Indology Research Findings

[saidevo]

Indus Script: the Mother of All Alphabetic Scripts

I chanced on this link about a book that claims that just as the origin of numbers is traced to India, so can the origin of the alphabets to the Indus script. The authors claim to have deciphered the Indus script and traced it to Vedic Sanskrit.

http://www.indiastar.com/wallia27.htm

[indianx]

I don't think the origin of numbers has been traced back to India. Obviously the Hindu numerals are from India, but the concept of numbers dates back much earlier, when humans were in the Paleolithic era.

[sarabhanga]

Namaste,

The idea of number (at least up to five, which has long signified “many” or “all”) is very old indeed; but the first use of ten different numeral signs, most importantly including the concept and use of zero, in a decimal system just as we use today (including the “arabic” numeral signs), has certainly been traced back to Sanskrit and (of course) India.


० १ २ ३ ४ ५ ६ ७ ८ ९
१० ११ १२ १३ १४ १५ १६ १७ १८ १९
२० २१ २२ २३ २४ २५ २६ २७ २८ २९
&c.

[sarabhanga]

The first urban settlements in the Indus Valley, in Egypt, and in Sumer, were all established around 3,600 BC; and by about 3,200 BC, each of these ancient civilizations had already developed their own written language or script.

[Gill Harley]

Saidevo

Namaste

Sorry, I'm late to this thread.

Unfortunately, few Indologists trust any research by NS Rajaram after he falsified one of the Indus seals to try to prove that horses were found in ancient India.

This business of whether or not ancient India had horses is considered, by Western Indologists, to be key to the debate of whether or not there was an Aryan invasion. I won't bore you with the ins and outs of it, unless you particularly want me to.

But unfortunately, it does look as if NS Rajaram did try to falsify one of the Indus seals to show a horse.

[SHIVAJI]

Saidevo

Namaste

Sorry, I'm late to this thread.

Unfortunately, few Indologists trust any research by NS Rajaram after he falsified one of the Indus seals to try to prove that horses were found in ancient India.

This business of whether or not ancient India had horses is considered, by Western Indologists, to be key to the debate of whether or not there was an Aryan invasion. I won't bore you with the ins and outs of it, unless you particularly want me to.

But unfortunately, it does look as if NS Rajaram did try to falsify one of the Indus seals to show a horse.

It is ridiculous to have debates on whether there were horses in ancient India.

The Bhagavad Gita , itself was taught in the chariot strung to stallions , in the middle of the battlefield by Krishna to Arjuna .

And Krishna was born on July 20 , 3227 B.C.

Horses were also mentioned in the ramayana as well.

RAma was taken in a chariot to the forest during the vanavasa period.

That the aryan invasion theory is a myth created by western racist pseudo-scholars is now a well-established fact.

If they did not go around creating their idiotic Aryan invasion nonsense, no Adolf Hitler or Nazism would have come up in Europe killing 60 million people in the process.

[Kaos]

Perhaps, you can read about the Scythians.

[sarabhanga]

That the Aryan Invasion Theory is a myth created by western racist pseudo-scholars is now a well-established fact.

Namaste Shivaji,

When the Aryan “invasion” is understood as a simple trans-Himalayan migration, how is the theory at all racist, and why should we accept that it has been disproved?

See: http://www.hindudharmaforums.com/showpost.php?p=4543&postcount=2 and http://www.hindudharmaforums.com/showpost.php?p=4580&postcount=6

[TatTvamAsi]

Namaste Shivaji,

When the Aryan “invasion” is understood as a simple trans-Himalayan migration, how is the theory at all racist, and why should we accept that it has been disproved?


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First and foremost, in any Hindu scripture, there is NEVER any mention of an 'Aryan' race. Arya means noble, either by birth and/or by character/action. One who displays good character and is of 'high' birth is an Aryan. End of story.

So, indeed, the Ayran "invasion" THEORY is utterly FALSE, and propogandized by pseudo Indologists (like that jew Witzel @ Harvard) and other historians whose only intent is to malign Aryavarta (India) and her glorious heritage.

Furthermore, India, or Aryavarta as it was known in the days of yore, stretched from areas of present day Iran to north-eastern Afghanistan so any "trans-Himalayan migration" as you call it is ALL WITHIN INDIA! There is no influence from outside as a matter of fact, it is the other way around. The OUT OF INDIA THEORY seems to make sense as mathematics, astrology, cosmology, philosophy, etc. owe their origin to India.

Sarabangha, can you explain the relationship between the Sumerian script and the Tamil script? Also, the sexagesimal system was used in India as well as in the Sumerian civilization. The dating of the Vedic texts, even after they were written down, is bunk due to the highly Eurocentric mentality and rather blantant prejudice towards Bharat these pseudo historians and scholars show. Witzel (or *&#@ is what I'd like to call him) suggests the Rig Veda was written around 1500 BCE! hahaha. joke of the millenium if you ask me. The Rig Veda has been recited for tens of millenia and just because we don't have a hardened clay book that we can use Carbon Dating to date does not make it non-existant prior to the evidence that is in hand.

According to Sanathana Dharma, in the Svetavaraha Kalpa, we are in the 7th manvantara which means that human (or Indian :)) civilization has been around for almost 2 billion years!! Now this seems preposterous at first but it has neither been proven nor disproven using the western methodology of 'research and rationalization'!

At the end of the day, as Voltaire said, "...I firmly believe that everything has come down to us from the banks of the Ganga..."! ;)

Subham.

[TatTvamAsi]

It is ridiculous to have debates on whether there were horses in ancient India.

The Bhagavad Gita , itself was taught in the chariot strung to stallions , in the middle of the battlefield by Krishna to Arjuna .

And Krishna was born on July 20 , 3227 B.C.

Horses were also mentioned in the ramayana as well.

RAma was taken in a chariot to the forest during the vanavasa period.

That the aryan invasion theory is a myth created by western racist pseudo-scholars is now a well-established fact.

If they did not go around creating their idiotic Aryan invasion nonsense, no Adolf Hitler or Nazism would have come up in Europe killing 60 million people in the process.

Wonderfully put! Also, the Ashwamedha Yagna has been around for so long, even done by Dilipa of the Ikshvaku clan, who is an ancestor of Rama. Horses were prevalent in warfare in Aryavarta from antiquarian times!

[sarabhanga]

See: http://www.hindudharmaforums.com/showpost.php?p=20194&postcount=76

[Sagefrakrobatik]

It is ridiculous to have debates on whether there were horses in ancient India.

The Bhagavad Gita , itself was taught in the chariot strung to stallions , in the middle of the battlefield by Krishna to Arjuna .



And Krishna was born on July 20 , 3227 B.C.


Horses were also mentioned in the ramayana as well.

RAma was taken in a chariot to the forest during the vanavasa period.

That the aryan invasion theory is a myth created by western racist pseudo-scholars is now a well-established fact.

If they did not go around creating their idiotic Aryan invasion nonsense, no Adolf Hitler or Nazism would have come up in Europe killing 60 million people in the process.

How did you come to the conclusion that that was when Krishna was born?