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    YOUR opinion on The Gods?

    Namaste all.

    What is your opinion/perspective on the God's and Deitys that are outside Hinduism and are a part of different cultural pantheons?

    Are they Non-Existant? Fictional? Or a Different Manifestation of a Particular Deity/Energy?

    To me personally, I believe most of the gods around the world from different cultural backgrounds are the same exact deities/energies interpreted differently. I take Carl Jungs stance as he was a Great Psychologist as well as Mystic.

    I believe many of the God's Fit in Psychological Archetypal patterns in the Collective Human Unconsciousness while those deities simultaneous carry an independent life on their own. ALL THE SAME ENERGY, It is US that Separate them.

    This is just to serve as an example for comparison, it doesn't have to be accurate. Lets say Thor And Odin of the Viking Religion are the Same energies as Visnu And Shiva. Or Kali Ma is the same energy as Lilith in Judaism, or Hecate. Rama is Hades etc. etc.

    Krishna being the same energy as Obatala in the Yoruba pantheon. So I'm not referring to Monism/Universalism. Still separate distinct energies, that fit particular archetypes, WE separate them based on our conditioned interpretations. But they carry a life on their own.

    For many this is a "New-Agey" thing to believe. I'm not Universalist by any means nor are my beliefs anywhere close to Neo-New Age Thinking.

    I consider myself A realist, and my views will be closest to Carl Jungs stance on the Deities, and the archetypes they fit in the collective unconscious, rather than One God many manifestations that monists stand by.

    Thoughts Anyone?
    Last edited by Spirit Seeker; 04 March 2013 at 08:12 PM.
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    Re: YOUR opinion on The Gods?

    Vannakkam: My opinion shouldn't matter to anyone, but it is that the Hindu Gods, in particular the Saivite ones, are all I need. There is no need (or desire on my part) to look anywhere else.

    However, interdisciplinary or comparative scholars are welcome to go for it.

    Aum Namasivaya

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    Quote Originally Posted by Eastern Mind View Post
    Vannakkam: My opinion shouldn't matter to anyone, but it is that the Hindu Gods, in particular the Saivite ones, are all I need. There is no need (or desire on my part) to look anywhere else.

    However, interdisciplinary or comparative scholars are welcome to go for it.

    Aum Namasivaya
    Namaste Eastern Mind. I understand that. But do YOU think the Hindu Gods that you worship and devote yourself to, carry different facets revealing themselves in different traditional cultures/religions in other regions, or are those "other" manifestations/interpretations are non-existent/fictional. Or are they all One god with many Forms as a Monist would say?

    Or Maybe they do exist, but they are separate beings/energies that are unimportant?

    I think the Latter is what I got from your response.
    Last edited by Spirit Seeker; 04 March 2013 at 09:06 PM.
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    Does it really matter what we think? No amount of belief is going to change fact. The truth remains whatever it is, regardless of our beliefs.
    Philosoraptor

    "Wise men speak because they have something to say. Fools speak because they have to say something." - Plato

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    Quote Originally Posted by philosoraptor View Post
    Does it really matter what we think? No amount of belief is going to change fact. The truth remains whatever it is, regardless of our beliefs.
    Namaste. Yes Objective truth is truth, but would still make for an interesting discussion. Hinduism is very diverse and complex in comparison to simplistic belief systems we are all familiar with.

    So I wouldn't equate this to me going on some Christian Forum, and asking this same question, as I would obviously get all the same answers.
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    Re: YOUR opinion on The Gods?

    Quote Originally Posted by Spirit Seeker View Post
    Namaste Eastern Mind. I understand that. But do YOU think the Hindu Gods that you worship and devote yourself to, carry different facets revealing themselves in different traditional cultures/religions in other regions, or are those "other" manifestations/interpretations are non-existent/fictional.
    Vannakkam: The key here is the word 'think'. I simply do not think anything at all about it because its irrelevant ... totally. Maybe, maybe not, and I don't care at all. You, on the other hand, have thought about it, obviously. As a Hindu, I have better things to do than to think about such stuff ... like actually worshiping my Gods, improving my character, doing seva, pilgrimaging, performing my dharma.

    So it's like asking you what you 'think' of the citizenry of Mauritius.

