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saidevo
12 September 2006, 09:54 AM
Dr. Subramanian Swamy, president of the Janata Party has recently published a book titled Hindus Under Siege – The Way Out in the USA. This book was released in NJ, USA on August 19, 2006 during the 72 nd Jayanthi Celebrations of H.H. Sri Jayendra Saraswathi Swamiji.

Kanchi Kamakoti Seva Foundation
491 South Oyster Bay Road
Plainview , NY 11803
Tel: (516) 938 0990
kksfusa @ hotmail.com

Copies can be obtained by mailing a check for $10 (made payable to KKSF which includes first class shipping for USA addresses) to the address shown above. For further information and for deliveries to other countries, please send an email to kksfusa @ hotmail.com

The author states that Hindus are under a siege because they are being targeted by four different factors:

By clandestine defamation of Hindu icons and symbols

Dr. Swamy points out that the arrest and jailing of the venerated Shankaracharya of Kanchi Kamakoti Mutt, as the Supreme Court has held, in a murder case case that had no prima facie basis; The attempted take-over of the Tirumala Tirupati hills for anti-Hindu activities; Denigration of the holy song "Vandemataram"; are examples of clandestine defamation; Outside India, Hindus have been for long denigrated in Pakistan, Bangladesh, Saudi Arabia, Fiji, and increasingly in Indonesia and Malaysia by the state


By demographic restructuring of Indian society

By terrorist activities directed exclusively against the Hindu community

By systematic and continuing distortion of India's history

(Source: http://www.kanchiforum.org/forum/viewtopic.php?t=1739)

Since it might take some time to publish and Indian edition, I suggest our members in USA might get a copy of the book, read it and discuss the ways and means to frustrate the adharmic forces against Hindus and Sanatana Dharma.

Sahasranama
20 June 2011, 05:19 AM
Every Hindu must watch these videos!

Interview with Dr. Subramanian Swamy. Interview by: Deepak Ganju
venue: Kashmir Hindu Foundation sponsored KP Camp at Lake Tahoe, CA
1) http://vimeo.com/18262337
2) http://vimeo.com/18248673

Dr. Subramanian's Talk in NJ - Hindus under Siege, the way out. The seminar was held on August 17, 2007 in Dwarakadish Temple, Parlin, NJ and attended by over 200 people.http://video.google.com/videoplay?docid=-6644225536753124845#

Lecture on Rama Sethu by Dr. Subramanian Swamy at USA
Brilliant lecture delivered by Dr. Subramanian Swamy on Rama Sethu during his visit to US in 2008. Dr. Swamy first gave the background on what is happening in India and worldwide to Hinduism and how Rama Sethu is another example of destroying Hinduism by various forces. He goes on to show the corruption involved and how he successfully argued for 8 hours at a stretch in Supreme Court of India and convinced them to block destruction of Rama Sethu. http://video.google.com/videoplay?docid=-4058137705893248345#

Sonia Gandhi Exposed This is the initial part of the lecture given by Dr. Swamy in New York. In this he explains that how the defamation case filed by Dr. Surinder Malhotra's (Indian National Overseas Congress)on behalf of Sonia Gandhi, doesn't stand a chance.
0/2 http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vXmu92Xj2TY
1/2 http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=84fkL6yB1X8&feature=related
2/2 http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WYwQkhWMXIQ&feature=related

Hindus under Siege, book preview (google books):
http://books.google.co.in/books?id=ww7OSD4nbcAC&pg=PA49&lpg=PA49&dq=hindus+under+siege+ebook&source=bl&ots=G3vcHoKRgO&sig=lhWiwJfqkb3mY52RubkQQS9W6cM&hl=en&ei=Ilf0TZq_McfwrQekxfHSBg&sa=X&oi=book_result&ct=result&resnum=9&ved=0CFUQ6AEwCA#v=onepage&q=hindus%20under%20siege%20ebook&f=false (http://books.google.co.in/books?id=ww7OSD4nbcAC&pg=PA49&lpg=PA49&dq=hindus+under+siege+ebook&source=bl&ots=G3vcHoKRgO&sig=lhWiwJfqkb3mY52RubkQQS9W6cM&hl=en&ei=Ilf0TZq_McfwrQekxfHSBg&sa=X&oi=book_result&ct=result&resnum=9&ved=0CFUQ6AEwCA#v=onepage&q=hindus%20under%20siege%20ebook&f=false)

Subramanian Swamy, Aitzaz Ahsan, Maulana Madani in IT Conclave 2011 - 1 of 7 At IT Conclave 2011, Dr Subramanian Swamy, Aitzaz Ahsan, Maulana Madani - Discussed whether religion is divisive.
Dr Swamy did some plain speaking on islam rather than the politically correct and inane generalities of islam being a religion of peace etc. In sickular India this is not usual. Kudos to Dr. Swamy.

Aitzaz Ahsan and another muslim in the audience make the point on Buddhism and try to pitch Hindusim against Buddhis. They dont seem to realise that it is forces of islam that handed over death blow to Buddhism - in Takshashila, in Nalanda etc. Bakthiar Khilji's sacking of Nalanda remains a crime against humanity. Recent islamic iconoclasm in Bamian, in Swat have been done by muslims. BR Ambedkar pointed out that Islam destroyed Buddhism not only in India but wherever it went. Bactria, Parthia, Afghanistan, Gandhara and Chinese Turkestan in all these countries Islam destroyed Buddhism. Aitzaz Ahsan did not address the arguably dominant, intolerant aspects of Islam.

Hindu differences with Buddhists were not settled with violence. Al Beruni pointed out that Bharatiya people thought it foolish to pledge their property and life on account of religious differences. Hindu-Buddhist differences were contrived and sought to be accentuated by the west since the hay-days of imperialism as were Hindu-Sikh differences following 'divide et impera' principle. Before dogma following Islam and Christianity moved in from the west, the the traditonal bottom line in Bharat was Dharma to which allegience was provided by one and all independent of sampraday - belief one followed.

Moderator was obnoxious and lacked moderation skills and did not seem to think it fit to get a christian panelist. Dr Farooq Abdullah ironically quoted Alama Iqbal to justify islam's tolerance as Iqbal had gone on to provide ideological basis for an intolerant muslim theocratic state in India. He also preferred not to address the intolerance manifested by Saudi Arabia, arguably the most influential Islamic nation.

