Name change and astrology

[Daniellasaur]

I am going to start the process for changing my name, but the name I connect to most does not connect with my nakshatra. Is that okay? It should be, because I love the vibrations of Shanti Nandiswara and it has a lot of meaning to me. I want to make sure that it is okay because I would like a namakarna samskara. I emailed the priest a while ago but he has not emailed me back. Maybe I will talk to him in person about it. What do you think?

Namaste

[c.smith]

Hari Om!

Panditji at the Mandir I most often attend insists that one should consult vedic astrology before a change to ensure that the name does not conflict in any way. Two issues that I was very surprised by after the lengthy reading was that the name that I had chosen was not the best for me and also that the most favorable ishta for me was one that I had not even thought of. Of course I was disappointed, especially with the name because I had already started using it with close friends.

May I suggest that you visit the priest that you mentioned and perhaps another as well. Be sure to have exact information so the reading is accurate. My understanding is that even if the birth time if off by a few minutes, it will give inaccurate results.

Om Nanmah Sivaya
Jai Hanuman!

[Eastern Mind]

I am going to start the process for changing my name, but the name I connect to most does not connect with my nakshatra. Is that okay?

Namaste

Vannakkam Daniellasaur: I would emphasize the word 'process'. Such a process may take anywhere from a year to 10 years. It's reasonably arduous, at least in my experience, and should never be taken lightly. (I'm not implying you are.)

As far as the nakshatra goes, yes that is the traditional way. However, if you really feel connected to a particular name, then at least for me, that would override the nakshatra. Inner feelings of connectedness mean a ton. Please keep us informed. Best wishes.

Aum Namasivaya

[devotee]

Hari Om!

Panditji at the Mandir I most often attend insists that one should consult vedic astrology before a change to ensure that the name does not conflict in any way. Two issues that I was very surprised by after the lengthy reading was that the name that I had chosen was not the best for me and also that the most favorable ishta for me was one that I had not even thought of. Of course I was disappointed, especially with the name because I had already started using it with close friends.

May I suggest that you visit the priest that you mentioned and perhaps another as well. Be sure to have exact information so the reading is accurate. My understanding is that even if the birth time if off by a few minutes, it will give inaccurate results.

Om Nanmah Sivaya
Jai Hanuman!

You should not be worried about these, Smith ! In India, almost every Hindu has a name by which he/she is known and another one which is called the RAshi name given by the Pundit ji who makes the Janma-patri (birth chart). So, you can always have the name that you like. Regarding Ishta Devata too, please don't get bothered much. You should go by what your natural inclination guides you. These Devata, RAshi names etc. are used in Birth-charts & are important only for Match-making for marriage purposes and other SamskArs so that any natural incompatibility between the Devatas etc. may be avoided.

So, please relax on name, Ishta Devata etc. ... You can have what you like to have. Those things are for the Pundit ji & he will take care of it when the time for the SamskArs comes.

OM

[c.smith]

Hari Om Devotee!

Thank-you for the kind words. I wasn't aware of such and feel some relief.

In terms of the Ishta, I agree with you 100%. I believe that the Gods call for one reason or another and should not be ignored. I did however after some research find out just how meaningful and in line the suggestion was. Truly delighted because it fit more with goals and lifestyle without compromising my devotion to the original. He is simply an extension of or another form of my true God.

Secondly, as far as the name goes, I was only given letters that the names should start with, not full names. In that case it would make it easier to choose something both meaningful and to my liking though I truly appreciate your advice because it means that I don't have to do anything at all if I choose. So again, thanks!

Om Namah Sivaya
Jai Hanuman!

[Arjuni]

Namasté,

I have a question about name spelling, which I don't believe has been addressed on the forum before: Because English has a different alphabet than Sanskrit, how do you think it's best to approach names where the Western characters and Sanskrit sounds don't match?

(I'm placing the question here because, per nakṣatra, my name should begin with Kā. In fact, I'm seriously considering a full name with several ā letters.)

I use IAST because it matters to me to distinguish the sounds of Sanskrit, especially the ones that don't exist in English. I can write my name on personal stuff with all the "ā" I want, of course, but does anyone know if a legal name can include IAST characters?
If not, is it better to write out the long vowels as "aa," "ee," etc., even if it looks awkward and weird? Or just leave it, and spell the name how it looks best and is most easily pronounced on sight?

It sounds nitpicky even to me, but as a name is a serious choice, I figure it's worth inquiry - even if I look like a bonehead in the process. :o

Indraneela
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Oṁ Indrāya Namaḥ.
Oṁ Namaḥ Śivāya.

