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    Re: vaishnava sampradaya

    Pranam indialover


    I think you should not become personal by arguing that I am trying to grasp mysticism by brain. How I want to grasp mysticism is not the issue here. The issue is why we...
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    Re: vaishnava sampradaya

    Praam indialover


    OK,you are saying that everythihng and every living entity including lord brahma and lord shiva are non different from vishnu. everything is manifestation or expansion of...
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    vaishnava sampradaya

    Namaste


    It is said that to be a vaishnava one must belong to any one of the four authorized sampradaya. These authorized four sampradaya are :
    1 Sri sampradaya : said to...
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    Re: How can maya lead to knowledge of brahman

    Namaste Dutta

    What I mean is there in my post itself. Can you explain what is physical and what is non physical?

    Ok, I can reiterate my point. We want to realize Brahma and for this...
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    Re: Description of brahman in Bhagavad Gita

    namste dutta
    It seems from your post that you are very much keen on logic so may I know by what logic you have concluded that I quoted from prabhupad’s translation.


    Secondly, I quote you...
  6. Re: hare krishna mahamantra and chanting on beads

    Pranam markandeya 108 dasaji

    Thank you for giving me some important points but what I actually mean is that gaudiya math and mission orgns have not carried out the vaishnab dharma of sri chaitanya...
  7. hare krishna mahamantra and chanting on beads

    pranam

    Organisations under the umbrella of gaudiya math and mission ( iskcon etc) preaches that chaitanya mahaprabhu recommends chanting of hare krishna mahamantra which originates in kali...
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    Re: How can maya lead to knowledge of brahman

    Pranam
    Yajvanji, its ok you don't want to go deep in thos points. I think it is not wise to mingle different points of view against one point.
    Now I want to know who is Shiva. Is Shiva nirguna...
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    Re: How can maya lead to knowledge of brahman

    Pranam Yajvanji

    I accept that I am too late to respond but that does not dilute my contention. if “actions ( right actions ) are important to one's development as they purifiy one's perception...
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    Re: How can maya lead to knowledge of brahman

    pranam


    I am confused over your statement that ‘ not made’ can not be obtained by ‘made up’ means. If your ‘made up means’ indicate karma or actions , I do not agree with you at this statement....
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    Re: How can maya lead to knowledge of brahman

    Namaste yajvanji

    have you finished your reply or will you answer question No 5 which is left so far
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    Re: How can maya lead to knowledge of brahman

    Namaste Yajvanji

    You have explained the teaching of taittiriyopanishad and I think all our scriptures try to explain the relationship of Brahman jiva jagat and maya. My point was if the doors...
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    Re: How can maya lead to knowledge of brahman

    Namaste soul of light


    I respect your thoughts but the basic point is you can not control maya in the form of budhhi or mind. Maya does not hear you.
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    Re: How can maya lead to knowledge of brahman

    Namaste Markandeya dasaji


    I appreciate you for your straight forward approach to the issue. But maya acts like a magician so far advaita philosophy is concerned. Magician creates confusion and...
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    How can maya lead to knowledge of brahman

    Namaste

    Taittiriya upanishad sloka 1 of chapter I part III ( Bhrigu valli) (translated by swami Gambhirananda)

    First part of the verse says that when Bhrigu approached his father...
  16. NIRGUN NIRAKAN BRAHMAN IS NOT THE BE ALL OR END ALL IN BHAGAVAT GITA

    Namaste

    Gita verse 29 of chapter 5 states “ And having known ME, who am the Dispenser of all sacrifices and austerities, the Great Lord of al worlds, the Friend of all beings he (yogi) attains...
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    Re: sri krishna is real not illusion

    Namaste

    In chapter 11 of Bhagavad Gita sri Krishna shows viswarupa to Arjune. Now believer of advaita school of thought questioning whether it is possible or not and at the end of their argument...
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    sri krishna is real not illusion

    Namaste

    BG verse 4.6 sri Krishna says “ I am not bound by the cycles of birth, and am immortal and Lord of all beings. Yet remaining steadfast in my own nature, I come into being through my own...
  19. Re: Who/What is KUTastha : Bhagwad Gita Verse 16, chapter-15

    Namaste devotee

    I do not know what benefit you want from discussion. you want everybody should accept your views only, your views are only logical so what ever you say that is final. With your...
  20. Re: Who/What is KUTastha : Bhagwad Gita Verse 16, chapter-15

    Namaste devotee


    May be the thread started by you but I just wanted yajvanji’s interpretation of verse 3 of chap 12 where the identity of akshar kutastha is mentioned very clearly and in the...
  21. Re: Who/What is KUTastha : Bhagwad Gita Verse 16, chapter-15

    Namaste

    I never say that BG is proprietory article of Gaudiya Vaishnabism nor I belong to any Gaudiya Vaishnab’s sect but yes I still believe that BG is a bhaktivadi scripture which has a chapter...
  22. Re: Who/What is KUTastha : Bhagwad Gita Verse 16, chapter-15

    Namaste Yajvanji




    I respect the meaning of kutastha offered by you as standing at the top , keeping the highest position; immovable , uniform , unchangeable. It is abiding in the highest....
  23. Re: Who/What is KUTastha : Bhagwad Gita Verse 16, chapter-15

    Namaste yajvanji

    please clarify who is referred to akshara kutastha in verse 3 of chapter 12 of BG
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    PURUSHOTTAM TATTVA IN BG

    Namaste to all

    In Chapter 15 of Bhagavad Gita sri Krishna has imparted to Arjune the most secret doctrine.