Maulana Madani says Islam is tolerant. He refers to Koran 2:256, but only partially. "Let there be no compulsion in religion". The full verse actually also adds, "truth stands out clearly from error" arguing islam to be the only correct path. Next verse 2:257 goes on to argue that those that reject islam are evil ones to be punished in eternal fire. And then there is also the concept of abrogation; verses from Koran chapter 9 Al-Tawbah (verses 9:1 to 9:8) have been cited to justify violent Jehad. Koran verse 9:5, verse of sword says, "slay the idolators wherever you find them, and take them, and confine them, and lie in wait for them at every place of ambush". Maulana Madani, like a typical islamist was economical with truth when he argued that islam does not need to change. Maulana's style was moderate, but the position came across as islamist and uncompromising.
1) http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HBlmZ9n5dxA&feature=related
2) http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3prlsVU6TkU&feature=related
3) http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PNI78XbtLpc&feature=related
4) http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8QeGYewxk_U&feature=related
5) http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=btlWmQCchoM&feature=related
6) http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5MvaHgWOzQE&feature=related
7) http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZONPNQsHd-U&feature=related

PMs conduct unbecoming of an economist: Subramanian Swamy One of India's most colourful politicians and academic and intellectual, a zealous crusader, and some would say a maverick opportunist, Dr Subramanian Swamy, the national president of the Janata Party, spoke about how he viewed the PMs address to the nation on the 2G spectrum scandal after keeping mum for many months.
0) http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=EhPYsti_msM&feature=relmfu
1) http://youtu.be/zmjZHi_8Cg4
2) http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3VqA6BUMIa8&feature=relmfu

Dr Subramaniam Swamy: CTS TV:"Anything & Everything, On & About INDIA", One Must Know!!!: Dr Swamy, as an Ambassador of Hinduism, lucidly attended to Western-American inquisitive call in the overseas on and about India, here in US/Canada.

This interview of Dr Subramaniam Swamy was telecast on the eve of India's 60th Anniversary of Independence, in the 'Special Faith Journal Forum' show of CTS TV, Canada.

Contextually rest all are Self-Explanatory and Self-Exclamatory too, today being a special Day, Swamy Vivekanananda Jayanti, whose Hindu Ambassadorial Address in 1893 at Chicago, is all but a golden leaf in the pages of history !
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ShOsMw7Afy8

Subramanian Swamy's underground life during the Emergency Dr. Subramanian Swamy is the President of the Janata Party and was Union Minister for Commerce and Law between 1990 and 1991 in the Chandra Shekhar Cabinet.


"When I was at Harvard, JP had come in 1968, and hardly anybody recognised 'JP'. It was very sad, how in India people forget so quickly. The man was a great freedom fighter, gave up being Deputy Prime Minister for Jawarharlal Nehru and sacrificed his life for Sarvodaya. He made me spend six months in Sarvodaya and I told him that in India nothing works without politics. Even social work you need politics He was angry with me for suggesting this since it was a negation of his life."

In 1972, when "JP" was recovering from a heart attack, he called for Dr. Swamy and asked him to tell his people what he had told him a few years ago. Jaya Prakash Narayan's colleagues pounced on Dr. Swamy and called him immature and Americanised. JP supported Dr. Swamy. "The JP movement suddenly caught fire. JP was a hallowed name, forgotten but hallowed. Mrs. Gandhi became nervous, tried to malign him. In the end she lost the elections and that was how the emergency was declared."

Dr. Swamy, refusing to get arrested, went underground and lived that way for months. On the night of June 25, 1975 after having dinner with "JP", Dr. Swamy got an anonymous call from the police asking for him. Sensing that the arrest was impending, Dr. Swamy went underground. He refused to live in a dictatorship. It was on JP's insistence that Dr. Swamy went abroad.

"Those days security did not exist. I went to Madras, went straight to the airport, got a ticket for Colombo at the counter. Those days you could go to Colombo without a passport. Fortunately I had an American Express card and bought my ticket to London and that is how the whole 'Friends of India Society', which I founded, began."

"I used the Harvard platform and went to all the elite places in London -- The Royal Institute of International affairs, Chattam House, Institute of Strategic studies. The British elite was completely swayed. I was an instant hit."

Speaking about how he came into Parliament and made the one-minute speech on August 10, 1976, he said, "I bought a ticket on Pan American to Bangkok, which stopped in Delhi. I was a transit passenger and hence my name did not come in the passenger manifest. So the police had no idea I was coming. I got down, went to the transit lounge. There was only one policeman at three a.m., I showed him my Parliament pass and walked past. He even saluted me."

Narrating the dramatic events leading up to the one-minute speech in Parliament, Dr. Swamy said, " I checked into a hotel, then in a disguised voice called my wife. As a contingency I always keep a sardarji pagdi and a false beard with me. I asked my wife to come to the hotel for breakfast with these things and a tool-box. She came and gave me the things."

Dr. Swamy disguised as a television mechanic went to his house and walked past the policemen stationed outside his house. "I knocked on the door and asked if the television was out of order, my wife said yes, yes. I went in and stayed five full days in my house. Imagine, the police never questioned what this lady is doing with a television mechanic."

At the end of the fifth day, I sat in a car with my wife and drove to Parliament. I went in, signed the register and walked into the house. The Speaker was reading the last name on the obituary list. Everybody was shocked to see me, Bansi Lal, Om Mehta... They all looked at me and thought that perhaps I was there to throw a bomb or something. I said, "Mr. Chairman, on a point of order, you are on obituaries, Democracy has also died, kindly include that also in the list. They lost two minutes standing in silence while I walked out of there."

The escape thereafter, became even more difficult for Dr. Swamy. "It required nerves, that is all," he said. He reached Bombay, where the RSS offered him assistance and supported him. "There was such a man-hunt for me. Everyone connected with me was put to trouble."

This meant that he had to leave the country again. The only way of escape was by getting to Nepal. "As luck would have it, Mrs. Indira Gandhi was addressing an AICC meet in Guwahati and so all the police were there. I wore Nepali clothes and walked past the border and nobody stopped me. From there the King's people picked me up and took me Kathmandu and then the King sent me to Bangkok from where I caught a commercial flight to United States." http://youtu.be/GiNstP82UrA

Mukhamukam: Subramanian Swamy on Emergency excesses (1)
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xUw3BlArh3c&feature=relmfu
Sonia Gandhi is corrupt; I will prove it: Swamy (2)
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_AzBPV7L8nA&feature=related
Sibal is a yapping dog for Congress: Swamy (3)
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CzPed6QTW2w&feature=fvwrel
The safest place for Raja today is central jail: Swamy (4)
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CfsoERNUNTY&feature=relmfu

Sahasranama
23 June 2011, 05:13 PM
http://youtu.be/Sq1mWAv34QI

K S Sudarshan ji's Talk on the book - "Hindus Under Seize"