[NayaSurya]

Not bone headed at all...

Perhaps, absolutely magnificent<3

[yajvan]

hariḥ oṁ
~~~~~~

namast&#233;


my name should begin with Kā
Let's first talk of ka . It is said in mātṛkā order&#185; (arrangement) or sequencing sound/phonemes in saṃskṛtam, this ka is filled with pṛthivī tattva or earth (pṛthivī).

This ka क is the 1st consonant found in saṃskṛtam; There are 16 vowels owned by śiva and 34 consonents owned by śakti. That 1st consonent sound is ka. Now this ka is closely connected with kṣa as it is a reflection&#185; of it. And who is kṣa associated with ? Śakti, the energy of śiva. So what this says is pṛthivī tattva (ka) is filled with śakti (kṣa).

This ka in its gramatical use takes on the notion of 'who' or 'what'. Yet from a spiritual point of view its 3rd derivation it associated with brahman , prajāpati or of a prajāpati.

Also we may see kha, the second consonant of the alphabet. It is defined ( 3rd derivitive) as vacuity , empty space , air , ether , sky
and due to this is another name for brahma. We find both ka and kham reviewed in the bṛhadaraṇyaka upaniṣad.

Now kā का - we find it defined as the 'imitation of the cry of the ass (as in donkey)'. If we look to its 3rd derivitive it is rooted in √kan to seek , desire , yearn , love; it also is extended to mean 'to like , enjoy , be satisfied with '

From an astrological point of view this ka क is associated with Mars as is kha. To confuse the issue kha in the masculine gender is another name for the sun. That said, I find no application ( in my resource books) that offer kā का aligned to a graha ( planet) or nakṣatra . The only nakṣatra-s I see that is aligned with 'k' sound is:

ārdrā and it offers the following - kum, kham
punarvasū and it offers the following - kay and ko ( some may write kai and ku )
** See post 12 & 13 below for an update and corrections **From my point of view kha ख is very favorable as is ka क.

praṇām

words

mātṛkā - coming from or belonging to a mother; In our case it is the creative energy of sound, some may call parā vak or devī and
is affectionately known as the little mother.
There are two schemes or arrangments of sounds/phonemes . One is mātṛkā and the other is mālinī. Mālinī is She (devī) who wears a garland of letters ( a mālā) and this is the 50 sounds of saṃskṛtam.
One asks what is the difference of the two ? It is how the sounds are arranged , what order. Yet there is a deeper
difference that not many are aware of. Mātṛkā is absorptive, energetic and mālinī is emmission, cooling. Both are
complete in themselves and accordingly to abnavagupta-ji both are the nature of śiva and śakti.
reflection - this knowledge is that of bimba and its refection (pratibimba). bima is mirror ; pratibima is the reflected image

[Arjuni]

Namast&#233;,

I admit I was hoping for a reply from you, Yajvan; I knew you might have some beautiful insight on the sound(s) involved. Many thanks for your writings...

Now kā का - we find it defined as the 'imitation of the cry of the ass (as in donkey)'.
There are some who might find this a very appropriate name-beginning for me. :p

Jesting aside, I had read that those born in the third pada of Mṛgasira nakṣatra should have a name beginning with letter 'kaa,' which I (perhaps incorrectly) took to be "kā"?

It is in this sense of 'love' or 'desire' that I have often seen words and/or names beginning with "kā" translated. But perhaps the sense of 'seeking' or 'yearning' is the reason this letter is given? I have read that this is a primary personality trait or life goal of those born in this nakṣatra.

Indraneela
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Oṁ Indrāya Namaḥ.
Oṁ Namaḥ Śivāya.

[Tāṇḍava]

Namasté,

I have a question about name spelling, which I don't believe has been addressed on the forum before: Because English has a different alphabet than Sanskrit, how do you think it's best to approach names where the Western characters and Sanskrit sounds don't match?

(I'm placing the question here because, per nakṣatra, my name should begin with Kā. In fact, I'm seriously considering a full name with several ā letters.)

I use IAST because it matters to me to distinguish the sounds of Sanskrit, especially the ones that don't exist in English. I can write my name on personal stuff with all the "ā" I want, of course, but does anyone know if a legal name can include IAST characters?
If not, is it better to write out the long vowels as "aa," "ee," etc., even if it looks awkward and weird? Or just leave it, and spell the name how it looks best and is most easily pronounced on sight?

It sounds nitpicky even to me, but as a name is a serious choice, I figure it's worth inquiry - even if I look like a bonehead in the process. :o

Indraneela
===
Oṁ Indrāya Namaḥ.
Oṁ Namaḥ Śivāya.

This is a good question. In the UK a legal name cannot contain accented characters (or at least they are not allowed on your birth certificate, deed poll - the legal name change document, or passport). Of course in signatures, etc. you can put them. My Hindu name (not yet my legal name) is Tāṇḍava Nadesan.

I have often wondered if I should write my name in ASSCII in:



a way that corresponds to the IAST (Tandava Nadesan)
a way that is likely to be pronunced closely by most (Taanduvu Nudeysun)
or a way that looks right and sounds close (Taandava Nadesan)


Most of the time I just go with Tandava Nadesan, but I get some really strange pronunciations ("Tandaver Nadersan", with Naddersan rhyming with Patterson is very common in my part of the UK).

[Eastern Mind]

This is a good question. In the UK a legal name cannot contain accented characters (or at least they are not allowed on your birth certificate, deed poll - the legal name change document, or passport). Of course in signatures, etc. you can put them. My Hindu name (not yet my legal name) is Tāṇḍava Nadesan.

I have often wondered if I should write my name in ASSCII in:


a way that corresponds to the IAST (Tandava Nadesan)
a way that is likely to be pronunced closely by most (Taanduvu Nudeysun)
or a way that looks right and sounds close (Taandava Nadesan)
Most of the time I just go with Tandava Nadesan, but I get some really strange pronunciations ("Tandaver Nadersan", with Naddersan rhyming with Patterson is very common in my part of the UK).

Vannakkam: I've only ever seen Nadesan. Perhaps in Mauritius, where they went with the way the British (or French) heard it when the cane plantation owners brought in indentured labour, you get odd spellings. Like Rama becomes Ruma or Murugan became Moorghen.

I get Morgan a ton. I think the e gets a lot of people messed up, because in the universal transliteration it is as in weigh or way, but people from English often pronounce it as in let. My friend Nadesan here used to get Nad as in Pad then schwa, then anothe schwa, so it would be Nad _ s _ n or sometimes even Nad _ san, but rarely properly.

Murugan has been mangled in several ways. mur e gone being my favorite.

Aum Namasivaya

[yajvan]

hariḥ oṁ
~~~~~~

