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Eastern Mind
06 July 2010, 07:02 AM
Vannakkam: This Rajan Zed guy or his associates sure must spend a lot of time digging things up. In this story, there were only about 3 of the murthis that I found 'debatable'. But unlike skateboards and sandals, I think these depictions were probably made in India itself, and there is probably a supplier somewhere for the company he protested against. But "m still happy he does what he does. Someone has to point these things out.

Aum Namasivaya

MahaHrada
07 July 2010, 05:07 AM
Vannakkam: This Rajan Zed guy or his associates sure must spend a lot of time digging things up. In this story, there were only about 3 of the murthis that I found 'debatable'. But unlike skateboards and sandals, I think these depictions were probably made in India itself, and there is probably a supplier somewhere for the company he protested against. But "m still happy he does what he does. Someone has to point these things out.

Aum Namasivaya

I still think he is payed by christians to make Hindus look like a bunch of idiots. He is constantly featured together with some Christian organisations, receiving honours etc. almost never with other Hindus, his Society has no website, we never hear of any other members. He is always introduced as an acclaimned statesman, but we never are told what that could be. He is constantly harrassing celebs that have some interests, comment or like Hinduism and use mantras, teachings or symbols, in such a dumb way that celebs will begin to dislike the use of Hindu symbols and ideas, because some hindu Mullah is protesting and harrassing them because of all kind of rubbish, and with them also millions of other young westerners who are made to belive that all Hindu are crackpots like that will loose interest. He is either an idiot or payed by the church to behave like one. He even protested against a harmless fiction movie that had a plot that was critical of the vatican and the catholic church in the name of Hinduism and interfaith solidarity. There was no mentioning of Hinduism in that movie it only depicted the reign of corruption and crime in the Vatican. I think this guy is payed to look for any Hindu symbol depicted or used in the west and he tries to eradicate as much Hindu symbolism as is possible to prevent Hinduisms spread in the west. Of course he is especially focussing to prevent celebs from associating with Hinduism or its symbols because their influence in the west is considerable.

In this case he is apparently harassing people who sell Hindu murtis for spiritual purposes of worship, the shop is called "Sacred source"

“Sacred Source”, based in Crozet near Charlottesville (Virginia), whose tagline is "Ancient Images, Ancient Wisdom", claims to be a leading producer and distributor of ancient deity images in North America, whose goals are to bring affordable museum reproduction and folk-handcraft deity images back into Western culture. Its mission statement includes: To nurture each individual's inner growth with the spiritual wisdom of ancient symbols and images.

I tell you this guy is an undercover evangelical trying to prevent people from bringing "deity images back into Western culture." In politics this is called an "inside job"

Darji
07 July 2010, 05:48 AM
Jai Siyaram

Well I believe there is not webpage for his organization because he IS the org.

http://rajanzed.com/rajan/

I do wonder who instated this power for him to talk for all of us, especially to come out of the blue like that. Perhaps we should write a letter from all of us asking him who ordained him to be the representative and voice for all Hindu's.

MahaHrada
07 July 2010, 05:54 AM
Jai Siyaram

Well I believe there is not webpage for his organization because he IS the org.

http://rajanzed.com/rajan/

I do wonder who instated this power for him to talk for all of us, especially to come out of the blue like that. Perhaps we should write a letter from all of us asking him who ordained him to be the representative and voice for all Hindu's.

It comes in quite handy for the catholic church to have their own Hindu spokesman, you can also praise your own church and christianity in the name of Hinduism, if you do a google search on rajan zed you will hear him almost constantly praising the church and christianity, this will make missionary work amongst Hindus much easier and praise always makes a good impression, doesnt it? The Church can also try to intervene in matter like that movie without the need to dirty their own hands. Let the Hindus make alll the idotic protests you wouldn&#180;t dare to do yourself. This is double feature pay for one get two :) Protest will not help since in the western media there are no Hindu lobbyist only christian.

Mostly the catholics prop the puppet: many articles like that you will find:
The Catholic Diocese of Reno has awarded a special certificate to internationally ...http://www.topnews.in/catholics-recognize-us-hindu-leader-rajan-zed-237533

If the Hindus listen to such guys they slowly transform Hinduism into Monotheism by inside jobs like this, the covert project is going on now for almost 200 years. Openly even Maoists and Communist terrorists are backed up by Christians, in Orissa they recently brutaly assasinated an influential Swami. When riots broke out because of that the media only blamend the Hindus. Allthewhile "Hindus" like Rajan Zed praise the Church and Christianity without mentioning any critics about the criminal methods of missionary activity at gunpoint that happen in India, in their "interfaith dialog" but fall in a frenzy when a spiritual shop sells Hindu murtis to westerners who like to worship them or keep them in theri home, because the color of the eyes are not correctly depicited or some such rubbish. In India the christian backed terroists hunt down and shoot the sadhus like in WB and in the west Rajan zed protests when a movie depicts crimes of the vatican.

