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Avyaydya
Thank you Lokavidu,
Sometimes I get the impression people on forums have read a whole other Mahabharata than me. In this version...
Hare Krsna,
It's not a good form to make up shlokas to prove a point. Not only is it exaggeration, but it creates unnecessary lack of clarity.
do not worry about dharm, it is all maya.
I don't believe anyone on this post has said anything of the sort. Bhakti path, for example, incorporates the full essence of Dharma.
Just ignore this maya world.
Being overly attached to this world and the results of actions is bound for suffering since everything here is temporary. By distorting to exaggerate the opposite of your personal view, you may well distort the scripture itself.ye hi samsparśa-jā bhogā
duhkha-yonaya eva te
ādy-antavantah kaunteya
na teshu ramate budhah
"An intelligent person does not take part in the sources of misery, which are due to contact with the material senses. O son of Kuntī, such pleasures have a beginning and an end, and so the wise man does not delight in them." -
Bhagavad-gītā As It Is 5.22
Just dance for me and chant my name, that is all you have to do.
this is a valid and useful bhakti path, why disrespect it like this, for arguments sake?evaḿ-vrataḥ sva-priya-nāma-kīrtyā
jātānurāgo druta-citta uccaiḥ
hasaty atho roditi rauti gāyaty
unmāda-van nṛtyati loka-bāhyaḥ
"By chanting the holy name of the Supreme Lord, one comes to the stage of love of Godhead. Then the devotee is fixed in his vow as an eternal servant of the Lord, and he gradually becomes very much attached to a particular name and form of the Supreme Personality of Godhead. As his heart melts with ecstatic love, he laughs very loudly or cries or shouts. Sometimes he sings and dances like a madman, for he is indifferent to public opinion." -
Śrīmad Bhāgavatam 11.2.40
No reason to fight a war, it is maya.
If you win the greatest military battles but lose the war within, then the life is wasted. Conversely we have a duty on many levels, of self-defense, defense of home, family, country, and some are more suited than others for those roles (kshatriya dharm).sparsan kritva bahir bahyams
cakshus caivantare bhruvoh
pranapanau samau kritva
nasabhyantara-carinau
yatendriya-mano-buddhir
munir moksha-parayanah
vigateccha-bhaya-krodho
yah sada mukta eva sah
"Shutting out all external sense objects, keeping the eyes and vision concentrated between the two eyebrows, suspending the inward and outward breaths within the nostrils, and thus controlling the mind, senses and intelligence, the transcendentalist aiming at liberation becomes free from desire, fear and anger. One who is always in this state is certainly liberated." -
Bhagavad-gita As It Is 5.27-28
Listen Arjuna, their is only wisdom in the right knowledge not in the right action.
I disapprove of using invented shlokas to prove a point. Just quote directly please, then people can have a discussion around actual verses and not be confusing an opinion with authority of scripture.karmaṇy evādhikāras te
mā phaleṣu kadācana
mā karma-phala-hetur bhūr
mā te sańgo 'stv akarmaṇi
"You have a right to perform your prescribed duty, but you are not entitled to the fruits of action. Never consider yourself the cause of the results of your activities, and never be attached to not doing your duty." -
Bhagavad-gītā As It Is 2.47
Is this the Mahabhrata? Is this Hinduism?
Stretched to a distorted extreme, of course not. Neither can scriptures be manipulated to support equally erroneous opposite conclusions and divest the transcendental yoga/bhakti teachings and dvaitadvaitavada tattva.
Please forgive my mistakes
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