A very motivating and inspiring talk by Sri K. S. Sudershanji, the previous Sarsanghchalak (chief) of RSS . The talk is in Hindi and is subtitled in English. His speech is quite inspiring. Anyone who cares even an iota for our Dharma will do something after listening to him Sudershanji says that it is the duty of those who are awake to awaken the rest of us.he also says that Dharma has no synonym in the English language. This sums up everything about our Sanathana Dharma, which is Dharma towards everything. He spoke about how Indian kings resisted invasions from Arabia from 712 ad to 1206 AD and the reasons for India still remaining hindu, I was deeply impressed. At 2006, sitting in safer localities we can admire the resilience of our ancestors. But do we give a moment of thought to the price they paid for it?Still worse, do we even realize or acknolwedge it?I dont think that many of us realize it. The pseudosecular-left- intellectuals who carry hindu names and abuse everything that starts with a "in."(Indhu, india,indhi) forget that they have this freedom only because their ancestors chose to remain hindus, inspite of threats, violence and monetary benefits.Anyway, even thinking about about such p-sec intellectuals irritates me, so let me go to the valid point which sudharsanji raised- resistence of India. The only equilant for the suffering india faced from 712 AD to 1857 AD was the holocaust. Hitler killed jews in millions for 10 years. Jews havent forgotten it, world hasnt forgotten it. But we have conveniently forgotten the 90 million slaughtered hindus in bharathvarsha from 712 ad to 1857 AD. we dont recognize the hindu holocaust.It has been hidden in the pages of history. They say that winners write history books. The same thing happened in India. The pseudo-seculars who control India wrote history books and threw such an event into the dust bins of history. How did India survive this? The great Caste System[Varna Dharma] of Hindus stood as a rock against Muslim and Christian Invasion.It helped the Hindu society to survive the threats of religious conversions from Hindu religion to Islam and Christianity. Truth is a boundless occean.A hindu searches for truth in all paths and finally realizes that it lies in his heart itself. The moment he realizes it, he attains self realization.

Sahasranama
13 August 2011, 03:59 AM
The 4th Hindu Unity day organized by SDF (Sanatana Dharma Foundation) in association with Global Hindu Heritage foundation was held at Holiday Inn Plano on 7th August 2011. This years unity day was named " Hindu Dharma - Burning Issues". Many guest speakers from India were invited to speak on various issues related to the challenges faced by Hindu Religion in Modern day.


The guest speaker included Shri Kamal Kumar Swamy, Shri Tapan ghosh, Shri Rajiv Malhotra & Dr. Subramyam swamy. The day started with the opening statement by Hari Ram Subbu, followed by speeches by Shri Kamal Kumar Swamy & Shri Rajiv Malhotra.

Mr Kamal Kumar swamy spoke about the threat to Hindu temples due to the Govt's in the name of secularism & How the Ex Chief Minister of Andhra Pradesh was distributing the Temple land & Donations to the benefit of other religions & thus leading to the closure & demolition of many temples. Dr Prakash Rao introduced MR Rajiv Malhotra. Mr Rajiv Malhotra then spoke about the history of the origin of Bharat & how external forces are trying to break the country in the name of Human rights & helping the poor & needy. He spoke about his well researched book "Breaking India" as an account of proof of these activity.

This was followed by a break & informal book signing & photo session & lunch.

Afternoon session was followed by another 2 prominent speakers Mr Tapan Ghosh, who has been fighting in Westbengal against the atrocities by people migrating from border countries in the name of refugees & looting the local Hindu families. Also how is organization is defending these & how their fight not to become refugees themselves in coming years.

In the final session was Mr. Subramanium swamy, the President of Janata Dal & Professor at Harward University. He spoke about the Corruption In India & his work against that & how the present Govt is encouraging the minorities against the Hindu community in the name of secularism & communal harmony. He defined that, soon in many areas hindus have become minorities but still they are not treated as one & all the minority specials are taken by people considered as minority.

Hindu Dharma Rakshaka Shatriya award was presented to Shri Kamal Kumar Swamy, Shri Tapan ghosh, Shri Rajiv Malhotra for the work done by these members to protect & support Hinduism & the help in spreading the goodness about Hindu People & the religion. This program was attended by various local hindu organizations & people interested to understand more
about the work being done. Photos from the event are published below.

Dr. Subramanyam Swami Speech at "Hindu Unity Day" Organized by Sanatana Dharma Foundation

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MuKBJyh7Mxo&feature=related
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=750ZzfsMWrw&feature=related
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mRBgr1Up0qQ&feature=related
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VHaj_DCH3IU&feature=related
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NHOeMVKBUy4&feature=related
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CkdqtjHXp5w&feature=related

Rajiv Malhotra Speech at "Hindu Unity Day" Organized by Sanatana Dharma

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Xxp02qR6v_g&feature=related
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GtTTf4_Z8JY&feature=related
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yz9t5e1XNRk&feature=related
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nzaFSnJ3u0I&feature=related
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TYjr6RxJM1I&feature=related

Kamal Kumar Speech at "Hindu Unity Day" Organized by Sanatana Dharma


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=e56zkCSTDZE&feature=related
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4H8EhR4GlhQ&feature=related

Tapan Ghosh Speech at "Hindu Unity Day" Organized by Sanatana Dharma

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-Hw6LUoQmLQ&feature=related
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=J4Me3w5hOjk&feature=related
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xT96Tf2LM7o&feature=related
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ArVwyDgwImQ&feature=related

PARAM
16 August 2011, 11:41 AM
Christian drug lord Raul Vinci who is running the congress party

http://www.misual.com/2011/06/19/rahul-gandhi-exposed-by-a-iit-student-nitin-gupta/

it is also important that his Father was Robert Vinci who had Indian money in his Swiss bank account.

Sahasranama
16 November 2012, 12:15 AM
Anti Hindu vermin at Harvard remove Subramanian Swamy from University:

http://www.ndtv.com/article/india/harvard-university-removes-courses-taught-by-subramanian-swamy-156269

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RjIeJavEH-I

Harvard faculty members who signed the petition to remove Swamy.

