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  1. Thread: Dream

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    Namaste Devotee,

    I agree, with a small observation and caution. The One is not ALL or The ONE has not become All, as is explained in VA. But ONE is transcendentally eternally ONE WITHOUT A SECOND...
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    Namaste Devotee,

    Sarabhanga has written an extremely subtle piece elsewhere. I have added a few words and placed it here. You may like to comment whether this is how all views of ours emerge --...
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    I agree.

    Mandukya itself says that one may see OM as AUM, in three padas. But isn't Om single syllabled ONE? Yes. Mandukya says that also.



    Thank you for the opportunity to explain as to...
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    Re: Sarveshvara

    Namaste Rajalakshmi,



    I said: Hiranyagarbha is Brahman seen under Avidya mode. In that mode my office boss also says "I am the controller".




    Sarabhaga and myself have discussed...
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    Namaste Rajalakshmi,

    Fine. I will make a few alterations that will not change the essential meaning of what you have posted.

    Turya is intelligence without self awareness - it is awareness...
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    Re: Sarveshvara

    Namaste Sarabhanga Ji,

    Yes. Ghana, as most Hindi/Bengali speaking will know is dense, which when prefixed by 'Intelligence', which is spiritual, can only mean partless pure intelligence. It is...
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    Re: Sarveshvara

    Namaste Sarabhanga Ji and Others,

    The Third Sarvesvara is praGYaanaghana evaanandamayo as per Mandukya. The indescribable Fourth, the Self (called as Samaan as indicatory but really Neti-Neti) is...
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    Namaste Devotee,

    We have reached good and mature agreements, one last difference pending.

    WRT the third pada, the description in Mandukya is:

    Where the sleeper desires not a thing of...
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    Namaste Rajalakshmi,

    I repeat that the Women are the verses.

    I have talked of Brahmloka of Brahma Sutras, Chandogya Upanishad, and Brihadarayanaka. From that loka one does not return, but is...
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    Namaste Devotee,

    This is the only point of mis-understanding and it is crucial. The Seamless Turya is never missing but is hidden by Adhyasha -- by movement of thoughts starting with "I am...
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    Re: Dream: Bhuma Vidya and Chāndogya Upanishad

    Namaskar Devotee,



    I agree.



    I agree with one reservation. The Self as non-dual is 'Satya of Satya' while Self animating three states as life force is Satya. His three states are His...
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    Namaste Rajalaksmi,

    How do you know that you slept well, though in deep sleep you knew nothing? The verse above contains the answer. It says "having realized----". When Vamadeva is speaking, He...
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    Namaste Rajalakshmi,

    The fifth is a Vedic knowledge and I can post the verses.

    But consider that you can do Agni Dharana by attaining Agni's form. Then you come back and live fearlessly,...
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    Namaste Rajalakshmi,

    Thank you for your nice post.

    I request your attention to: "---as turIya is also not the ultimate state". I say that Turya is a state, when viewed as part of four states,...
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    Namaste Devotee,

    Let me put a counter question. How and why Lord comes as Guru and Avatara, if He is not aware of pain and suffering within His being?

    Om
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    Namaste Devotee,

    By asking whether there is a second 'conscious being' or not, I wished to indicate that the pin pricks are known by the Pragnya of Turya alone. Turya (and its Pragnya) being...
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    Namaste Rajalakshmi,

    Is Turya ever asleep? It can be known in momentary gaps (as Yajvan ji points out). Perhaps you wish to mean that 'when one is awake to Turya one is fully awake'?

    Regards...
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    Namaste and Regards,

    Regards for your clarity of understanding. It is incredible.

    Waking, dream, and deep sleep states are states of thought, while Turya is beyond the mind and thoughts...
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    Namaste Devotee,

    Thank You very much for the questions and also for the explanations, which explain a lot of things. The above explanation however does not fully satisfy me for three reasons.
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    Namaste Devotee,

    Excellent Vichara.

    There is a questioner here (as in every man questioning). As per me, the surprises are to the questioner. In most cases (may be 99.99%), the questioner...
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