Equality

[Omkara]

Well, good luck with that. But difference in wealth, intelligence, strength, and other abilities naturally lead to class differences. For a vision of "equality," check out Kurt Vonnegut's shot story "Harrison Bergeron."

America has no monarchy, but class differences in the America are obvious and part of everyday life.

Are you a science fiction fan too?

[philosoraptor]

Are you a science fiction fan too?

Yes, but I don't read much of it these days - no time. I read Harrison Bergeron as an English assignment from the 7th grade and recalled Vonnegut's dystopian vision of equality.

[Equinox]

Vannakkam

But difference in wealth, intelligence, strength, and other abilities naturally lead to class differences.

America has no monarchy, but class differences in the America are obvious and part of everyday life.

Yes, I'm aware of this. But don't you think it will be sort of evened up in the future?



Aum Namah Shivaya

[ShriBala]

Vannakkam
Yes, I'm aware of this. But don't you think it will be sort of evened up in the future?
Aum Namah Shivaya

Not a chance. Just for argument's sake, there is born in India a person of the stature of Sage Paanini maharaj/Sage Vyasa. Just because the rest of us are numbskulls and don't know what the difference is between a chaturthi vibhakti/ samdhi samaas, it doesn't mean that they should be as well. If it had happened in the past, there wouldn't have been a Samskritam. Scary to even think so.

Even-ing out is good as far as basic opportunites are concerned. Everyone must get basic education, security, love at home. But, how they make use of it to progress/regress is solely dependent on them and their efforts. In a nutshell, that is the basis of karma. One is responsible solely for one's own future. Socialized future is so NOT Hinduism. One can't and shouldn't have their lives dictated by affirmative action/quota system of India.

[Omkara]

Vannakkam



Yes, I'm aware of this. But don't you think it will be sort of evened up in the future?



Aum Namah Shivaya

The point that philosoraptor is making (which I agree with) is that inequality is a natural aspect of any society that rewards merit.A doctor MUST earn vastly more than an unskilled labourer.Without the vast gulf in pay between performing and non-performing members of society, a society will just break down because there will be no incentive for people to work hard,choose more difficult professions and contribute more to society.The idea of socialism/leftism is the most despicable and evil ideology that has ever been priduced from the human intellect.If you abolish inequality,there is no moral basis left to society.If an engineer and plumber earn equal or slightly different pay,what is the incentive for someone to become an engineer.What is the reward for an Edison or a Marconi?Why would one work for the progress of oneself and society at all?

[ShriBala]

What is the reward for an Edison or a Marconi?Why would one work for the progress of oneself and society at all?

Wrong examples - edison, marconi - used for someone working solely for society's benefit.

Jagadish Chandra Bose, Satyendranath Bose are way better people to emulate. And they truely believed that science is FOR society and any progress in it must accrue to people. So, JC Bose did NOT patent his work which was duly copied by marconi and some other POS w/o giving the due credit to JC Bose.

Edison is scum. For a better person ,think Tesla.

[Omkara]

Wrong examples - edison, marconi - used for someone working solely for society's benefit.

Jagadish Chandra Bose, Satyendranath Bose are way better people to emulate. And they truely believed that science is FOR society and any progress in it must accrue to people. So, JC Bose did NOT patent his work which was duly copied by marconi and some other POS w/o giving the due credit to JC Bose.

Edison is scum. For a better person ,think Tesla.

I don't think someone who refuses to make money from his inventions is any greater than someone who does'nt.
If there is no financial reward for inventing, corporates simply make money off an inventor's ingenuity without compebsting him.This amounts to subsidizing the incompetent.

[ShriBala]

I don't think someone who refuses to make money from his inventions is any greater than someone who does'nt.
If there is no financial reward for inventing, corporates simply make money off an inventor's ingenuity without compebsting him.This amounts to subsidizing the incompetent.

If our rshis had had the same kind of thinking, then Hinduism would have remained confined to India. Hinduism, unlike churchianity, spread w/o money/political power and solely on ITS merits.

Edison is scum. For all his life, he just tried to clamp on Tesla by using unfair means - money, political power. He should have directed that effort towards becoming better at science.

Btw, Svami Vivekananda did ask JC Bose to patent his work. Unfortunately, Bose didn't. He said science IS for society and working on science is SOLELY the reward.

[Equinox]

Vannakkam

If it had happened in the past, there wouldn't have been a Samskritam. Scary to even think so.

Socialized future is so NOT Hinduism. One can't and shouldn't have their lives dictated by affirmative action/quota system of India.

Exactly!

I was never a fan of equality and would never be. And constantly hearing about fights and protests for equality would generally make someone like me worried about the future, thus the thought. It all seems so scary and senseless when you think of everyone being equal.


Aum Namah Shivaya

[philosoraptor]

If our rshis had had the same kind of thinking, then Hinduism would have remained confined to India. Hinduism, unlike churchianity, spread w/o money/political power and solely on ITS merits.

But Hinduism acknowledges inequality, explains it (as being based on different karmas), and harnesses it (by recognizing different varnas as integral to society). The closest thing to what Equinox is asking would be a society in which everyone is a brahmin, or in which everyone is a shudra. It is hard to see how such a society could even begin to exist, much less function.