1. Mahmud Hussain, Post doctoral fellow
2. Ajantha Subramanian, Associate Professor of Anthropology
3. Frederike Alwes, Post Doctoral Fellow
4. Prerna Singh, Government
5. Michael Witzel, Professor of Sanskrit, South Asian Studies
6. Richard K Wolf, Professor of Music
7. Guy Leavitt, Lecturer in Sanskrit
8. Diana L. Eck, Professor of Comparative Religion and Indian Studies
9. Richard Delacy, Lecturer in Urdu-Hindi
10. Ali Asani, Professor of Indo-Muslim and Islamic Religion and Cultures
11. Anne E. Monius, Professor of South Asian Religions
12. Amy Bard, South Asian Studies
13. Kamal jethwani , Instructor, Harvard medical school
14. Asad Ahmed, Assistant Professor of Anthropology
15. Leonard W.J. van der Kuijp, Professor of Tibetan and Himalayan Studies
16. Naseem
17. Alison Frank, History

Sahasranama
16 November 2012, 07:51 AM
The article in question is copied here:


Analysis: How to wipe out Islamic terror
Published: Saturday, Jul 16, 2011, 8:00 IST | Updated: Sunday, Jul 17, 2011, 18:23 IST
By Subramanian Swamy | Place: Mumbai | Agency: DNA
The terrorist blast in Mumbai on July 13, 2011, requires decisive soul-searching by the Hindus of India. Hindus cannot accept to be killed in this halal fashion, continuously bleeding every day till the nation finally collapses. Terrorism I define here as the illegal use of force to overawe the civilian population to make it do or not do an act against its will and well-being.
Islamic terrorism is India’s number one problem of national security. About this there will be no doubt after 2012. By that year, I expect a Taliban takeover in Pakistan and the Americans to flee Afghanistan. Then, Islam will confront Hinduism to “complete unfinished business”. Already the successor to Osama bin Laden as al-Qaeda leader has declared that India is the priority target for that terrorist organisation and not the USA.
Fanatic Muslims consider Hindu-dominated India “an unfinished chapter of Islamic conquests”. All other countries conquered by Islam 100% converted to Islam within two decades of the Islamic invasion. Undivided India in 1947 was 75% Hindu even after 800 years of brutal Islamic rule. That is jarring for the fanatics.
In one sense, I do not blame the Muslim fanatics for targeting Hindus. I blame Hindus who have taken their individuality permitted in Sanatan Dharma to the extreme. Millions of Hindus can assemble without state patronage for the Kumbh Mela, completely self-organised, but they all leave for home oblivious of the targeting of Hindus in Kashmir, Mau, Melvisharam and Malappuram and do not lift their little finger to help organise Hindus. If half the Hindus voted together, rising above caste and language, a genuine Hindu party would have a two-thirds majority in Parliament and the assemblies.
The first lesson to be learnt from the recent history of Islamic terrorism against India and for tackling terrorism in India is that the Hindu is the target and that Muslims of India are being programmed by a slow reactive process to become radical and thus slide into suicide against Hindus. It is to undermine the Hindu psyche and create the fear of civil war that terror attacks are organised.
Hindus must collectively respond as Hindus against the terrorist and not feel individually isolated or, worse, be complacent because he or she is not personally affected. If one Hindu dies merely because he or she was a Hindu, then a bit of every Hindu also dies. This is an essential mental attitude, a necessary part of a virat (committed) Hindu.
We need a collective mindset as Hindus to stand against the Islamic terrorist. The Muslims of India can join us if they genuinely feel for the Hindu. That they do I will not believe unless they acknowledge with pride that though they may be Muslims, their ancestors were Hindus. If any Muslim acknowledges his or her Hindu legacy, then we Hindus can accept him or her as a part of the Brihad Hindu Samaj (greater Hindu society) which is Hindustan. India that is Bharat that is Hindustan is a nation of Hindus and others whose ancestors were Hindus. Others, who refuse to acknowledge this, or those foreigners who become Indian citizens by registration, can remain in India but should not have voting rights (which means they cannot be elected representatives).
Any policy to combat terrorism must begin with requiring each and every Hindu becoming a virat Hindu. For this, one must have a Hindu mindset that recognises that there is vyaktigat charitra (personal character) and rashtriya charitra (national character). For example, Manmohan Singh has high personal character, but by being a rubber stamp of a semi-literate Sonia Gandhi and waffling on all national issues, he has proved that he has no rashtriya charitra.
The second lesson for combating terrorism is that we must never capitulate or concede any demand, as we did in 1989 (freeing five terrorists in exchange for Mufti Mohammed Sayeed’s daughter Rubaiya) and in 1999, freeing three terrorists after the hijack of Indian Airlines flight IC-814.
The third lesson is that whatever and however small the terrorist incident, the nation must retaliate massively. For example, when the Ayodhya temple was sought to be attacked, we should have retaliated by re-building the Ram temple at the site.
According to bleeding heart liberals, terrorists are born or bred because of illiteracy, poverty, oppression, and discrimination. They argue that instead of eliminating them, the root cause of these four disabilities in society should be removed. This is rubbish. Osama bin laden was a billionaire. In the failed Times Square episode, failed terrorist Shahzad was from a highly placed family in Pakistan and had an MBA from a reputed US university.
It is also a ridiculous idea that terrorists cannot be deterred because they are irrational and willing to die. Terrorist masterminds have political goals and a method in their madness. An effective strategy to deter terrorism is to defeat those political goals and to rubbish them by counter-terrorist action.Thus, I advocate the following strategy to negate the political goals of Islamic terrorism in India.
Goal 1: Overawe India on Kashmir.
Strategy: Remove Article 370 and resettle ex-servicemen in the valley. Create Panun Kashmir for the Hindu Pandit community. Look for or create an opportunity to take over PoK. If Pakistan continues to back terrorists, assist the Baluchis and Sindhis to get their independence.
Goal 2: Blast temples, kill Hindu devotees.
Strategy: Remove the masjid in Kashi Vishwanath temple and the 300 masjids at other temple sites.
Goal 3: Turn India into Darul Islam.
Strategy: Implement the uniform civil code, make learning of Sanskrit and singing of Vande Mataram mandatory, and declare India a Hindu Rashtra in which non-Hindus can vote only if they proudly acknowledge that their ancestors were Hindus. Rename India Hindustan as a nation of Hindus and those whose ancestors were Hindus.
Goal 4: Change India’s demography by illegal immigration, conversion, and refusal to adopt family planning.
Strategy: Enact a national law prohibiting conversion from Hinduism to any other religion. Re-conversion will not be banned. Declare that caste is not based on birth but on code or discipline. Welcome non-Hindus to re-convert to the caste of their choice provided they adhere to the code of discipline. Annex land from Bangladesh in proportion to the illegal migrants from that country staying in India. At present, the northern third from Sylhet to Khulna can be annexed to re-settle illegal migrants.
Goal 5: Denigrate Hinduism through vulgar writings and preaching in mosques, madrassas, and churches to create loss of self-respect amongst Hindus and make them fit for capitulation.
Strategy: Propagate the development of a Hindu mindset.
India can solve its terrorist problem within five years by such a deterrent strategy, but for that we have to learn the four lessons outlined above, and have a Hindu mindset to take bold, risky, and hard decisions to defend the nation. If the Jews could be transformed from lambs walking meekly to the gas chambers to fiery lions in just 10 years, it should not be difficult for Hindus in much better circumstances (after all we are 83% of India), to do so in five years.
Guru Gobind Singh showed us how just five fearless persons under spiritual guidance can transform a society. Even if half the Hindu voters are persuaded to collectively vote as Hindus, and for a party sincerely committed to a Hindu agenda, then we can forge an instrument for change. And that is the bottom line in the strategy to deter terrorism in a democratic Hindustan at this moment of truth.
The writer is president of the Janata Party, a former Union minister, and a professor of economics.
http://www.dnaindia.com/analysis/analysis_how-to-wipe-out-islamic-terror_1566203-all

