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    Quote Originally Posted by Jigar View Post
    Namaste,
    What stage of the 4 stages is the kali yuga? What can I expect the Earth to be like after the stage is over and which stage is next? Because I'm expecting the earth to change from it like the ice ages.


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    Table : Infrastructure of the Chatur-Yuga period.

    Krita Yuga Period
    Dawn
    400 - Divine Years
    144,000 - Solar Years
    Krita-Yuga
    4,000 - Divine Years
    1,440,000 - Solar Years
    Twilight
    400 - Divine Years
    144,000 - Solar Years
    Subtotal
    4,800 - Divine Years
    1,728,000 - Solar Years



    Treta Yuga Period
    Dawn
    300 - Divine Years
    108,000 - Solar Years
    Treta-Yuga
    3,000 - Divine Years
    1,080,000 - Solar Years
    Twilight
    300 - Divine Years
    108,000 - Solar Years
    Subtotal
    3,600 - Divine Years
    1,296,000 - Solar Years



    Dvapara Yuga Period
    Dawn
    200 - Divine Years
    72,000 - Solar Years
    Dvapara-Yuga
    2,000 - Divine Years
    720,000 - Solar Years
    Twilight
    200 - Divine Years
    72,000 - Solar Years
    Subtotal
    2,400 - Divine Years
    864,000 - Solar Years

    Kali Yuga Period
    Dawn
    100 - Divine Years
    36,000 - Solar Years
    Kali-Yuga
    1,000 - Divine Years
    360,000 - Solar Years
    Twilight
    100 - Divine Years
    36,000 - Solar Years
    Subtotal
    1,200 - Divine Years
    432,000 - Solar Years
    Total
    12,000 - Divine Years
    4,320,000 - Solar Years
    Last edited by Arvind Sivaraman; 27 December 2007 at 10:35 PM. Reason: Modification

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    Re: Kali yuga

    Quote Originally Posted by Agnideva View Post

    And also don't forget, we are overdue for a shift in the magnetic poles .

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    Namaste Soul, Here is a little info about magnetic pole shift:

    "When talking about the magnetic poles flipping, we can say three things with reasonable confidence: it's going to happen, we don't know when, and it probably won't be as bad as some people think.

    As far as scientists can tell, the earth has had a magnetic field for billions of years. The ancient Chinese were likely the first to discover the field's effect on lodestones, although Europeans may not have figured it out till the Middle Ages. In 1600 a physician in Queen Elizabeth's court named William Gilbert proposed that the earth itself generated the force that moved compass needles. Scientists began measuring the strength of the earth's magnetic field in the 1830s using a magnetometer invented by Carl Friedrich Gauss. Since then the magnetic field has been subject to intensive if somewhat inconclusive study, the upshot of which is that we're not certain why it's there, but we're lucky it is — it does a lot more than make compasses work. In combination with the atmosphere it shields us from many of the solar and other charged particles that would otherwise spatter the planet's surface and its inhabitants; it also protects the atmosphere itself from erosion by the solar wind.
    While the experts are vague on the details, they're pretty sure the earth's magnetic field is a result of movement in the planet's liquid iron and nickel core (although Jupiter and other planets believed to lack such cores also have magnetic fields). They also know the field isn't stable and tends to shift in at least two different ways: the magnetic poles typically wander around slowly, but every so often flip completely, reversing the magnetic polarity of the planet.
    Ever since the compass was invented, navigators have noticed that the direction indicated by the needle changes slightly each year. Over the last century, both the north and south magnetic poles have been drifting north (that is, toward the geographic north pole, which itself wanders somewhat, but let's not make this more complicated than it already is). The north magnetic pole historically has moved at a rate of about ten kilometers per year, but has lately accelerated, heading toward Russia at four times that rate.
    The first evidence for a complete flip of the magnetic poles came in the 1950s, when studies of the tectonic plates in the mid-Atlantic revealed that the rock making up the ocean floor was arranged in stripes of alternating magnetic polarity. It turns out that as the iron-rich magma pushing up from beneath the plate boundary cools and spreads out, the mineral crystals align themselves with the magnetic field as it then exists, creating a tree-ring-style record of its direction and strength. The alternating stripes attest to frequent field flip-flops over geological time.
    Intervals between pole flips vary greatly — sometimes things will be stable for tens of millions of years, other times the poles reverse after a few tens of thousands of years. The last flip was roughly 780,000 years ago, making some think we're overdue, although since no one really understands polar acrobatics, prediction seems futile. Circumstantial evidence suggests that a comet or large meteorite impact could trigger a magnetic pole flip, but proof is lacking. Recent reports about a decrease in the strength of the earth's magnetic field have led to anxiety that another reversal looms. However, while the field's strength has weakened by about 10 percent since the 1800s, it's still about double the average strength over the last million years.
    When the magnetic field does reverse, it won't be like someone hit a light switch — the process can take thousands of years, and that's part of the problem. While the poles are in midflip, the earth will have a much weaker magnetic field than normal, allowing more solar and cosmic radiation to penetrate. Recent research suggests that a weak magnetic field could lead to severe damage of the ozone layer, letting in more ultraviolet radiation and sharply increasing skin cancer rates, resulting in perhaps a hundred thousand additional cancer deaths per year. Pole flips generally haven't coincided with mass wildlife extinctions, so most plants and animals (presumably including us) will likely survive. Still, during the flipping process not only would the north and south poles radically shift location, there might be several different small poles scattered around the planet. This could lead to disruption of electrical systems and satellites, auroras appearing at tropical latitudes, and widespread death (or at least confusion) among animals like the loggerhead turtle that rely upon the earth's magnetic field for navigation. So OK, things might get ugly for a bit. But my guess is we'll deal with it."
    —CECIL ADAMS