Darji
07 July 2010, 06:26 AM
Personally, I'm not sure how these people selling murtis is wrong. In the west it is especially hard to find quality, inexpensive murtis. Honestly it's hard enough to find quality images as well. Is it because they themselves are not Hindu? They are helping support Indian economy with the manufacturing of these and are not making much profit as compared to say Lotus-Sculpture who has bronzes cast for a few rupees and resale them for thousands of dollars.

If I am wrong please enlighten me.

Darji
07 July 2010, 06:30 AM
Bhavna Shinde, of the Forum for Hindu Awakening, cited the example of one statue offered by Sacred Source that shows Shiva sitting cross-legged with a nude woman in his lap, facing him

Ok I can see where this might stir up a hornets nest, but the others?

MahaHrada
07 July 2010, 06:32 AM
Personally, I'm not sure how these people selling murtis is wrong. In the west it is especially hard to find quality, inexpensive murtis. Honestly it's hard enough to find quality images as well. Is it because they themselves are not Hindu? They are helping support Indian economy with the manufacturing of these and are not making much profit as compared to say Lotus-Sculpture who has bronzes cast for a few rupees and resale them for thousands of dollars.

If I am wrong please enlighten me.

Yes you are right these people, judging from their blurb seem to be very nice dedicated people, thats why this attack backs up my conspiracy theory about this so called Hindu very much. He cannot be that stupid,if it looks like a conspiracy, and smells like a conspiracy, than its most probably a conspiracy.

Eastern Mind
07 July 2010, 06:42 AM
Ok I can see where this might stir up a hornets nest, but the others?

Vannakkam: I viewed all of the murthis in question, and although there were no specifics mentioned in Zed's article, I think you are right. But if he is opposed to that, he should go take a look at some of the imagery on many gopurams in TN, and elsewhere. They would have to be demolished as well.

As far as Zed goes, he does find issues, but mostly he is just a self-promoter and I don't think he is really getting very far. His following would be rather small because most of us can think. The 'acclaimed' thing has to be a title he refers to himself with. I occasionally agree with him, but most of the time I find him totally irrelevant. I don't think he's being paid off by the Christians, but you never know. I wouldn't want to meet the guy, because I think he'd talk all the time about himself, and all the 'good' he's done.

Aum Namasivaya

Darji
07 July 2010, 06:43 AM
He cannot be that stupid it looks like a conspiracy it smells like a conspiracy, its most probably a conspiracy.

Many people have said this about GW Bush lol

You are right it does all seem pretty suspect, also has anyone also noticed how he makes these grand statements about these companies and then once this one statement gets the media rowed up, he makes no further comments?

I hope people are smart enough to know he only speaks for himself

Eastern Mind
07 July 2010, 06:51 AM
Vannakkam: the other article on here about him tells a much better story, how he doesn't return phone calls etc., and quoted a much better spokesman as not being upset. Maybe its time someone asked the press to please ignore the guy, but you know the press: controversy sells. I think at least if a few people made comments to the newspapers (probably already being done) he writes to (it may just be Associated Press, or some smaller 'news' group) to the contrary, it would provide a greater balance.

Aum Namasivaya

MahaHrada
07 July 2010, 06:59 AM
Many people have said this about GW Bush lol

You are right it does all seem pretty suspect, also has anyone also noticed how he makes these grand statements about these companies and then once this one statement gets the media rowed up, he makes no further comments?

I hope people are smart enough to know he only speaks for himself

No they won&#180;t especially many nice young westerners open to eastern ways will be disappointed by that quack and probably turn to Budhhism. The buddhist clean their house of fakes and charlatans and inside jobs very well.

MahaHrada
07 July 2010, 07:11 AM
Vannakkam: the other article on here about him tells a much better story, how he doesn't return phone calls etc., and quoted a much better spokesman as not being upset. Maybe its time someone asked the press to please ignore the guy, but you know the press: controversy sells. I think at least if a few people made comments to the newspapers (probably already being done) he writes to (it may just be Associated Press, or some smaller 'news' group) to the contrary, it would provide a greater balance.

Aum Namasivaya

That sounds good i will take a look at it, i personally would be happy if the media would ignore the guy, i don&#180;t mind him attending church, he can go to as many christian interfaith events he wants in his spare time :)

Eastern Mind
07 July 2010, 07:28 AM
Vannakkam:

I did a bit more research on the guy, and we are certainly not alone in our criticism. It seems that he has got himself into a position where if there is any faith-based story that might make it to the news, and a reporter rhetorically asks, "I wonder what the Hindus are thinking," they phone the guy up. They get his crazy answer, and then quote him as "Hindus are saying..." It sucks. I remember when we had a particularly community sensitive principal at our school, and he'd come into a staff meeting and say, 'People have been calling me about....." when in reality it was just one radical or crazy parent.

The problem with posting comments to refute him is that you have to register with the newspaper, provide email etc., and then this opens you up for more spam. But the one comment I read from an American went like this: "I guess its okay then for us to be butchering our white cows"

In other words, "Don't you have bigger fish to fry, man?" and the veiled racism prevalent in some westerners. Something like the 10 million settlement with McDonald's over falsely promoting their fries as vegetarian comes to mind.

Aum Namasivaya