light is incapable of throwing light on the Sun.
So How do you propose that we will understand Bhagavan/His Form/His names/His Being with our pathetic intelligence?
It CANNOT THROW LIGHT ON BHAGAVAN.Period.
for Bhagavan Himself is the cause for making your Senses/Intelligence work.
"Prakashak se prakashit vastu apne prakashak ki prakashika NAHI BAN SAKTI. " - Sri Maharaj ji.
This is exactly what happens in the incident narrated in the Kenopanishad.
All the great demigods like Indra,Agni are UNABLE to even Pierce the Transcendental Fiery,Effulgent Form of Sri Krsna.
They're unable to even look upon Him.
"Yadi manyate tu vedeti"- 2.1 Kenopanishad.
If you think that you know/can know/will know Brahm,then there is not a bigger fool than you.
e.g. Kalidas.
"Yato vacho ni vartante apraapya mana sasaha" taitereya upanishad 2.4/ also found in the same upanishad 2.9.
Your senses and Mind and Intelligence Cannot GO there.They CaN NEVER grasp even a hair of Brahm.APRAAPYA. He is Unfathomable.Any and Every Part of Him is Unfathomable.
Even a small part of Him or any Aspect of Him is incomprehensible.
Why ?
Purnasya purna medaya...
He is the Ultimate whole.
"Tadah avyakta maha" - Vedanta Sutra 3.2.22
He is Avyakta....Beyond Everything.
"Ram Swarupa Tumhara
Vachan Agochar Buddhi PARA !"
Sri Tulsidasa says,"That Brahm is Rama Swarup.He is BEYOND the grasp of your intelligence."
"Avigat akath apaar
Ram atarkya buddhi man vaani
mat hamar asa sun hu sayaani
go gochar jaha lagi man jaayi
so sab maaya janhu bhai."
Tarkya- means logic.Tulsidas says,"Don't take your logic there ! Ramacandra is BEYOND your intelligence,mind and speech . Those who are Intelligent Will heed to this advice of mine.Why cannot you understand Him by reasoning ?
I'll tell you why.Wherever your Mind,intelligence and senses go,it is LIMITED only to Mayic region.It CANNOT go Beyond Maya."
Thus Sri Tulsidas explains in such simple language so as to let even the fool understand the vedas.
Okay.We cannot know Him.But what about the great intellectuals ?
Brahma,Saraswati,Brhaspati ?
"Jag pe khan sab dekhan haare
vidhi hari shambhu nachavan haare
Teu na jaanahi Maram Tumhara
aur tumhi ko jaanan haara."
Rama ! Brahma,Vishnu and Mahesvara Do not Know You ! Who else will then Know you !?
"VedaAham samatitani vartamanani caarjuna
bhavishyani ca bhutani Mam TU VEDA NA KASHCHANN" - Bhagavad Gita 7.26
"Arjuna , I know Everyone BUT NO ONE can know Me.NO ONE."
Why ?
"Trbhir guna mayayair bhavair ebhih sarvam idam jagat
Mohitam nabhijanati mam ebhyah param Avyayam." Bhagavd Gita 7.13
No ONE can know Me,Because they are ALL under the three Modes of My Maya.I'm beyond these three Modes,divya.
So the conclusion is : No one can know Bhagavan.No one.No one.No one.
So no use putting forward some logical questions about the nature/aspect/form of Brahm.
Your senses,your mind and your intelligence CANNOT go there.They Can NEVER know Brahm.They are material/jada/prakrt/mayic.
The following mantras are found in the Kenopanishad:
"Yad vacha nav vyudatitam yena vag vyudate tad eva brahm tvam viddinedam yadytam upasate" - 1.4
"jana mana san manute yena hurmano matam tad eva brahm viddinedam yadytam upasate" - 1.5
"ya chakshu cana pashyate yena chakshu 'vam pashyati tad eva brahm tvam viddi " - 1.6
"ya kshotrena na ksrunoti he na kshotra midam ksrutam tad eva brahm tvam viddi nedam yadytam upasate" - 1.7
"yah pranena na praaneti he na praanah praneeyate tad eva brahm tvam viddi nedam yadytam upasate" - 1.8
These verses mean :
Bhagavan PROVIDES the Energies in your senses,your Mind and your Intelligence.
