Re: the world is an illusion, but its real enough
Dear Yajvan ji,
There can be three categories of objects:
-- SAT, what IS and remains as it IS: trikalepi tishtati, it exists in all three periods of time without any change.
--ASAT, that which is not there in the three periods of time -- without any iota of doubt. Like the horns of a hare. Or a barren women's children.
--MITHYA: that which is not there but appears "as if " there. Like a Mirage water. There is no water body there. The water body seen there is really "ASAT" , but it appears as if its there. Like a palace imagined in dream. The palace is not there , but appears true. The Adhistana on which mithya is imaged up [like a snake seen on a rope, rope is the adhistana] is SAT.
So Ignorace is to see MITHYA as SAT as something existing.
Knowledge is to see MITHYA as ASAT. Or MITHYA as MITHYA . The changes become ASAT.
Maya is the ignorance [or its cause ... the cause and affect have to be on the same plane]. So Maya belongs to category of MITHYA too!! Thats why I stressed on the meaning "YA - MA", what which is Not!
Shankara wrote an entire panchakam called Maya Panchakam. !!
Bhagavan Ramana Maharshi explained statement
Brahma satyam jagan mithya jeevo brahmaiva na parah... he says:
1. World is ASAT
2. Brahman is SAT
3. Brahman alone is all this
which is to say the changes that we see belong to the category of MITHYA. Its to be understood as exactly equivalent to saying:
1. The snake is unreal.
2. Rope is real.
3. Snake is nothing but the rope.
which is to say that the rope is not Moving! If we reject [bhagatyaga lakshanam] the movement and potential to hiss of the snake ... and see what is its adhistanam ... its rope alone. So the snake is only maya kalpitha ... its mithya. its maya.
ajata vada is the ultimate truth as it is. Bhagavan Ramana Maharshi was asked "Is there rebirth" and he replied "Find out if there is a birth in the first place" ! There is no birth, no death. So no question of Srishti . This is Ajata vada. Its just to say BRAHMAN Alone IS.
Infact sristhi drishti vada is only given for people who are not able to understand or accept dristi sristhi vada.
Love!
Silence
Come up, O Lions, and shake off the delusion that you are a sheep
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