Hi all

[vedanta_learner]

Hi every one,

I am new to this forum, and interested to learn some philosophical matters from all of you guys.
Thanks to admins of this forum for giving me a chance to learn the invaluable knowldge of Hindu dharma.

[Agnideva]

Hi every one,
I am new to this forum, and interested to learn some philosophical matters from all of you guys.

Namaste Vedanta Learner,

Welcome to HDF . What school of Vedanta are you learning from?

OM Shanti,
A.

[vedanta_learner]

Namaste Vedanta Learner,

Welcome to HDF . What school of Vedanta are you learning from?

OM Shanti,
A.

Thanks Agnideva, I belong to no particular school, I want to learn all the Hindu philosophical concepts like Advaita,VA,Dvaita..

[satay]

Thanks Agnideva, I belong to no particular school, I want to learn all the Hindu philosophical concepts like Advaita,VA,Dvaita..

namaste vedanta_learner (aren't we all! I like your handle) and welcome to the Hindu Dharma Forums.

May I ask why you want to learn about the different philosophical concepts of dharma, what is the purpose of your study?

Also, please share your background with the rest of the members (if you would like).

looking forward to your posts...

Hare Krishna!

[vedanta_learner]

namaste vedanta_learner (aren't we all! I like your handle) and welcome to the Hindu Dharma Forums.

May I ask why you want to learn about the different philosophical concepts of dharma, what is the purpose of your study?

Also, please share your background with the rest of the members (if you would like).

looking forward to your posts...

Hare Krishna!

Thank you Satay,

My answer would be "to know the exact truth".

I am not being happy always..but I want, I don't understand what exactly I want , then araised a question why do I need happiness? who am I ? why all living beings are always try for happiness in some way?
like above no.of questions are in my mind..in the way I came to know about Hindu dharma is to be most ancient , authentic and can answer many of my questions and can show right path to me to become a peaceful and heppiest person for ever.

I know little about Hindu philosophy like Advaita , VA, Dvaita and think these systems could clarify my doubts and show me a path .

But I have many doubts regading these Hindu philosophical thoughts also..why there are many why can't be there a single conecpt..so I need to clarify all my doubts.

I think our DB members can help me.

Thank you.

[Agnideva]

But I have many doubts regading these Hindu philosophical thoughts also..why there are many why can't be there a single conecpt..so I need to clarify all my doubts.

Namaste Vedanta Learner,

Based on your current understanding, why do you believe there are so many philosophical positions in Hinduism? Just curious to hear your thoughts...

OM Shanti,
A.

[vedanta_learner]

Namaste Vedanta Learner,

Based on your current understanding, why do you believe there are so many philosophical positions in Hinduism? Just curious to hear your thoughts...

OM Shanti,
A.

Namaste Agnideva,

Ok..let me explain my understanding about philosophical concepts first.

I think there are three main categories in Hindu philosophy as far as I know, Advaita(monoism), VisishtAdvaita , Dvaita , beside these three there are some other concepts which are not more popular e.g: Bhedabheda etc.,

Advaita's main concept is "Brahma satyam, jagan midhya..jeevo Brahmaiva na parah"

so as per Advaita concept..Brahman is the only truth(I want to know what exactly means "Satyam") and the world what we are looking at is just midhya or relative truth, finally Jeeva is none other than Brahman.

come to the VA concept, where there is only Brahman is eternal but having the Chit,achit(which have different swaroopa from Brahman)as his sareera(which is not seperable from Brahman ever).

In deep, there are lots of differences between Advaita and VA , like regarding swaroopa , roopa of Brahman etc.,

Dvaita is the concept which tells us that there is an eternal distinction between Brahman and jeevatman.

So my problem is , after choosing the one of the concepts discussed here ,I could move further in achieving the goal( Advaita has the goal of realinzing my own self which is nothing but Brahman, where as VA and Dvaita have the Brahman as goal who is different from my self and self of my self).

So problem seems simple , but it is really serious for me..if I choose Advaita concept as true Vedanta concept then I could try to realize my "self" , which is just conciousness . if I choose VA or Dvaita path , I have to surrender my self to Brahman who can take care of my "self"..so what exactly is Vedas tell us ?

If I choose the path of Advaita , could I be Blissful, peaceful for ever?
else if I choose VA or Dvaita (seems similar paths to me) , could I be blissful and peaceful for ever?

if both ways can lead me to eternal state..then it doesn't mean that Advaita is the correct concept of Vedas ,and VA , Dvaita are subsets of Advaita.

But even if Advaita is exact truth of Vedanta..then I will have lots of doubts .

So my first goal is to get answers for all of my doubts , then follow some path .

Thank you.

[sm78]

Vedas tells us to do Tapas and realize the Brahman.
It also tells us to live an excellent life on earth at all levels.

AV, VA etc also ultimately tells the same ... but they (AV and VA practioners) spend a lot of time arguing about Brahman before realizing it.

My approach is to stay out of it all ~ u decide what u want to do.

Also classical vedantic philosophies are not all of Hinduism. They must be the majority ... but we have significant number of Shavia and Shakta hindu's who believe in Vedas & Gita but not the orthodox philosophies of the latter days. They rely on their own Shiddhanta about Truth which God Shiva has gracefully expounded in Agamas and Tantras as an answer to many questions of our age.

[sm78]

"to know the exact truth".

To know Trutht u have to do Tapas ... there is no other way

"..why there are many why can't be there a single conecpt..."

Because God has 1000 heads .

[Agnideva]

Namaste Vedanta Learner,

Philosophies are rational means constructed by humans to understand what is really not understandable in the common sense of the word. Every philosopher (and his followers) says he is the only one who is right, and everyone else is wrong. Different philosophies are just different ways of understanding. How do we know any of them are really true? We simply don’t. Every philosophy in existence was described by some great realized man or woman. How could some have been right and some have been wrong? I would say that each one saw the truth from a different angle. No one is absolutely right, no one is absolutely wrong. We just go with the philosophical position that makes the most sense to us. There is a dialog in one of the Tantras, where Shiva tells Shakti, “I am neither monistic, nor dualistic, or anything in between.” The Ultimate Truth cannot be written down, it is anirvachya (indescribable), it must be experienced first hand.

Whenever I think of the different philosophies we have in Hinduism, I’m reminded of a famous verse from the Adhyatma Ramayana between Rama and Hanuman (I am parapharasing here):

Once Rama asked Hanuman: “Hanuman, who are you?”

Hanuman replied: “My Lord, as a body, You are the Master, and I am Your servant. As a mind, You are the Sun and I am just a ray of that Sun. As a soul, I am but Your very Self.”

OM Shanti,
A.