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    Can Asuras learn Vedas?

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    In the srimad bhagavatam we see that sukracharya became the guru of the Asuras. Was he teaching them the Veda? If not, what kind of knowledge were they being given?

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    Re: Can Asuras learn Vedas?

    Pranams SKR108

    As far as I understand he was teaching them the Veda, emphasizing grhastha dharma instead of moksha.

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    Re: Can Asuras learn Vedas?

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    Namaskar

    In the srimad bhagavatam we see that sukracharya became the guru of the Asuras. Was he teaching them the Veda? If not, what kind of knowledge were they being given?
    He didn't become guru to teach veda. There's another reason.

    Note: You've selected a wrong forum. This thread should have been in "Puranas" forum.
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    Quote Originally Posted by SKR108 View Post
    Namaskar

    In the srimad bhagavatam we see that sukracharya became the guru of the Asuras. Was he teaching them the Veda? If not, what kind of knowledge were they being given?
    Can Asuras learn Vedas?

    It seems that even the demons sometimes were taught in Vedic knowledge. We have an example of this in the Chandogya Upanishad:
    http://www.swamij.com/upanishad-chandogya.htm

    Chapter VII — The Person in the Eye

    1. Prajapati said: "The Self which is free from sin, free from old age, free from death, free from grief, free from hunger, free from thirst, whose desires come true and whose thoughts come true—That it is which should be searched out, That it is which one should desire to understand. He who has known this Self from the scriptures and a teacher and understood It obtains all the worlds and all desires.

    2. The devas (gods) and asuras (demons) both heard these words and said: "Well, let us search out this Self by searching out which one obtains all the worlds and all desires." Indra, among the gods, went forth and Virochana, among the demons. Without communicating with each other, the two came into the presence of Prajapati, fuel in hand.

    3. They dwelt there for thirty—two years, practising brahmacharya. Then Prajapati said to them: "For what purpose have you both been living here?" They said: "A saying of yours is being repeated by learned people: ‘The Self which is free from sin, free from old age, free from death, free from grief, free from hunger, free from thirst, whose desires come true and whose thoughts come true—That it is which should be searched out, That it is which one should desire to understand. He who has known this Self and understood It obtains all the worlds and all desires.’ Now, we both have dwelt here because we desire that Self."

    4. Prajapati said to them: "The person that is seen in the eye—that is the Self." He further said: "This is immortal, fearless. This is Brahman." They asked: "Venerable Sir, he who is perceived in the water and he who is perceived in a mirror—which of these is he?" Prajapati replied: "The same one, indeed, is perceived in all these."
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    Re: Can Asuras learn Vedas?

    Quote Originally Posted by SKR108 View Post
    Namaskar

    In the srimad bhagavatam we see that sukracharya became the guru of the Asuras. Was he teaching them the Veda? If not, what kind of knowledge were they being given?


    Shukracharya had hatred towards Vishnu. He supposed that his mother was killed by him as she had given shelter to some asura whom Lord Vishnu was hunting. Shukracharya therefore became the Guru of Asuras. He helped them win over the Devas.

    So it's clear because of enmity towards Vishnu, he became asura's guru to defeat Devas. But not to teach them Veda.
    Hari On!

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    Re: Can Asuras learn Vedas?

    Thank you for the informative replies!

    Sorry for posting in the wrong section, I didn't see that subforum.

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    Re: Can Asuras learn Vedas?

    Vedas can be learnt by everyone.For example,Ravana was well versed in vedas.
    Its just that asuras being tamasik in nature live most of the time in ignorance mode, so they r not intrinsicly interested in acquiring knowledge(indicated by planet Jupiter,Guru)and they r most dominantly influenced by planet Venus,(Sukra) who is a hardcore enemy of Jupiter.So most asuras are pleasure(indicated by venus) seekers and not knowledge(indicated by Jupiter) seekers.
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