Guilt by Association

[Webimpulse]

Namaste all,

I have a hard time dealing with feelings of guilt in my life. As for what this has to do with dharma, I know everything has a role and place in the universe - such is the concept of dharma at its most basic. So why do I feel constantly guilty for everything?

If you're wondering what brought this on, I read this forum thread here on the Hindu woman who died after being denied an abortion, and while it was indeed a horrible atrocity, for some reason, whenever I read/hear about things like this, my first thoughts after "how horrible" immediately jump to "what did I do to cause this? Why am I guilty? Why are people judging me for this?"

My mind works in ways I cannot fathom, because even to me these days this thought process seems delusional. I'm not the doctor who denied this woman treatment. I'm not the politician who penned the law that allowed this atrocity to happen. Heck, I'm not even a citizen of Ireland. And yet my brain still finds ways to connect me with this doctor and make me feel guilty.

White like the doctor? Check. Male like the doctor? Check. Westerner like the doctor? Check. And yes, I know the way I live my life can do harm to the planet and its people by way of products I buy, taxes I pay, etc. But...why am I so quick to associate myself with evil?

Dharma made me feel better in many ways by showing me that I'm supposed to exist, that my role in this universe is a good one. So why am I so quick to tack on guilt by association?

[devotee]

Namaste WI,

why am I so quick to tack on guilt by association?

You have developed a habit of developing guilt consciousness. It all is due to our own habits and not that we are made like that. I am not sure why it is so but it is all our own creations. It may not be in this lifetime ... may be many lifetimes. You might have lived a life which would have instilled deep rooted fear in your mind to an extent that you feel guilty out of hidden fear that you may be held guilty for the wrong that has happened.

Invest your idle time only in God and you will get over this problem.

OM

[kallol]

Kali Yuga is supposed to be more than 400000 years and we have just entered this era - 5112 years ago. What we are seeing now is tiny fraction of what is supposed to come. The feeling of guilt can only increase.

There are two choices

1. Live (mentally) in the happenings of the world (be reactive) and thus be subjected to the guilt, sorrow and emotional ups and downs.

2. Make yourself more spiritually knowledgeable and contribute as duty towards whatever you can do to your upliftment and society upliftment.

The movement towards intense kali yuga cannot be changed. World will move towards more and more horrible societies, deeds. I can only change myself and liberate myself fron this cycle of the yugas. This is more in my control.

Knowledge, devotion, faith and submission is the way out of this.

[Leena]

Namaste Kallol,

I just wanted to say that I have similar feelings of guilt. I feel guilty for being white whenever I hear something about white supremisists and because I have German ancestory, I feel guilty about the Nazis stealing the Swastika to twist it's meaning to something evil. And there is more. What gets me through these times is telling myself that I have no control of what happens in the world and that one person's action doesn't justify who I am or what I do. It doesn't matter how similar we are, that person does not define me. I just wanted to say this so you don't feel alone.

All the best,
Leena

[ShivaFan]

Namaste

I thought about this post, but for some reason I cannot think of anything that I feel guilty about at all. I am always happy, probably because of the Devas and Devi. Sure, I might get mad sometimes, but that is not the same as "feeling guilty" (not at the level of group think or actions of others as exampled in the responses here). Mostly I laugh a lot, some on a smaller scale perhaps I might feel guilty when I laugh at the wrong time or place or my laugh is taken in the wrong way.

I feel guilty if I forget to feed the birds their seeds. I feel guilty if I eat too much (like when I sneek yummy samosas). I feel guilty if, I come back real late from a very long lunch break to work (well, not really - only if I get caught!).

I think the solution to "feeling guilty" is to have a relationship with the Devas and Devi - then you won't feel guilty about hardly anything!

Om Namah Sivaya

[sanjaya]

I think this whole idea of white/Western guilt is especially unhealthy. I as an Indian certainly don't blame Westerners for various deeds perpetrated against Indian Hindus by Christians. On the contrary I would tend to blame Indians who run off to evangelical Christianity; Christianity's morality is pretty directly responsible for the abortion case you describe.

I'm not sure that guilt by association is a good policy to adhere to. But if we're going to ascribe guilt by association, let's also observe that you have to actually associate with the guilty party to likewise be guilty. Being of a specific race or nationality hardly qualifies. I'm from the West (Indian Westerner, go figure), and I don't feel particularly responsible for the Christian pro-life agenda responsible for this. Nor should you.

[JayaRadhe]

Namaste all,

I have a hard time dealing with feelings of guilt in my life. As for what this has to do with dharma, I know everything has a role and place in the universe - such is the concept of dharma at its most basic. So why do I feel constantly guilty for everything?

If you're wondering what brought this on, I read this forum thread here on the Hindu woman who died after being denied an abortion, and while it was indeed a horrible atrocity, for some reason, whenever I read/hear about things like this, my first thoughts after "how horrible" immediately jump to "what did I do to cause this? Why am I guilty? Why are people judging me for this?"

My mind works in ways I cannot fathom, because even to me these days this thought process seems delusional. I'm not the doctor who denied this woman treatment. I'm not the politician who penned the law that allowed this atrocity to happen. Heck, I'm not even a citizen of Ireland. And yet my brain still finds ways to connect me with this doctor and make me feel guilty.

White like the doctor? Check. Male like the doctor? Check. Westerner like the doctor? Check. And yes, I know the way I live my life can do harm to the planet and its people by way of products I buy, taxes I pay, etc. But...why am I so quick to associate myself with evil?

Dharma made me feel better in many ways by showing me that I'm supposed to exist, that my role in this universe is a good one. So why am I so quick to tack on guilt by association?

Namaste!
Don't feel guilty for things that are out of your control. It sounds like you are dealing with a case of scrupulosity. I used to have the same kinds of feelings, and honestly felt that God hated me for a while. It was very hard to work past that stage, but I finally was able to through God's grace. Just know that God loves you and does not hold you guilty for things that are beyond your control.