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By ThosPayne Translated from Sanskrit, it means "one Truth, many paths." It reveals that there is but one Truth (with a capital T). ...

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Ramakrishna
19 February 2010, 10:55 PM
I was actually having a discussion the other day with some Christians over God in Hinduism and Christianity. They were saying that the Christian God is a personal, loving God while the Hindu God is an impersonal, cold force. I was trying to explain to them how the Hindu God is both personal and impersonal, but they didn't seem to understand. I guess if I knew more about Nirguna Brahman and Saguna Brahman then I could have better explained it.

sanjaya
20 February 2010, 04:06 AM
Ramakrishna, I doubt that it's a problem with your lack of understanding. Christians have prepackaged responses for non-Christians, and will parrot them no matter what you say. But I'm honestly quite surprised that they even addressed Hinduism at all. Usually Christians only know how to argue with atheists and Muslims, and even then not very well. Yes, obviously God is not "impersonal" or cold in Hinduism, and we Hindus are quite capable of having a "personal relationship" with God (to put it in Christian terms). No matter what you say to them, they're going to keep telling you that God in Hinduism is incapable and unable to respond to your prayers. A better understanding of the personal and impersonal aspects of Brahman is certainly beneficial from a spiritual point of view. But it's not going to help you have dialog with Christians. They have a single-minded interest in conversion.

satay
20 February 2010, 12:01 PM
namaskar ThosPayne,

Do I know you? I honestly don't remember writing the content of the article. Where did you get that?



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Eastern Mind
20 February 2010, 02:01 PM
namaskar ThosPayne,

Do I know you? I honestly don't remember writing the content of the article. Where did you get that?

Namaste Sri Satay:

Yes, I thought of you too when I read this article. But after I read it, I was sure it must have been some other Satay, because if you would have written it, it would have been much clearer, had many more bigger words, and would have sounded far more like you actually knew something about the subject matter. Looking forward to the day when you, oh wise one, writes a similar but far more elucidating piece.

Aum

Ramakrishna
20 February 2010, 02:04 PM
Ramakrishna, I doubt that it's a problem with your lack of understanding. Christians have prepackaged responses for non-Christians, and will parrot them no matter what you say. But I'm honestly quite surprised that they even addressed Hinduism at all. Usually Christians only know how to argue with atheists and Muslims, and even then not very well. Yes, obviously God is not "impersonal" or cold in Hinduism, and we Hindus are quite capable of having a "personal relationship" with God (to put it in Christian terms). No matter what you say to them, they're going to keep telling you that God in Hinduism is incapable and unable to respond to your prayers. A better understanding of the personal and impersonal aspects of Brahman is certainly beneficial from a spiritual point of view. But it's not going to help you have dialog with Christians. They have a single-minded interest in conversion.

Sanjaya, that is very true. I guess a lot of people when they research Hinduism only a little bit they see Brahman as that impersonal "cold force" that is incomprehensible to the human mind. But as you go more in depth, you see that Brahman is actually a very personal God as well, especially through the various manifestations like Vishnu and all His avatars and Shiva.

I was actually able to get one of the Christians to admit that Brahman is much more than a "cold force" and is actually a very personal God. But he said that any similarities between God in Hinduism and God in Christianity is due to a "western" and Christian influence on Hinduism. I pointed out to them how Hindus began to view Brahman as a personal God hundreds even thousands of years before Christ existed, but then they just said that I was trying to deceive them :rolleyes:

satay
20 February 2010, 05:02 PM
:)

:D

Namaste Sri Satay:

Looking forward to the day when you, oh wise one, writes a similar but far more elucidating piece.

Aum

Jivattatva
20 February 2010, 07:11 PM
Pranama

Satayji, What made you think it was you?

The sentence at the end of the article is "thanks to Sri Satay"

I guess, Satay of HDF is not the only satay in the world. And do you address yourself now as Sri Satay? Thats a new development, if you do.

Regards

satay
20 February 2010, 07:37 PM
pranam jiva,

Yes, the ego. :)

sri satay. :D

Just kidding...


Pranama

Satayji, What made you think it was you?

The sentence at the end of the article is "thanks to Sri Satay"

I guess, Satay of HDF is not the only satay in the world. And do you address yourself now as Sri Satay? Thats a new development, if you do.

Regards

sanjaya
21 February 2010, 03:25 AM
Sanjaya, that is very true. I guess a lot of people when they research Hinduism only a little bit they see Brahman as that impersonal "cold force" that is incomprehensible to the human mind. But as you go more in depth, you see that Brahman is actually a very personal God as well, especially through the various manifestations like Vishnu and all His avatars and Shiva.

I was actually able to get one of the Christians to admit that Brahman is much more than a "cold force" and is actually a very personal God. But he said that any similarities between God in Hinduism and God in Christianity is due to a "western" and Christian influence on Hinduism. I pointed out to them how Hindus began to view Brahman as a personal God hundreds even thousands of years before Christ existed, but then they just said that I was trying to deceive them :rolleyes:

Unfortunately that's not surprising. Christians will only "study" Hinduism in order to mine Hindu texts for quotes that they can take out of context and misuse to convert the weak-minded. And of course, when they see anything good in Hinduism, they'll chalk it up to demonic influence that's intended to deceive them. Anyone schooled in the sciences should recognize this for an untestable claim. If you can't trust your senses, then what can you trust? Yet Christians would have you believe in their book over your own sensory perceptions. That's how they can call Brahman an impersonal, cold force, despite insurmountable evidence to the contrary.

coolbodhi
21 February 2010, 04:57 PM
Satay,
This is from your post at the interfaith forums.
http://www.interfaith.org/forum/40377-post2.html I haven't seen you around there for a long time.



namaskar ThosPayne,

Do I know you? I honestly don't remember writing the content of the article. Where did you get that?

proudhindu
22 February 2010, 06:32 AM
Satay,
This is from your post at the interfaith forums.
http://www.interfaith.org/forum/40377-post2.html I haven't seen you around there for a long time.

The post is succinct with it's focus was on Capital T.

satay
22 February 2010, 11:40 AM
namaste bodhi,

Welcome back!

Hmm...When I first saw your link, I thought to myself that I have never been to any forum called interfaith forums. Now that I visited that link, I realize that it used to be called comparative religion forum. Interesting.

You are correct, I haven't been there for several years now.

Hope to see your posts on HDF regularly...


Satay,
This is from your post at the interfaith forums.
http://www.interfaith.org/forum/40377-post2.html I haven't seen you around there for a long time.