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    Stages Leading to the Appearance of divine love
    The third stage - bhajana-kriya

    Sri-guru-pada-ashraya - Taking shelter at the lotus feet of Guru III

    Srila Jiva Gosvami examines guru tattva...
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    Re: Stages Leading to the Appearance of divine love

    Stages Leading to the Appearance of divine love

    Sri-guru-pada-ashraya - Taking shelter at the lotus feet of Guru


    In Hari-bhakti-vilāsa (4.360) it is stated:

    harau ruşţe gurus trātā gurau...
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    Re: Stages Leading to the Appearance of divine love

    Adau duSTa guru prAptih / pUtanA stanya sAyini
    VAtyA rUpa kutarkas tu / tRNAvarta itIritaH

    Sri kRSNa saMhitA 8.14

    Persons who are on the meditational path of attachment (ragAnuga) should...
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    Re: Sri Krishna's instructions to Sanatan

    Madhya 22.91-94

    varaḿ huta-vaha-jvālā-
    pajarāntar-vyavasthitiḥ
    na śauri-cintā-vimukha-
    jana-saḿvāsa-vaiśasam

    It is better to be inside of a cage - varam vyavasthitiḥ antaḥ pajara ...
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    Re: Sri Krishna's instructions to Sanatan

    Madhya 22.85-90

    ata ātyantikaḿ kṣemaḿ
    pṛcchāmo bhavato 'naghāḥ
    saḿsāre 'smin kṣaṇārdho 'pi
    sat-sańgaḥ sevadhir nṛṇām

    Therefore, o sinless one, I ask you - ataḥ anaghāḥ...
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    Dandavat jopmala,

    well, karma (prescribed activity) is the activity according one's dharma (prescribed duty), the other possibilities are vikarma and akarma.
    The prescribed duty according...
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    Re: Sri Krishna's instructions to Sanatan

    Dandavat jopmala,

    In my understanding in the sloka below

    'śraddhā'-śabde viśvāsa kahe sudṛḍha niścaya
    kṛṣṇe bhakti kaile sarva-karma kṛta haya

    we have almost the same meaning...
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    Re: Sri Krishna's instructions to Sanatan

    Madhya 22.81-84

    titikṣavaḥ kāruṇikāḥ
    suhṛdaḥ sarva-dehinām
    ajāta-śatravaḥ śāntāḥ
    sādhavaḥ sādhu-bhūṣaṇāḥ

    The jewel of all spiritual realized persons bhūṣaṇāḥ sādhu ...
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    danadavat,

    from a vaishnava point of view, there may be worldy faith or transcendental faith.
    In his presenting the stages leading to the appearance of love, when rerferring...
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    The third stage - bhajana-kriya

    By which one practices the limbs of bhajana (bhajana-kriya)
    beginning with sri-guru-padashraya taking shelter of the feet of the spiritual master.

    1)...
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    Re: Sri Krishna's instructions to Sanatan

    Madhya 22.77-80

    sei saba guṇa haya vaiṣṇava-lakṣaṇa
    saba kahā nā yāya, kari dig-daraśana

    kṛpālu, akṛta-droha, satya-sāra sama
    nidoṣa, vadānya, mṛdu, śuci, akicana
    ...
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    Re: Stages Leading to the Appearance of divine love

    The third stage - bhajana-kriya

    By which one practices the limbs of bhajana (bhajana-kriya)
    beginning with sri-guru-padashraya – taking shelter of the feet of the spiritual master.

    1)...
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    Re: Sri Krishna's instructions to Sanatan

    Caitanya Caritamrita 2.22.63-70


    yathā taror mūla-niṣecanena
    tṛpyanti tat-skandha-bhujopaśākhāḥ
    prāṇopahārāc ca yathendriyāṇāḿ
    tathaiva sarvārhaṇam acyutejyā

    As the trunk, the...
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    Second stage: Sadhu-sanga

    Sadhu-sanga is of two types: the association of siddha-mahapurusas, or perfected souls,
    - who pursue the path of knowledge (jana-marga)
    and the association of...
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    Madhya 22.56-62

    kṛṣṇa kṛpālu arjunere lakṣya kariyā
    jagatere rākhiyāchena upadeśa diyā

    Krişna is so merciful that by addressing Arjuna - kṛṣṇa kṛpālu lakṣya kariyā arjunere
    He...
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    Re: Stages Leading to the Appearance of divine love

    Second stage: sadhu-sanga

    As stated in Śrī Caitanya Caritāmṛta Madhya 22.47:

    kṛṣṇa yadi kṛpā kare kona bhāgyavāne
    guru-antaryāmi-rūpe śikhāya āpane

    If Krishna shows mercy - yadi...
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    Madhya 22.51-55

    mahat-kṛpā vinā kona karme 'bhakti' naya
    kṛṣṇa-bhakti dūre rahu, saḿsāra nahe kṣaya

