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Krsna Das
29 December 2009, 09:14 AM
Hare Krsna...Dandavat Pranamas !

I am having two questions for which I am seeking answers (although my first question sounds a bit stupid, but nevertheless.....)

1. All of our scriptures describe about various anilmal life like various kinds of trees, animals, sea creatures and birds etc. But one does not find any desciption of Dinasoures ;) . Since the vedic literature is considered eternal, it should have somewhere mentioned that these creatures existed. So what do you think?

2. And the verse in SriMad Bhagwatam that states that Moon is twice as far as Sun, how do you reconcile this?

All glories to SriSri Radha Krsna !

saidevo
29 December 2009, 11:00 AM
namaste Krsna Das.

Seems that a discussion about the dinosaurs in religious scriptures was done long back here: (check also the similar threads)

http://www.indiadivine.org/audarya/spiritual-discussions/34842-dinosaurs-vedas.html

Onkara
24 January 2010, 02:00 PM
Hare Krsna...Dandavat Pranamas !

I am having two questions for which I am seeking answers (although my first question sounds a bit stupid, but nevertheless.....)

1. All of our scriptures describe about various anilmal life like various kinds of trees, animals, sea creatures and birds etc. But one does not find any desciption of Dinasoures ;) . Since the vedic literature is considered eternal, it should have somewhere mentioned that these creatures existed. So what do you think?

2. And the verse in SriMad Bhagwatam that states that Moon is twice as far as Sun, how do you reconcile this?

All glories to SriSri Radha Krsna !

Namaste Ksna Das.
1. Interesting, I understand that the Vedas are eternal because truth is eternal. Truth cannot have a beggining or it will imply it will come to and end. However a part of something true is still true, albeit partly. So the chapters on Dinosaurs were removed after the last one no longer required it. :)

2. How can we proove that that isn't true without taking yet another persons word for it. If we need to take one persons word for it then perhaps Krishna Dvaipayana Vyasadeva isn't too bad an investment.

I reply with tougne in cheek for fun, no offence intended :)

kd gupta
28 January 2010, 10:53 AM
Point of fun is not there .
Why I say that Mukti is imaginary , it is because the mukti of body/soul is realy imaginary , nobody knows after the death .Krsn says what mukti is…
Yatendriya manobuddhir munir mokshaparaayanah;
Vigatecchaabhaya krodho yah sadaa mukta eva sah.
. With the senses, the mind and the intellect always controlled, having liberation as his
supreme goal, free from desire, fear and anger—the sage is verily liberated for ever.
Again Krsn talks of buddhiyogam [ wisdom ] .
therefore we are supposed to use Wisdom when all scriptures talk of Shabda Pramans .Shabdabrahmativartate , or there is one thing which is beyond shabda or words that is logic/wisdom including scientific also , similarly as Aham brahmasmi leads to think that this soul is source to know that Parmatma .

smaranam
28 January 2010, 04:01 PM
Point of fun is not there .
Why I say that Mukti is imaginary , it is because the mukti of body/soul is realy imaginary , nobody knows after the death .Krsn says what mukti is…
Yatendriya manobuddhir munir mokshaparaayanah;
Vigatecchaabhaya krodho yah sadaa mukta eva sah.
. With the senses, the mind and the intellect always controlled, having liberation as his
supreme goal, free from desire, fear and anger—the sage is verily liberated for ever.
Again Krsn talks of buddhiyogam [ wisdom ] .
therefore we are supposed to use Wisdom when all scriptures talk of Shabda Pramans .Shabdabrahmativartate , or there is one thing which is beyond shabda or words that is logic/wisdom including scientific also , similarly as Aham brahmasmi leads to think that this soul is source to know that Parmatma .
praNAm

You put it well.

there is one thing which is beyond shabda or words - that is
LOVE !

Aham Brahmasmi
I am LOVE
Love has a form too - its Sri Krshna ParamAtmA , dripping in rasa

kd gupta
29 January 2010, 06:30 AM
praNAm

You put it well.

there is one thing which is beyond shabda or words - that is
LOVE !

Aham Brahmasmi
I am LOVE
Love has a form too - its Sri Krshna ParamAtmA , dripping in rasa
Pranam
Thats right .:)

NetiNeti
29 January 2010, 08:59 AM
1) I don't know. Good question. I'll read up and try to come back with an answer.

2) It was wrong. No big deal. I reconcile it by knowing that man had his hand in the scriptures when they were transcribed and therefore some mistakes can be made. They way the Dharma makes me feel is way to strong to be wavered by some small scientific inaccuracies.

LALKAR
29 January 2010, 09:48 AM
Krsan Das G

1st question is not stupid there are many creature written in ancient texts that are unknown, it is not important that the word Dianasour could be used itself


2nd question either may be have some uncomman or hidden meaning that is no longer remembred, or may be wrong translation, because ancient Sanskrit is still difficult.

bhaktajan
29 January 2010, 10:09 AM
1] Dianasours are meantioned in the Bhagavatam [exact verse TBA] --at the end of kali yuga 'reptiles will be as big a buildings' and 'humanity will be reduced to pygmies'.

2] The moon distance issue can be resolved by measuring it your self!

The scientists of the last century have been too busy to concern themselves with verifying data in the bhagavatam/ayurveda etc.

The scientists of the last century have been very busy arranging for the playing-out of History as it was and is recorded in the text books and popular periodicals.

Japanese, Russian, North Korean, Cuban, Saudi Arabian, Iranian, Germany intelligensia have accomplished so much with their modern technology ---but still the price of rice in Haiti is so high.

There are other important things on the agenda for those in authority to take care of.

Do you not feel cheated?

sringeri
30 January 2010, 08:28 AM
Pranams to all

I would request members to confine themselves to answering /clarifying q's .The forum is looked upon by us for the sheer content and quality of subjects .

It will be great if everyone can maintain the decorum without being reproachful

Thanks and have a relaxing weekend

Sringeri

smaranam
31 January 2010, 11:53 AM
2. And the verse in SriMad Bhagwatam that states that Moon is twice as far as Sun, how do you reconcile this?

All glories to SriSri Radha Krsna !

Hare Krshna

Here is my 2 cents

The Sun is our AtmA indeed , the Vedic Sun
who rises to bring us from darkness (ignorance) to light (knowledge, enlightenment)

The Moon represents manas, the mind.
When pure its cool, beautiful, pleasant, poetic. The moon.

The AtmA- Sun is ours, Atma chaitanya, inner self, being, is obviously the most intimate. Hence closer than the mAnas-moon which can be "chanchal" and run about helter skelter. Plus , we are not the [material] mind, we are the AtmA.

praNAm