With THAT energy do all these faculties perform work.Without His energy,they are INCAPABLE to perform their respective work.
NOW,the import is :
Bhagavan/His energies are the ones that put life into your senses/mind and intelligence,
exactly how the Sun powers up the solar light.
With that solar energy,the solar lights work.
Lets say the solar light is a torch (our senses/mind/intelligence) powered by the Sun (Bhagavan).
NOW TELL ME,
CAN YOUR TORCH LIGHT THROW LIGHT ON THE SUN ?
I'll answer that for you - NO,The torch light is incapable of throwing light on the Sun.
So How do you propose that we will understand Bhagavan/His Form/His names/His Being with our pathetic intelligence?
It CANNOT THROW LIGHT ON BHAGAVAN.Period.
for Bhagavan Himself is the cause for making your Senses/Intelligence work.
"Prakashak se prakashit vastu apne prakashak ki prakashika NAHI BAN SAKTI. " - Sri Maharaj ji.
This is exactly what happens in the incident narrated in the Kenopanishad.
All the great demigods like Indra,Agni are UNABLE to even Pierce the Transcendental Fiery,Effulgent Form of Sri Krsna.
They're unable to even look upon Him.
"Yadi manyate tu vedeti"- 2.1 Kenopanishad.
If you think that you know/can know/will know Brahm,then there is not a bigger fool than you.
e.g. Kalidas.
"Yato vacho ni vartante apraapya mana sasaha" taitereya upanishad 2.4/ also found in the same upanishad 2.9.
Your senses and Mind and Intelligence Cannot GO there.They CaN NEVER grasp even a hair of Brahm.APRAAPYA. He is Unfathomable.Any and Every Part of Him is Unfathomable.
Even a small part of Him or any Aspect of Him is incomprehensible.
Why ?
Purnasya purna medaya...
He is the Ultimate whole.
"Tadah avyakta maha" - Vedanta Sutra 3.2.22
He is Avyakta....Beyond Everything.
"Ram Swarupa Tumhara
Vachan Agochar Buddhi PARA !"
Sri Tulsidasa says,"That Brahm is Rama Swarup.He is BEYOND the grasp of your intelligence."
"Avigat akath apaar
Ram atarkya buddhi man vaani
mat hamar asa sun hu sayaani
go gochar jaha lagi man jaayi
so sab maaya janhu bhai."
Tarkya- means logic.Tulsidas says,"Don't take your logic there ! Ramacandra is BEYOND your intelligence,mind and speech . Those who are Intelligent Will heed to this advice of mine.Why cannot you understand Him by reasoning ?
I'll tell you why.Wherever your Mind,intelligence and senses go,it is LIMITED only to Mayic region.It CANNOT go Beyond Maya."
Thus Sri Tulsidas explains in such simple language so as to let even the fool understand the vedas.
Okay.We cannot know Him.But what about the great intellectuals ?
Brahma,Saraswati,Brhaspati ?
"Jag pe khan sab dekhan haare
vidhi hari shambhu nachavan haare
Teu na jaanahi Maram Tumhara
aur tumhi ko jaanan haara."
Rama ! Brahma,Vishnu and Mahesvara Do not Know You ! Who else will then Know you !?
"VedaAham samatitani vartamanani caarjuna
bhavishyani ca bhutani Mam TU VEDA NA KASHCHANN" - Bhagavad Gita 7.26
"Arjuna , I know Everyone BUT NO ONE can know Me.NO ONE."
Why ?
"Trbhir guna mayayair bhavair ebhih sarvam idam jagat
Mohitam nabhijanati mam ebhyah param Avyayam." Bhagavd Gita 7.13
No ONE can know Me,Because they are ALL under the three Modes of My Maya.I'm beyond these three Modes,divya.
So the conclusion is : No one can know Bhagavan.No one.No one.No one.
So no use putting forward some logical questions about the nature/aspect/form of Brahm.