Sahasranama
16 November 2012, 08:09 AM
Anyone who is even slightly pro-Hindutva has no place in western academia. Earlier this year, Dr. Koenraad Elst let everyone know he was banned from an academic correspondence list for taking a pro Hindu stance:

http://koenraadelst.blogspot.nl/2012/04/george-thompson-as-case-study-in-racist.html

Sahasranama
16 November 2012, 09:28 AM
Lecture on Rama Sethu by Dr. Subramanian Swamy at USA
Brilliant lecture delivered by Dr. Subramanian Swamy on Rama Sethu during his visit to US in 2008. Dr. Swamy first gave the background on what is happening in India and worldwide to Hinduism and how Rama Sethu is another example of destroying Hinduism by various forces. He goes on to show the corruption involved and how he successfully argued for 8 hours at a stretch in Supreme Court of India and convinced them to block destruction of Rama Sethu. http://video.google.com/videoplay?do...7705893248345# (http://video.google.com/videoplay?docid=-4058137705893248345#)

Link update: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7CjAV7TQQm8

charitra
16 November 2012, 10:13 AM
I digress. American hatred for hinduism is a well known fact, that is the predominant reason hindus remain elusive about their faith (unlike jews and muslims) . Tulsi G’s declarations has changed all that to the pleasant surprise of all. Americans indirectly signalyou,
' don’t bother telling us about hinduism, that’s some pagan faith not worth talking about’. Up until now the people here haven’t recognized it as alegitimate belief system, only recently with some lay people embracing the faith sending shock waves among the clergy, the Americans are even glancing at hinduism with some curiosity. Otherwise its importance lies in it being a fertile ground to hunt for easy victims for the conniving evangelicals. On their part hindus must not be rude to the newcomers. Some of the members here are confused and lump the new hindus alongside the antihindus. Separate oranges from apples first. To thosef ew naysayers, please do respect the western hindus as equals, they made a very hard decision with the transition, give them sahara(support). Namaste.

Anirudh
16 November 2012, 11:31 AM
To thosef ew naysayers, please do respect the western hindus as equals, they made a very hard decision with the transition, give them sahara(support)

Very valid point.

Sahasranama
16 November 2012, 08:48 PM
I digress. American hatred for hinduism is a well known fact, that is the predominant reason hindus remain elusive about their faith (unlike jews and muslims) . Tulsi G’s declarations has changed all that to the pleasant surprise of all. Americans indirectly signalyou,
' don’t bother telling us about hinduism, that’s some pagan faith not worth talking about’. Up until now the people here haven’t recognized it as alegitimate belief system, only recently with some lay people embracing the faith sending shock waves among the clergy, the Americans are even glancing at hinduism with some curiosity. Otherwise its importance lies in it being a fertile ground to hunt for easy victims for the conniving evangelicals. On their part hindus must not be rude to the newcomers. Some of the members here are confused and lump the new hindus alongside the antihindus. Separate oranges from apples first. To thosef ew naysayers, please do respect the western hindus as equals, they made a very hard decision with the transition, give them sahara(support). Namaste.

Then I will digress along...

Americans have had interest in Hinduism for a few centuries. The Bhagavad Gita and the Upanishads made a lot of impact on the transcendentalists. In the post-Calvinistic society people moved away from pessimistic thinking and took elements from Hinduism to develop a so called Christian Science or New Thought to develop a more positive outlook on life. The theosophic society and other occult groups also took interest in Hinduism, especially Tantra and Yoga. Psychologists started looking at Hinduism as well. This trend has never really stopped. This hasn't result in Hinduism spreading in the west, but in the emergence of an Americanised narcissistic religion of self delusion with an incoherent philosophy which was still largely based on Christian ideology. As long as Hinduism fits this model, it is accepted in America.

In other words, a so called Hindu like Deepak Chopra who promises you to get rich and live a long life is embraced with open arms, but a Hindu like Subramanian Swamy who stands up for Hindu rights and is concerned about Islamic terrorism in India is considered a pariah. Westerners are concerned about Islamic terrorism everywhere in the world, be it in Israel, in Africa or some oil country. But when it comes to Islamic terrorism in areas that concern Hindus, you can destroy your career even talking about it.

It's not unimaginable that Hindus are a little sceptic when westerners show interest in Hinduism. They may even look sincere, but will later give away their true intentions when they say things like Jesus is an avatar/ a vedantic guru or that it as all similar to Kaballah. They will give away their true feelings when they comment on Hindu politics on issues like Rama Janma Bhumi, Kashmir or Pakistan. Some see Hinduism only as an alternative form of psychology. Some have mere academic interest and take diksha solely as an anthropological experiment without ever doing nitya karma and instead spend their time on the Internet bashing everyone who does have faith in Hinduism. Some see Hinduism as valuable to their business model and start opening yoga studios or start teaching workshops and retreats to make a lot of money.

We should always welcome converts who are sincere and have devotion towards the Hindu deities, but from experience I can say that some caution is warranted and not all people who show interest in Hinduism can be considered sincere.

As for Tulsi Gabbard, I can respect that she is a convert to Hinduism and a devotee of Krishna and that she has become a member of the US congress, but her real test will be how she will handle issues that are important to Hindus. When it comes to the Islamic terrorism Hindus are suffering from, will she support military action against Pakistan or will she act like a peace loving hippie? What will be her stance on Christian charities collecting money in the US who go to foreign countries to commit religious violence and conversion? Issues like this will determine her sincerity as a Hindu politician.