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    Re: Kali yuga

    Namaste Bob,

    Wow....

    Thanks for posting that info....

    Enjoy

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    You are welcome Soul!

    I believe one can find Hindu teachings about how all things (including all the yugas) are really spinning together right now. (and past and future are only apparent...etc.) Anyway, if you are interested here is a quote from a Buddhist source that I believe speaks of such:

    All of Dharmadhatu Coexist as a Whole

    "It is commonly held to be the case that what was in the past are gone, what are at present are transient, and what will come have not yet occurred. Consequently, even though after having accepted the Dependent Origination View that all dharmas are mutually dependent as causes and conditions for their coexistence, one still regards Dharmadhatu as a flow of dharmas—past dharmas have faded away, present dharmas are apparent but transient, and future dharmas have not arrived and are unpredictable. This view of Dharmadhatu is under the limitation of the notion of time, and as such it deviates from the correct meaning of the Buddhist Dharmadhatu.

    According to the correct view of Dharmadhatu all dharmas in the past, all dharmas at present and all dharmas in the future are all together in the Dharmadhatu. Dharmadhatu is neither limited by space nor by time. Ordinarily people can experience only a minute part of all dharmas at present, and therefore people sustain the view that dharmas in the past are gone and future is unpredictable. If one practices according to Buddhist teachings and thereby comes out of the bondage of the fixed view of a space-and-time framework, then it is possible to experience or witness dharmas in the past as well as dharmas in the future. According to biographies of ancient Buddhist sages, some witnessed that the ancient assemblage of Buddha, holy beings and his disciples, in which the teachings recorded in Wondrous Dharma Lotus Sutra were given, had not dispersed yet. There are also numerous records of valid prophecies regarding important events or personages in Buddhist history. Even though for common people these matters are difficult to believe, nevertheless, among practitioners it is common experiences that knowledge of future events are revealed now and then through inspirations" from Dr. Yutang Lin
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    Re: Kali yuga

    According to various sources, we are still in the dawn of the Kali Yuga. If the state of the world is so bad now, I wonder how it would be towards the end of the Kali Yuga.

    In the Kalki Purana, it states that we will war with China (?) for over 20 years and at the end of the war Kalki will come and vanquish them. So I suppose Kali is embodied in the Chinese and they will attack Bharat in the future? Kind of scary to read. Any thoughts on this?

    Another interesting theory I've come across is that Ashwatthama, the son of Dronacharya, was banished from Aryavarta with leprosy for 6000 years by Krishna and hence he is one of the Chiranjeevins. Apparently he fled to the Arabian peninsula and I'm just wondering if that is dawn of Christianity & Islam? LOL. Just a radical thought, but he has enough reason to hate Hindus and India...so I wonder if those subtler forces gave birth to Christianity & Islam and consequently the invasions into Aryavarta & constant degradation of Sanathana Dharma?