namast&#233;



Now kā का - we find it defined as the 'imitation of the cry of the ass (as in donkey)'.

If this kā का is attractive to you, A beautiful name could be nāyikā. It is a 'noble lady'; it also is the central gem of a necklace.
Devī at times is called by this name . Yet this name is still associated with pleasure and is associated with a mistress , courtezan.

It is still a form of śakti or durgā and some call out 8 forms: ugracaṇḍā , pracaṇḍā , caṇḍogrā , caṇḍanāyikā , aticaṇḍā , cāmuṇḍā ,
caṇḍā , and caṇḍavatī.

Regarding mṛgasira nakṣatra - ( begins in taurus and ends in gemini) - sanjay rath calls out ka and ki ( along with vae and vo). Now this ka is sometimes written as kay and ki is sometimes written kee. These sounds appear in the 3rd adn 4th pāda (part or quarter) of mṛgasira nakṣatra. Hence in my last post above I wrote:


The only nakṣatra-s I see that is aligned with 'k' sound is:

ārdrā and it offers the following - kum, kham
punarvasū and it offers the following - kay and ko ( some may write kai and ku )I stand corrected and did not see the phonemes of 'k' that align to mṛgasira. Hope this helps.
** post 13 below will assist with some final thoughts **

praṇām

[yajvan]

hariḥ oṁ

~~~~~~
namast&#233;


Regarding mṛgasira nakṣatra - ( begins in taurus and ends in gemini) - sanjay rath calls out ka and ki ( along with vae and vo). Now this ka is sometimes written as kay and ki is sometimes written kee. These sounds appear in the 3rd adn 4th pāda (part or quarter) of mṛgasira nakṣatra. Hence in my last post above I wrote:
I stand corrected and did not see the phonemes of 'k' that align to mṛgasira. Hope this helps.


I did not finish post 12 (above) properly. That is, the sounds that are offered ( that of 'k') for mṛgasira nakṣatra in
saṃskṛtam will tell us specifically of the sound. They are:

kā का - found in the 3rd pāda
kī की - found in the 4th pāda If we look at how people write sounds in English that represent saṃskṛtam , we will usually be mis-taken. So we do have
a long 'ā' in kā का that is offered in th 3rd pāda of mṛgasira nakṣatra.

I hope this minimizes any confusion I may have contributed.


praṇām