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Webimpulse
16 November 2012, 09:11 PM
It's not unimaginable that Hindus are a little sceptic when westerners show interest in Hinduism. They may even look sincere, but will later give away their true intentions when they say things like Jesus is an avatar/ a vedantic guru or that it as all similar to Kaballah. They will give away their true feelings when they comment on Hindu politics on issues like Rama Janma Bhumi, Kashmir or Pakistan. Some see Hinduism only as an alternative form of psychology. Some have mere academic interest and take diksha solely as an anthropological experiment without ever doing nitya karma and instead spend their time on the Internet to bash everyone who does have faith in Hinduism. Some see Hinduism as valuable to their business model and start opening yoga studios or start teaching workshops and retreats to make a lot of money.

We should always welcome converts who are sincere and have devotion towards the Hindu deities, but from experience I can say that some caution is warranted and not all people who show interest in Hinduism can be considered sincere.

Namaste Sahasranama,

You do make some good points about who's sincere and who isn't, but if I may add something as a Western convert (that you hopefully consider sincere):

Part of the reason why Hinduism appealed to me and brought me out of the abyss of depression and self-loathing was the fact that anyone can practice it. If you're wondering how that's relevant, what I'm trying to say is that maybe the focus shouldn't be on "spanking" those who are insincere by your definition, but rather encouraging and helping those who are truly sincere. Hinduism isn't about the attack, after all - it should be about the defense and the healing.

I guess what I'm trying to say is that not every Westerner who shows interest should be treated as insincere? Not saying you are, but I think a Westerner would show more genuine interest if not met with skepticism and veiled hostility.

Besides, a fellow Hindu (as in born Hindu) I know has told me once, "it is not up to us to decide who's sincere - it is up to God." So maybe it's best to treat everyone the same and, to use an old cliche, let God sort 'em out. ;)

(I do apologize if my point isn't all that coherent...if you want clarification, just ask.)

Sahasranama
16 November 2012, 09:29 PM
I guess what I'm trying to say is that not every Westerner who shows interest should be treated as insincere? Not saying you are, but I think a Westerner would show more genuine interest if not met with skepticism and veiled hostility.
That is indeed not what I am saying. I am not saying that every convert should be treated with hostility and suspicion, but realistically we can't expect most them being sincere either. Some scepticism from Hindus towards converts is understandable though. You may be sincere, I don't know. Please don't take any of this personally.

Webimpulse
16 November 2012, 09:32 PM
That is indeed not what I am saying. I am not saying that every convert should be treated with hostility and suspicion, but realistically we can't expect most them being sincere either. You may be sincere, I don't know. Please don't take any of this personally. Some scepticism from Hindus towards converts is understandable though.

Understood, thank you for the clarification.

Eastern Mind
16 November 2012, 09:50 PM
Vannakkam: I'll admit it. I'm a western convert wary of western converts. Especially the more recent ones. :) Seriously. Too many experiences to not be wary.

Aum Namasivaya

ShivaFan
16 November 2012, 10:45 PM
Namaste Sahasranama

Speaking only to the point of Hindu heroes in academia who stand up for defending Hinduism from Islamic attackers, the fact that such Hindus would be subject to such abuse from University staff, professors and such should be no surprise.

Why? Because those professors who attack Hindus are communists and socialists. Too many are.

And so, they will spit in the face of Hindus and they KISS THE FEET of Islamists because both the Academicians and the Islamists have a common enemy, it doesn't matter if they seem opposites. So the Leftsts in the University will attack the Hindu because a true Hindu will bravely stand up to defend India from Islamic terror and hegemony, and since the Western Academicians like it when politicized Islam attacks and weakens anything that is not communist, then "ones enemy's enemy is your friend".

Hindus must realize, the communists are no friend to Hinduism. Not every professor is a communist or socialist. But too many are. Especially in the West. But I wouldn't be surprised if there are communists in Indian academic circles and universities as well, watch out.

Om Namah Sivaya

Sahasranama
16 November 2012, 11:08 PM
Namaste Sahasranama

Speaking only to the point of Hindu heroes in academia who stand up for defending Hinduism from Islamic attackers, the fact that such Hindus would be subject to such abuse from University staff, professors and such should be no surprise.


Yes, it is just another example how anti-Hindu western academia are, especially the departments that teach about India and Hinduism.

The instigator of this whole incident was Diana L. Eck, professor of comparative religion and Indian studies.

This is her email address where people can send protest mail:
dianaeck@fas.harvard.edu (dianaeck@fas.harvard.edu)

ShivaFan
16 November 2012, 11:30 PM
Namaste Sahasranama

Did you the name Diana Eck?

Oh my God. Is she attacking Hindus who defend against Islamic terrorism? I think I know, or bumped into someone with that name, Eck, in India. I thought she was a Hindu Westerner. I'm not kidding. I cannot believe if this is the same girl... Unless she just is like, I am embarrassed to say, some Westerners who jump from one "exotic religion" to another. So she likes Islam now?

This is how Westerners make life Hell for other Westerners.

This girl dressed in white Hindu clothes and yogi type female devotee type clothes.

Om Namah Sivaya

Sahasranama
16 November 2012, 11:36 PM
I am not sure if that's the same person. She is an old hag from Harvard, her picture is on this website.

http://www.hds.harvard.edu/people/faculty/diana-l-eck

She also seems to be a supporter of radical Islamist Tariq Ramadan:

http://www.phyllis-chesler.com/1060/diana-eck-subramanian-swamy


More information on the incident can be found here:
http://vivekajyoti.blogspot.nl/2011/12/petition-in-support-of-dr-subramanian.html

wundermonk
16 November 2012, 11:53 PM
I have never understood why Western Academia is interested in Indian history/philosophy. How many faculty members in Indian Academia research the history of the West? What would the relevance of such research be given that one is so geographically distant from the culture/ethos/religion/philosophy that one is researching?

Now, there are research departments in the US that tend to produce research output on Indian Philosophy. University of Hawaii comes to mind - the university also publishes the Journal of Indian Philosophy/Philosophy East and West (I dont remember which exactly) where I have found top-class articles on Indian Philosophy. But why would you research Indian Philosophy unless you find it superior to other philosophies? If you DO find Indian Philosophy superior to other philosophies, why would you be so anti-Hindu/India as some of these Witzels, Donigers, et al? :dunno:

Witzel, is apparently a professor of Sanskrit studies. Why would I, an Indian, be a professor of Hebrew Studies in the Indian Institute of Science? Why would I publish a book saying that the Jews dont have a claim on Palestine Biblically? Why would I be a virulent anti-semite? Something doesnt click.

Sahasranama
17 November 2012, 12:32 AM
I have never understood why Western Academia is interested in Indian history/philosophy.
It is an escape valve for c-rate scholars who were unable to make any significant contribution in any other field. In Indology you can publish any nonsense and call it research. You can even earn your PhD by taking a video camera and filming some undocumented religious ceremony in India and take credit for discovering it.