    Without the mercy of the realized devotee - vinā kṛpā mahat
    whatever one does is...
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    Madhya 22.49-50

    sādhu sańge kṛṣṇa bhaktye śraddhā yadi haya
    bhakti phala prema haya saḿsāra yāya kṣaya

    If one practices bhakti (yoga) (sadhan bhakti) (to attain) Krishna in the...
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    Re: Stages Leading to the Appearance of divine love

    Second stage: sadhu-sanga

    In Śrī Caitanya Caritāmṛta Madhya 19.151 it is stated:

    brahmāṇḍa bhramite kona bhāgyavān jīva
    guru-kṛṣṇa-prasāde pāya bhakti-latā-bīja

    Wandering in the...
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    Madhya 22.47-48

    kṛṣṇa yadi kṛpā kare kona bhāgyavāne
    guru-antaryāmi-rūpe śikhāya āpane

    If Krishna shows mercy to some fortunate person - yadi kṛṣṇa kare kṛpā kona bhāgyavāne
    he...
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    Re: Stages Leading to the Appearance of divine love

    Second stage: sadhu-sanga

    In Śrī Caitanya Caritāmṛta Madhya 22.83 it is stated:

    kṛṣṇa-bhakti-janma-mūla haya 'sādhu-sańga'
    kṛṣṇa-prema janme, teńho punaḥ mukhya ańga

    The root...
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    Madhya 22.43-46

    samsara bhramite kona bhagye keha tare
    nadira pravahe yena kashtha lage tire

    Wandering in the material existence, - bhramite samsara
    by good fortune (due to destiny) -...
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    Madhya 22.40-42

    satyaḿ diśaty arthitam arthito nṛṇāḿ
    naivārthado yat punar arthitā yataḥ
    svayaḿ vidhatte bhajatām anicchatām
    icchāpidhānaḿ nija-pāda-pallavam Srimad-Bhagavatam...
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    Sadhu-sanga II

    The second stage is sadhu-sanga – the association with the holly persons

    One gets on this stage when the first stage – shraddha had matured.
    And as such one seeks...
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    Re: Sri Krishna's instructions to Sanatan

    Madhya 22.34-39

    sakṛd eva prapanno yas
    tavāsmīti ca yācate
    abhayaḿ sarvadā tasmai

    (The Supreme Lord Rama says (recorded in Rāmāyaṇa (Yuddha-kāṇḍa 18.33))
    This is My vow - etat...
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    Madhya 22.31-33

    kṛṣṇa — sūrya-sama; māyā haya andhakāra
    yāhāń kṛṣṇa, tāhāń nāhi māyāra adhikāra

    Krişna is simlar to the sun - kṛṣṇa sama sūrya
    The illusory energy is darkness -...
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    Re: Stages Leading to the Appearance of divine love

    Regarding the first stage, shraddha, Sri Krishna says to Uddhava, as recorded in Śrīmad Bhāgavatam 11.20.9

    tāvat karmāṇi kurvīta
    na nirvidyeta yāvatā
    mat-kathā-śravaṇādau vā
    śraddhā...
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    Dandavat yajvan,

    In the translation of the shloka 1.2.6 from Şrimad Bhagavatam the world transcendental was put in brakets.
    This indicates that the word paro, which was translated by "the...
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    Madhya 8.272-275

    prabhu kahe, kṛṣṇe tomāra gāḍha-prema haya
    premāra svabhāva ei jāniha niścaya

    The Lord said: Your love for Krishna is deep - prabhu kahe prema tomāra kṛṣṇe haya...
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    Dandavat Yajvan,

    Nitya dharma ist carried out in the transcendent, otherwise it won't be called nitya- eternal.

    2.10.6 from Srimad Bhagavatam

    nirodho 'syAnuzayanam AtmanaH saha zaktibhiH...
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    Dandavat yajvan,

    Sadhana Bhakti:

    kṛti-sādhyā bhavet sādhya-bhāvā sā sādhanābhidhā |
    nitya-siddhasya bhāvasya prākaṭyaṁ hṛdi sādhyatā ||1.2.2||

    "When the goal of the activities of the...
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    Dandavat yajvan,

    An object is called a vastu, and its eternal nature is known as its nitya-dharma.

