Re: What does the Supreme really want?
Pranam Marga ji
Originally Posted by
Marga mana das
Namaste Ganeshprasad,
-beautiful name, by the way
.
Well thank you, mercy of Lord Ganesh, I need it.
Parampara refers to a chain of spiritual masters,
That is well understood but it has a wider meaning to it, I wan't go in to that.
But it sure does not equate to Sampradaya there is a difference.
Kula deva, kula Guru, Kula parampara like in your example;
'Krishna gives the example in the gita: Krishna - Vivasvan - Manu -Iksvaku.'
These are Surya Vansa, Raghu Kula their Kula Guru-Vashistha Rishi.
Just as Pandva and Kourava they had their own Kula Guru- Arjun was worried about his Varna Shankra his Kula being disturbed
No talk here about any Sampradaya.
Family tradition, family Devtas, family lineage family gurus that has always been the norm even family born in to certain sampradaya,which is relatively a new term.
and the idea is that the guru simply passes on the knowledge he has received from
his guru to his own disciples -
without adding or subtracting, or in other way changing the original knowledge. In this way the knowledge remains
perfect and
potent.
And a very good idea and since you are pushing your sampradaya Brahm Gaudia? Let see how true you remain to your own words!
Madhva sampradaya do they agree with your Gaudya sampradaya ?
Madhva=sudh dwaita
Gaudia = Achintya bhed abhed tatva.
There always a leap of faith from Narad to Madhva there is no direct link is there?
So where is the continuity?
In your own Iskcon I believe, correct me if I am wrong, again we have to rely on initiation by the way of a dream to complete the chain-again based on faith.
Perhaps you can explain why there was a need of new institution when Prabhupada's own guru had his own?
See I have no problem with sampradaya if it suits the masses what I object is the word 'authentic Guru' I think its an insult to the word Guru it self. A guru is a guru who dispels ignorance. Some people try monopolise that in sampradaya only, that is what I object to.
As they were instructed by Narada, who was instructed by Brahma (who was instructed by Vishnu), they belong to the Brahma-sampradaya.
Jay Shree Krishna!
Oh really I wonder why not Vishnu
Jai Shree Krishna
Rig Veda list only 33 devas, they are all propitiated, worthy off our worship, all other names of gods are derivative from this 33 originals,
Bhagvat Gita; Shree Krishna says Chapter 3.11 devan bhavayatanena te deva bhavayantu vah parasparam bhavayantah sreyah param avapsyatha Chapter 17.4 yajante sattvika devan yaksa-raksamsi rajasah pretan bhuta-ganams canye yajante tamasa janah
The world disappears in him. He is the peaceful, the good, the one without a second.
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