Eastern Mind
17 November 2012, 07:51 AM
I have never understood why Western Academia is interested in Indian history/philosophy. How many faculty members in Indian Academia research the history of the West? What would the relevance of such research be given that one is so geographically distant from the culture/ethos/religion/philosophy that one is researching?

Vannakkam: Personally, I think its a leftover from the crusades, and history of criticising India and Hinduism. When western scholars first arrived in India, they were just amazed at the religiosity of the place.

I went to an interfaith lecture at one of my teacher conferences a few years back, more as an observer, to see what they were saying about us. The presenter, a Catholic father, first asked, "Which country on the planet is the most religious in terms of time spent, and number of people?" Nobody got the answer (India) so he had to tell them. I just say this to illustrate how little the west gets us.

So my theory is historical jealousy as the root cause. The scholars and religious ones in history realised the only way they could maintain their evangelical nature in their own religion was to contrast and compare, but only in the one-sided way of putting the other one down. So that's how it started, as straight up jealousy, and the fear that westerners would come along, immediately see the vast superiority of Eastern faiths in logic, in practice, in getting along, in humanity, in ecology, etc. etc. So they figured they'd better do damage control, in order to keep their own flock. Damage control means finding all the little picky things you can about a faith, and distorting them, blowing them out of proportion, etc. and getting back to your own flock way before the Hindus can.

Over time others continued in the tradition of the bash, and so we have it today, in high places.

The California textbook controversy was a case in point, and resulted in Himalayan Academy producing one, called 'The History of Hindu India" (bold mine) for that's what it really is. You can't separate India's history from Hinduism. Still the Hindus didn't get all they wanted from the California curricula committee because Witzel and others objected vehemently to the truth being told. (obviously) .

But yes, I think the cause is straight forward jealousy and insecurity. You can see it in the body language of these guys and gals. They're really just trying to convince themselves, because somewhere deep inside their minds (very deep) they know ours is the superior faith.

Sorry for the rant ... just my morning conjecture.

Aum Namasivaya

Sahasranama
17 November 2012, 08:27 AM
The California textbook controversy was a case in point, and resulted in Himalayan Academy producing one, called 'The History of Hindu India" (bold mine) for that's what it really is. You can't separate India's history from Hinduism. Still the Hindus didn't get all they wanted from the California curricula committee because Witzel and others objected vehemently to the
Aum Namasivaya
Now you mention it, the book is available online for free. I will check it out.
http://www.hinduismtoday.com/modules/wfchannel/index.php?wfc_cid=20

charitra
17 November 2012, 12:13 PM
“But yes, I think the cause is straightforward jealousy and insecurity.”-EM

I came to that conclusion long time ago.Europe , instead of developing its own belief system, devoid of any religiosity for eternity had lamely imported a ramshackle faith from a desert corner of west asia. Every trick in the book was applied to rub this inadequate faith on all europeans, force and connivance remained the major means to accomplish the goal ( I was watching Borjias TV series these couple of years).Now that the westerners are stuck with this inadequate doctrinalconstruct (Acharya David Frawley) they have no choice but ‘somehow’ keep it floating. Bash other existing faiths and rate yours higher is the only leftover option for them. But then as information became available much easier in recent decades and more importantly that westerners started to have a critical outlook about life and philosophy, they pushed away the misinforming pastors and started exploring these distant faiths without bias or agenda. Most westerners became disinterested in their born faith, a tiny fraction moved on and explored dharmic faiths and remained happy campers there.

There is a serious case for introspection here. Why an Indologist like say Doniger turns hostile to Hinduism, we can quote a few more names here. Sita sings blues fame Nina Paley has an agenda beyond all doubts- she was dumped by a hindu man and that resulted in her taking revenge on his faith instead. Likewise, a hindu must have rubbed Doniger on the wrongside and the jewish woman wrote a distorted history of Hinduism (calling it an alternate history). Antihindu sentiments overpowering these once serious indophiles (hinduphileis more accurate) may have everything to do with their personal experiences with a few bad hindus and has nothing to do with the great faith itself. Take home message is that hindus must shed their suspicion and be warm and welcoming to those who come knocking at the door of the faith. We simply cant separate (bad)behavior of hindus from Hinduism.
We cant change the Billy Grahams and Pat Robertsons ever, who gleefully spread misinformation about Hinduism, but then at least we can help stop creating more Nina Paleys and possibly Donigers with some sensible conduct on our part. If you want to pick on someone please go argue with the likes of Ramachandra Guha, who says he is from a pujari family and relentlessly badmouths hindus, and is happily making loads of money doing so!! Namaste.

Eastern Mind
17 November 2012, 01:11 PM
Vannakkam: Academia is really difficult to change. Its fill of cliques, like literary publishing, politics, and a few more. So a person gets a doctorate by being 'peer-reviewed'. In other words, you tow the party line or don't get your doctorate. So the club controls new members, and in this way maintain the status quo. So academia is almost lost cause. Fortunately, as charitra says, Everyman can actually think these days, and can go beyond academia to more legitimate sources for information, the Hindus themselves. But we need more information just 'out there' so there is at least a choice.

In literary publishing, you have to write a certain literary style (full of metaphor, obscure language, vague ideas, uncertain plots, depression, weird sexuality, etc. or else your peers consider you a buffoon, because they're all too 'smart' (read egotistical) for lay material. Tough club to break into, but who really wants to?

Aum Namasivaya

charitra
17 November 2012, 02:14 PM
........... Tough club to break into, but who really wants to? Aum Namasivaya


We can throw in an open challenge to the likes of Witzel and Doniger 'to say a few lines on weather in Boston and Chicago during winter times, all in sanskrit'. Then their Sanskrit proficiency will be disclosed to the world in no time. To ask them to translate vedic verses, on the other hand, is too much of a work for these ‘ sanskrit scholars’. Get the standards of sanskrit professors in the west?

Here is a link for a short and complex book review piece on the latest work of Konrad Elst , an Indophile, you all might enjoy. There are many westerners who genuinely bleed for the hindus, believe me.

http://www.dailypioneer.com/sunday-edition/sundayagenda/books-reviews/109262-hindus-and-their-enemies.html (http://www.dailypioneer.com/sunday-edition/sundayagenda/books-reviews/109262-hindus-and-their-enemies.html)

Sahasranama
17 November 2012, 09:15 PM
...but then at least we can help stop creating more Nina Paleys and possibly Donigers with some sensible conduct on our part. You are shifting the blame towards Hindus. Somehow Hindus are responsible for the Donigers and Paleys? What nonsense.

