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    Anti Hindu muppetry

    Time to time come across sites where complete garbage is mentioned about hinduism
    e.g. caste, when there is no caste system in Vedas, and not birth based:
    http://agniveer.com/caste-system/

    Now these individuals do not reply to these primal points in Hinduism:
    http://www.desiquotes.com/subject/hinduism_quotes/page/3/In Bhagawad Gita, sloka 20, Chapter 10, Lord Krishna says, In sloka (X.20)"I am the Self seated in the heart of all creatures. I am the beginning, the middle and the very end of all beings". All beings have, therefore to be treated alike
    Note word ALL

    2) Karma Yoga-selfless service without expectation of rewards
    e.g.
    http://www.sewaday.org/home/

    3) Moksha-end game of Hindu faith-merging back with god, but only if one leads a noble life.

    Now they can never reconcile their claims of birth based caste to the three pionts above

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    Re: Anti Hindu muppetry

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    Quote Originally Posted by dogra View Post
    2) Karma Yoga-selfless service without expectation of rewards
    e.g.


    This I may wish to add is a vedāntic view on karma yoga. A noble approach no doubt , but there are other views - not better
    or superior but other views just the same. Within kaśmir śaivism karma yoga is the notion of acting while still being possessed of the Self, remaining in madhya. It has little to do with taking on actions without the notion of the outcome.


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    यतसà¥à¤¤à¥à¤µà¤‚ शिवसमोऽसि
    yatastvaṠśivasamo'si
    because you are identical with śiva

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    Also we have Manu smtri being used as a authority, when anything the manu says that contradicts the Vedas are rejected.
    Also Manu has been sujected to corruption as per:
    http://agniveer.com/manu-smriti-and-shudras/

    When faced with facts that manu is not prime authority in Hinduism, they try to wriggle, but get caught with their chaddies at their ankles.

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    Next we have treatment of women in scriptures, these anti hindu muppets alwats come with negative remarks but can never respond to why there are female froms of god e.g. Shakti, Saraswati, why?
    Why do we say Jai Mata di and not Jai pappa di, why?
    Ans- there is clear gender equality in scriptures

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    Re: Anti Hindu muppetry

    Pranam
    I have no need to debate Varna, enough has been said on this forum both for and against.
    Try as hard as i could but i fail to understand who this muppets are who are this Anti Hindu?

    Quote Originally Posted by dogra View Post
    Time to time come across sites where complete garbage is mentioned about hinduism
    e.g. caste, when there is no caste system in Vedas, and not birth based:
    http://agniveer.com/caste-system/

    Now these individuals do not reply to these primal points in Hinduism:
    1) Is this directed to Agniveer site?
    2)Are they the sole authority of Hindus?
    3)Who are these individuals you talk about?

    Quote:
    http://www.desiquotes.com/subject/hi...otes/page/3/In Bhagawad Gita, sloka 20, Chapter 10, Lord Krishna says, In sloka (X.20)"I am the Self seated in the heart of all creatures. I am the beginning, the middle and the very end of all beings". All beings have, therefore to be treated alike



    Note word ALL
    considering this sloka, how do you come to this conclusion that all being should be treated alike? There is a specific verse in the Gita where Lord Krishna says something like; a wise should see a brahmana,cow, chandala a dog and dog eater with equal vision, does this 'Samdarsi' mean that i approach the cow for wisdom and a Brahmana for milk!

    2) Karma Yoga-selfless service without expectation of rewards
    e.g.
    http://www.sewaday.org/home/
    I don't know what the point is, if it is in the site i can not open it.

    3) Moksha-end game of Hindu faith-merging back with god, but only if one leads a noble life.

    Now they can never reconcile their claims of birth based caste to the three pionts above
    I fail to see what relevance these three points are in relation to Varna, perhaps you can make it clear, while you are at it explain if birth is a result of past guna and Karma or not or is it just random without rime and reason.

    Jai Shree Krishna
    Rig Veda list only 33 devas, they are all propitiated, worthy off our worship, all other names of gods are derivative from this 33 originals,
    Bhagvat Gita; Shree Krishna says Chapter 3.11 devan bhavayatanena te deva bhavayantu vah parasparam bhavayantah sreyah param avapsyatha Chapter 17.4 yajante sattvika devan yaksa-raksamsi rajasah pretan bhuta-ganams canye yajante tamasa janah
    The world disappears in him. He is the peaceful, the good, the one without a second.

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    Re: Anti Hindu muppetry

    Dogra,

    Pranaam!!

    In my opinion people behind Agniveer are doing pretty decent job. Are you supporting Agniveer or against them?

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    Who are these individuals you talk about?
    Have you not seen it on other forums, chat shows, e.g. two weeks back Nihal on BBC CALL in show rambled on about caste and color, without correct information, so a caller set the record staright with him.

    considering this sloka, how do you come to this conclusion that all being should be treated alike? There is a specific verse in the Gita where Lord Krishna says something like; a wise should see a brahmana,cow, chandala a dog and dog eater with equal vision
    exactly the point being made see with equal vision, not what u said after.

    I don't know what the point is, if it is in the site i can not open it.
    Karma yoga is amajor part of Hinduism, Swami Vivekenand talked about Karma yoga, which means selfless service without expectation of rewards:
    http://www.abuddhistlibrary.com/Budd...rma%20Yoga.htm

    I fail to see what relevance these three points are in relation to Varna, perhaps you can make it clear, while you are at it explain if birth is a result of past guna and Karma or not or is it just random without rime and reason
    These points are not in relation to Varna, but do provide guidance for us.
    Birth is up to God, we do not judge anyone, we accept all as spirtually equal.
    Varna is not birth based but by current actions and ability and qualifications attained, there is no birth based caste!!

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    Re: Anti Hindu muppetry

    Quote Originally Posted by Anirudh View Post
    Dogra,

    Pranaam!!

    In my opinion people behind Agniveer are doing pretty decent job. Are you supporting Agniveer or against them?
    They are indeed doing a good job.

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    Re: Anti Hindu muppetry

    Also Hindu forum for Britian, is handling issues on Hinduism and its misrepresentation.

    We need to be more responsive in face of falsehoods of our faith, and not idly let false hoods be stated.
    Our faith is a beautiful faith, full of clear humanity, just check Karma Yoga-selfless service to humanity.
    http://www.sewauk.org/

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