    Verse 16 says “In this world there are two kinds of purushas – perishable (kshara)...
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    Re: Description of brahman in Bhagavad Gita

    Namaste to all


    Bhagavad Gita accepted the various established paths of practicing spirituality like vedic karmavada, Upanishadic brahmanvada or jnanvada, chaturashram principle of the smriti...
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    Re: Description of brahman in Bhagavad Gita

    Namste

    Jiva has originated from Brahman, move towards Brahman and will eventually merge in Brahman. Jiva loves bhagavan and similarly bhagavan loves the jivas. Jiva wants to realize bhagavan...
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    Description of brahman in Bhagavad Gita

    Namaste to all

    In verse 12 of chapter 13 of BG, sri Krishna says “ I will now describe what one should know and knowing which one will attain moksh. It is Brahman , MY attributeless aspect...
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    Re: BRAHMA IN BHAGAVAT GITA

    Namaste devotee


    I know that you have nothing more to offer
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    Re: BRAHMA IN BHAGAVAT GITA

    Finally, do not accuse me of shiftingI the point of discussion. You bring new new interpretation which arises new questions. This time you have brought Radha. But I am least interested to discuss...
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    Re: BRAHMA IN BHAGAVAT GITA

    Namaste devotee

    All the verses I quoted in my earlier post involve some activities towards sri Krishna. Brahman without form name attributes is not fit for such actitivities. Nirgun nirakar...
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    Re: BRAHMA IN BHAGAVAT GITA

    Namaste devotee


    If you say , “prakriti is not different from God/Iswar/Brahman/Lord Krishna” or “prakariti is considered not separate from god” means “ prakriti is not an independent entity...
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    Re: BRAHMA IN BHAGAVAT GITA

    namaste devotee

    Like you, I was also very busy. I will be able to respond to very shortly
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    Re: BRAHMA IN BHAGAVAT GITA

    Namaste devotee

    First , I have already pointed out the differences between samkhya and advaita on BG which you disagree.no further comment.

    what do you mean by "sri krishna and his prakriti...
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    Re: BRAHMA IN BHAGAVAT GITA

    Namaste devotee

    Since you have said that BG is basically knowledge of jnan yoga or as you think that BG is for imparting jnan erc etc. if you accept that the verses of BG are coming directly...
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    Re: BRAHMA IN BHAGAVAT GITA

    Namaste devotee

    I have gone through your post and I have some points to make before you.

    You are telling that samkhya does not accept any third agency which is god and its creative...
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    Re: BRAHMA IN BHAGAVAT GITA

    Namaste devotee

    let me study your post on samkhya
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    Re: BRAHMA IN BHAGAVAT GITA

    Namaste devotee

    I would expect from you too the respect you want from me. now please go ahead with your listed points. lets continue our discussion.
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    Re: BRAHMA IN BHAGAVAT GITA

    You have accused me of being tethered to one style of thinking. Is it not applicable to you too ? You always accuse the bhaktas of abusing denigrating other paths . if you do not find any jnani...
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    Re: BRAHMA IN BHAGAVAT GITA

    Namste devotee

    I don’t want to be in the business of blamegaming. I have no hesitation to say sorry if my words hurt you. But since you have written so many observations on my style , language...
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    Re: BRAHMA IN BHAGAVAT GITA

    namaste devotee

    I am sorry to say that I have quoted verse 12/13 wrongly. you have said correct that it should be brahman is neither sat nor asat. Maya is also defined as neither sat nor asat by...
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    Re: BRAHMA IN BHAGAVAT GITA

    Namaste devotee

    It is not arrogance. it is assertion of belief with confidence. you can not escape so easily. I will not let you go. I shall be waiting for every points you have noted below in...
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    Re: BRAHMA IN BHAGAVAT GITA

    Devoteeji Namaste

    I just laughed at your imaginative explanation of the verses of BG which is seen or read nowhere in this world. I am challenging you if you can show me one name of any...
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    Re: BRAHMA IN BHAGAVAT GITA

    Namaste devotee

    I am sorry to say that I am not in the business of any deal with sri Krishna bhagavan be it big deal or small deal. If we are already staying within him then where is the...
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    Re: BRAHMA IN BHAGAVAT GITA

    Namaste devotee




    Sorry, I can not stop laughing reading your latest post. See, I do not find any difference between your translation of verses and mine but the way you are trying to explain...
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    Re: BRAHMA IN BHAGAVAT GITA

    With reference to verse 10/5, I would like to know from you as to how karma will be founded or consigned to Brahman since Brahman is nirgun nirakar. I think this verse is to be linked with 3/30....
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    Re: BRAHMA IN BHAGAVAT GITA

    Namaste devotee


    My interpretation of verse 2 to 5 of chapter 12 is right. You have to understand the question on verse 1 put by arjune which says who is superior ( ke yogabittama) between...
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    Re: BRAHMA IN BHAGAVAT GITA

    Namaste devotee,

    Actually your “alone” word has misled me to understand that you meant worshiper and not the goal. But now it is clear that by “ alone” you did not mean the worshiper but the...
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    Re: BRAHMA IN BHAGAVAT GITA

    Namaste devotee

    Actually your post has tempted me to write so many things but I am getting hard to manage time .

    I shall want to know which sanskrit word in 12.3 and 12.4 verses of BG do...
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    Re: BRAHMA IN BHAGAVAT GITA

    Namaste devotee

    Welcome back. I am pleased to have discussion with you . But now I would like to put one straight question to you in particular and all worshiper of unmanifested brahma in...
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    Re: BRAHMA IN BHAGAVAT GITA

    Namaste devotee

    It is quite clear from your post that the points raised by me regarding basic advaita concept have no support in the Bhagvad Gita but are supported by Upanishad. I am surprised...
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