    Aum Namasivaya

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    Namaste Spirit Seeker

    I think I understand your question, and while within the realm of possibilities there are other Devatas (Gods if you will) that are not familiar to me that are "foreign" (is that even the right word?), perhaps the only way I can explain my experience is with emphasis on the word experience itself. For me, I didn't go about one day saying, "Hey! I think I'm going to go out and dig up some God". I didn't "invite" the Family of Devas and Devi, in particular the Saiva tradition thereof, rather I suddenly experienced this Family. The First One was Ganesha, I was 8 years old at that time. So it was more like I was invited, not me inviting Them. Very soon, it became obvious that the Family was larger, and there was the stunning experience of Shiva and Parvati, Whom I call Mahadeva or The Great God, and by such I quickly started to use the term The Great Goddess for Parvati. The Family quickly expanded, Muruga, then Hinduism really came into full view, naturally you suddenly start finding other Hindus all around you. Why this happened is both a mystery, but also so obvious. Devotees suddenly came from every direction, I had a rich life and experience with their associations. I am not going to speak of everything, because some of it is private to non-Hindus, but it was incredible. Not every journey is the same from one to the next. But mine was so simple, everything was just, literally, handed to me. When I would wake up in the morning, well let me just put it this way - it was like waking up in paradise. Each day was both long and short, full of color, full of adventure, moving all around. While each one has their own way, I sort of had no way, it was just so easily given, and frankly fun. And for some reason, there was an openess - all sorts and every type of experiencing Hindu be it Saiva, Vaishnav or Shakta, not only stepped right in front of me, but those who did for whatever reason wanted to be my friend and I wanted to be theirs, too. You cannot avoid some things, when it pervasively is all around you, as was for example the Ramayana. The experience of Hanuman came. He is now my Ishta Lord. The Family grew larger.

    I will leave it at that. Some things are only between devotees, not for a forum.

    You will find all sorts of what is called Hindus on this forum. But association, direct association, with devotees who have real names and faces is more important then nameless avatars on a forum. Your answer to your question is, you must experience it. No amount of quotes by nameless members of sacred texts, can give you All the answer, far from it even though you find wonders still under a book or next to "there". Doors open everywhere, for some a forum may be the first door, they may have just walked into that door for reasons they don't understand. But you will meet with those who want to meet with you first, this is very common for many. The answer to your question is, I don't have to check into other Gods if you will. And from this point forward, in this life, Whatever "Gods" that I met on the way, they will all be part of this Family.

    Today I think of Mother Annapurna. She lives in Kashi. Kashi is the Eternal City, Never Forsaken by Lord Shiva.

    Om Namah Sivaya

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    Re: YOUR opinion on The Gods?

    Namaste,
    Quote Originally Posted by Spirit Seeker View Post
    Krishna being the same energy as Obatala......
    For a second I read Obatala as Obama; Krishna and Obama - same energy?
    Quote Originally Posted by Spirit Seeker View Post
    I consider myself A realist,
    What exactly is a realist?

    It appears that you are comparing and shopping around, as I do when I am ready to buy a car. Please get real, spirituality is devotion to deities, not a material thing that lends itself to a comparative intellectual exercise. And don't ever think that you are breaking new ground; new people have been coming up with the same old tired intellectual exercises and thinking as if they have found something new. I have been through this a million times before. But thanks for posting this in the right section of the forum.

    Why bring non Hindu things to a Hindu forum? What is the intent? What exactly do you expect to hear? Perhaps an atta-boy is expected for stating what you might think to be something unique that will lift the mankind to new heights of peace, prosperity and spiritual bliss?

    Pranam.

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    Re: YOUR opinion on The Gods?

    Quote Originally Posted by Believer View Post
    Namaste,

    For a second I read Obatala as Obama; Krishna and Obama - same energy?

    What exactly is a realist?

    It appears that you are comparing and shopping around, as I do when I am ready to buy a car. Please get real, spirituality is devotion to deities, not a material thing that lends itself to a comparative intellectual exercise. And don't ever think that you are breaking new ground; new people have been coming up with the same old tired intellectual exercises and thinking as if they have found something new. I have been through this a million times before. But thanks for posting this in the right forum.

    Pranam.
    Namaste.

    Realists accept that the material world is real and not an illusion/maya. It's exact opposite Mono-Idealism accepts that nothing is independant from the mind. There's sub philosophies as well from Subjective Idealism to Objective Idealism etc.

    I was only asking for opinions, but it appears I'm being received wrongly. No one here is answering my questions directly as to what they personally think of different gods outside Hinduism.

    Sorry for asking then or if I offended anyone for just being curious....
    Why bring non Hindu things to a Hindu forum? What is the intent? What exactly do you expect to hear? Perhaps an atta-boy is expected for stating what you might think to be something unique that will lift the mankind to new heights of peace, prosperity and spiritual bliss?
    Hmmm Perhaps a DIRECT answer to a question from a Follower of Hindu/Sanatana Dharma, being that it is in the appropriate discussion forum, without being projected with pre-conceived labels and words/intent assumed upon me.
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    Re: YOUR opinion on The Gods?

    Namaste,
    Quote Originally Posted by Spirit Seeker View Post
    No one here is answering my questions directly as to what they personally think of different gods outside Hinduism.
    When Hindus have the original, why would they waste time on thinking about, analyzing and commenting on imperfect copies? Is that direct enough?

    Do you really believe in the following appendage to your posts, or is it just cute, fancy words to you?

    "For those who believe, no explanation is necessary. For those who do not, none will suffice." - Joseph Dunninger

    That is your real answer.

    Pranam.

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