You are using the same argument Christians and Muslims use when their religion gets criticised. "We get blamed for the few bad apples." How do you know that the man who dumped Nina Paley was a bad apple? He may have had very good reasons to dump that hag. Why do you think some bad Hindu must have tipped of Doniger to become an anti Hindu vermin? So for every anti Hindu academician, there must have been some very bad bad Hindu stepping on their toes?

When should we send out the memo to all Hindus not to step on the toes of academicians?

philosoraptor
20 November 2012, 09:31 AM
I have never understood why Western Academia is interested in Indian history/philosophy. How many faculty members in Indian Academia research the history of the West? What would the relevance of such research be given that one is so geographically distant from the culture/ethos/religion/philosophy that one is researching?

Now, there are research departments in the US that tend to produce research output on Indian Philosophy. University of Hawaii comes to mind - the university also publishes the Journal of Indian Philosophy/Philosophy East and West (I dont remember which exactly) where I have found top-class articles on Indian Philosophy. But why would you research Indian Philosophy unless you find it superior to other philosophies? If you DO find Indian Philosophy superior to other philosophies, why would you be so anti-Hindu/India as some of these Witzels, Donigers, et al? :dunno:

Witzel, is apparently a professor of Sanskrit studies. Why would I, an Indian, be a professor of Hebrew Studies in the Indian Institute of Science? Why would I publish a book saying that the Jews dont have a claim on Palestine Biblically? Why would I be a virulent anti-semite? Something doesnt click.

Pranams,

I can probably offer a few insights:

1) The government gives these universities grant money with the idea that they are doing all sorts of research in the humanities. If government hand outs were not the rule, these scholars and the universities that employ them would have to go to the community for donations. The public treasury has become a public feeding trough.

2) There is an advantage to knowing other cultures when one formulates one's foreign policy, and Rajiv Malhotra in a couple of his writings alludes to American foreign policy towards India being colored by attitudes about India coming out of Western Academia.

3) Indian kids in Western private schools do study English and Shakespeare and all the other so-called "literature" of the West. Why? It's to prepare them to integrate with the Western world. In contrast, Americans study Indian culture the way a biologist would use a microscope to undertand the inner workings of a microorganism, or a vivisectionist would through dissection.

4) They don't research Indian philosophy because they find it "superior" in any way. Many academics are Left-wingers who see the State as an inherently virtuous institution, and their own roles as equalizers to expose alleged inequality. Thus, it goes without saying that a Western academic will only see casteism and sexism while the Hindu sees humility and devotion.

dogra
21 November 2012, 07:20 AM
Can we launch cyber statements on truth of hinduism, via twotter, facebook, and question wendy doniger

wundermonk
24 November 2012, 10:14 AM
2) There is an advantage to knowing other cultures when one formulates one's foreign policy, and Rajiv Malhotra in a couple of his writings alludes to American foreign policy towards India being colored by attitudes about India coming out of Western Academia.

Hmm...So, US government funds US citizens to study other cultures so that foreign policy can be framed accordingly. But this still does not explain why only rabidly anti-Hindu views should be the outcome of such efforts.:dunno:


4) They don't research Indian philosophy because they find it "superior" in any way. Many academics are Left-wingers who see the State as an inherently virtuous institution, and their own roles as equalizers to expose alleged inequality. Thus, it goes without saying that a Western academic will only see casteism and sexism while the Hindu sees humility and devotion.

First of all, the so-called "left wingers" in most countries, including the US, are intellectually dishonest. Whether it is economic ideas or political ideas, their hypocrisy is mostly easily uncovered. But that can be for another thread.

Yet, the above still does not make sense. Let us assume the Indian government is willing to provide me with a lot of funding to study Hebrew culture. Why would I, an Indian Hindu, with this money, reach the conclusion that Israelis are racists and Jews have no Biblical claim whatsoever on Palestinian lands? If I reach that conclusion, why would I proclaim myself to be the self-appointed scholar on such issues? History ALWAYS has two legitimate POVs regarding any issue.

So, the question still stands, WHY would a Caucasian non-Hindu research Hinduism with the plethora of funds which the US government provides? Why not study something else? To me, the Donigers and Witzels of the world are intellectually dishonest and shoddy "scholars". They bend over backwards to try and fit square evidence into round-shaped preconceived notions.

philosoraptor
28 November 2012, 12:06 PM
Hmm...So, US government funds US citizens to study other cultures so that foreign policy can be framed accordingly. But this still does not explain why only rabidly anti-Hindu views should be the outcome of such efforts.:dunno:

First of all, the so-called "left wingers" in most countries, including the US, are intellectually dishonest. Whether it is economic ideas or political ideas, their hypocrisy is mostly easily uncovered. But that can be for another thread.

Yet, the above still does not make sense. Let us assume the Indian government is willing to provide me with a lot of funding to study Hebrew culture. Why would I, an Indian Hindu, with this money, reach the conclusion that Israelis are racists and Jews have no Biblical claim whatsoever on Palestinian lands? If I reach that conclusion, why would I proclaim myself to be the self-appointed scholar on such issues? History ALWAYS has two legitimate POVs regarding any issue.

So, the question still stands, WHY would a Caucasian non-Hindu research Hinduism with the plethora of funds which the US government provides? Why not study something else? To me, the Donigers and Witzels of the world are intellectually dishonest and shoddy "scholars". They bend over backwards to try and fit square evidence into round-shaped preconceived notions.

Right or wrong conclusions invariably fit someone's ideology, and so there is always a "market" for such conclusions in the political world. Why would anti-Hindu views be the repeated outcome of research into Indology? Aside from the fact that the humanities tend to attract Left-wingers, and Left-wingers have been heavily influenced by neo-Marxist theories of class and race-relations, we can probably speculate that anti-Hindu conclusions serve the purpose of those who don't want the US to improve its relations with India for one reason or another. Perhaps those people would rather we talk to Pakistan (look at the last 8-10 years of US foreign policy which privileged Pakistan). Or, perhaps those people just don't want us to give foreign aid to India. Also, and this is an extremely important point to consider - politics, like the humanities, are for those who don't have any truly marketable skills. That sounds cruel, and in all honesty I do respect honest scholarship in the humanities, but let's face it. Scholarship in the humanities is often about "fitting the round peg" of established knowledge into the "square peg" of some en-vogue political ideology, as opposed to the quest for true knowledge based on exposition of known facts. The Witzels and Donigers of this world could never make it as true scientists, engineers, doctors, etc because they don't respect the scientific method, however much they may allude to it as a rationalization for their views.