    The word vastu is derived from the Sanskrit verbal root vas, which means to exist, or...
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    27-30

    mukha-bāhūru-pādebhyaḥ puruṣasyāśramaiḥ saha
    catvāro jajire varṇā guṇair viprādayaḥ pṛthak

    'From the mouth, arms, waist and the legs of the Supreme Lord - mukha bāhu ūru...
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    Re: Stages Leading to the Appearance of divine love

    Sri Krishna says to Uddhava, as recorded in Śrīmad Bhāgavatam 11.20.8

    yadṛcchayā mat-kathādau
    jāta-śraddhas tu yaḥ pumān
    na nirviṇṇo nāti-sakto
    bhakti-yogo 'sya siddhi-daḥ

    If by...
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    24-26

    'kṛṣṇa-nitya-dāsa' jīva tāhā bhuli' gela
    ei doṣe māyā tāra galāya bāndhila

    The living entity has forgtten that he is an eternal servant of Krishna - jīva tāhā bhuli nitya dāsa...
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    Re: Stages Leading to the Appearance of divine love

    AlthoughTranscendental faith is the first stage on the road of attaining the divine love (prema),
    the amount of transcendental faith grows, as the devotee gets closer to his goal.

    Sri Krishna...
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    Re: Sri Krishna's instructions to Sanatan

    22-23

    Sri Caitanya quotes further from Bhagavat Puran (10.14.4):

    sreyah-sritim bhaktim udasya te vibho
    klisyanti ye kevala-bodha-labdhaye
    tesham asau klesala eva sishyate
    nanyad yatha...
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    20-21

    tapasvino dāna-parā yaśasvino
    manasvino mantra-vidaḥ su-mańgalāḥ
    kṣemaḿ na vindanti vinā yad-arpaṇaḿ
    tasmai subhadra-śravase namo namaḥ

    Those engaged in austerities and...
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    18-19

    ei saba sadhanera ati tuccha bala
    krishna-bhakti vina taha dite nare phala

    All these practices have an insignificant power.- ei saba sadhanera bala ati tuccha
    without Bhakti for...
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    Re: Sri Krishna's instructions to Sanatan

    Vers 16-17

    kāmādīnāḿ kati na katidhā pālitā durnideśās
    teṣāḿ jātā mayi na karuṇā na trapā nopaśāntiḥ
    utsṛjyaitān atha yadu-pate sāmprataḿ labdha-buddhis
    tvām āyātaḥ śaraṇam...
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    Vers 9-15

    svāḿśa-vistāra catur-vyūha, avatāra-gaṇa
    vibhinnāḿśa jīvatāńra śaktite gaṇana

    The expansions of His personal forms are quadruple expansions (Sańkarṣaṇ, Pradyumna,...
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    Dandavat,

    I personally don't like some of the translations ... on that site.
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    Re: Gaudiya Vaishnava Dharma - The goal of life

    Madhya 8.267-271

    eka saḿśaya mora āchaye hṛdaye
    kṛpā kari' kaha more tāhāra niścaye

    There is doubt in my heart - āchaye eka saḿśaya hṛdaye mora
    Be merciful upon me and explain Me...
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    Re: Sri Krishna's instructions to Sanatan

    Vers 7-8

    advaya tattva kṛṣṇa svayaḿ bhagavān
    svarūpa śakti rūpe tāńra haya avasthāna

    Krişna is the Supreme Lord Himself - kṛṣṇa svayaḿ bhagavān
    (and) philosophical principle of...
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    Sri Krishna's instructions to Sanatan

    Sanatan Şiskşa - Sri Krshna Caitanya's instructions to Sanatan Goswami

    Vers 1-6

    vande śrī-kṛṣṇa-caitanya- devaḿ taḿ karuṇārṇavam
    kalāv apy ati-gūḍheyaḿ bhaktir yena prakāśitā
    ...
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    Re: Stages Leading to the Appearance of divine love

    Namaste yajvan,

    you are right, without knowledge of the self, one cannot speak about full surrender.
    At the same time knowledge of the self is not bhakti.
    A prerequisite for bhakti is not...
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    namast

    Note that this instruction comes in the 18th chapter... to begin here withoutfulfilling the instructions that are found in chapters 2,3,4,5 & 6 willleave one in a quandary ( at...
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    namaste anirudh,

    I wanted to say, that any dharma according one's social and sacral order, except para-dharma, implies more or less faith in the activities related to this world.

    Para-dharma...
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    Re: Stages Leading to the Appearance of divine love

    (1) Shraddha – transcendental faith

    The Supreme Lord in His Krishna form says that one should renounce the worldly faith in any type of dharma:

    sarva-dharmān parityajya / mām ekaḿ...
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    Re: Stages Leading to the Appearance of divine love

    dandavat dear jopmala,

    When one attains prem bhakti, one gets the association of the Lord
    in one's perfect body - siddha deha.
    A person who attained the stage of prem bhakti,
    will never be...
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