    It states in the Srimad Bhagavatam that after the demise of King Parikshit, Sanathana Dharma will have a steady decline and only at the end of the Kali Yuga will Vishnu manifest as Kalki to restore dharma on this earth.

    Then the Sandhi Kalam where the earth is submerged in the 'Waters' only to give rise to a new Satya Yuga!

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    Namaste TTA,

    ashvatthAma was the son of droNAcArya (who, as the preceptor of both kuru and paNDu, was the veritable cause of the dramatic action on kurukshetra). droNAcArya is said to have been generated (in a bucket) by the RSi bharadvAja; and bharadvAja, droNa, and ashvatthAma are all AŃgirasa. After the appearance of srI kRSNa on kurukshetra, however, the pANDava princes’ sadguru usurped the previous guru status of droNAcArya.

    Both droNa and ashvatthAma were kings of uttara pańcAla, while kRSNa was the yAdava lord. And the suggestion that ashvatthAma was banished for 6,000 years with leprosy by kRSNa is surely a subsequent yAdava exaggeration (a bit of “my guru beat your guru” propaganda).

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    Quote Originally Posted by sarabhanga View Post
    Namaste TTA,

    ashvatthAma was the son of droNAcArya (who, as the preceptor of both kuru and paNDu, was the veritable cause of the dramatic action on kurukshetra). droNAcArya is said to have been generated (in a bucket) by the RSi bharadvAja; and bharadvAja, droNa, and ashvatthAma are all AŃgirasa. After the appearance of srI kRSNa on kurukshetra, however, the pANDava princes’ sadguru usurped the previous guru status of droNAcArya.

    Both droNa and ashvatthAma were kings of uttara pańcAla, while kRSNa was the yAdava lord. And the suggestion that ashvatthAma was banished for 6,000 years with leprosy by kRSNa is surely a subsequent yAdava exaggeration (a bit of “my guru beat your guru” propaganda).
    Namaste Sarabhanga,

    Interesting...how about the part where he 'migrated to the Arabian peninsula'? Another myth?

    It's funny that the Kalki Purana gives so much detail that it is very hard to believe! "White winged steed"? haha. it sounds like a video game...I just hope the world doesn't look like a huge landfill in ~400k years.

    Subham.

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    ashvatthAma is said to have committed the midnight massacre of upa-pANDavas, along with kR^ipa and kR^itavarma. After this, Arjuna and ashvatthAma were locked in a war of divyAstras. ashvatthAma hurls the brahmashIrsha astra on Arjuna who replied with the same astra. When these astras collided, the world was about to destroyed. Sages like vyAsa and nArada interfered and prevented the disaster. Both Arjuna and ashvatthAma were commanded to withdraw their weapons. Arjuna was able to do so, while ashvatthAma failed. The weapon was directed at the womb of uttara( who was carrying the would be parIxit) , the wife of abhimanyu - the only hope of the pANDAva line as everybody else had been killed by the trio. For this miserable act, ashvatthAma was stripped of his precious jewel he wore on his head. He was cursed by vyAsa to lead a miserable long life, for his sins. Later, Krishna by his Yogic power, restored the life of parIxit.

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    How about the part where he 'migrated to the Arabian peninsula'? Another myth?
    Namaste TTA,

    The mythic pańcapaNDava are the historic pańcakRSTaya, and it was the descendents of yAdu, represented by yudhiSThira, who followed the sun’s westward course and finally reached the land promised to them by their promise to yama ~ the sunset realm of nara shiva, from which there can be no reincarnation, only eternal bliss. They followed the expansive order of bRMhan, and became abRMham. They yoked their twin and went west seeking only yama. And they knew the wide earth as their own inheritance. The yudhA have always followed the way of the sun, and of course that eventually led them to the arabian peninsula (c. 1,500-1,000 BC).

    droNAcArya is known as the yuddhAcArya (military preceptor) of the pANDavas, but it was the wide ranging yAdavas who actually reached the middle east and first established an outpost of vaidika traditions (the exact origins of which soon became lost across the desert sands somewhere in the east).

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