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    Re: great (profound) questions...

    hariḥ oṁ
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    why does going inward even occur - i.e. why does transcending happen ?

    इतिशिवं
    iti śivaṁ
    Last edited by yajvan; 12 November 2017 at 06:57 PM.
    यतस्त्वं शिवसमोऽसि
    yatastvaṁ śivasamo'si
    because you are identical with śiva

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    Re: great (profound) questions...

    Namaste,

    I am sure that you have a trajectory of thought.

    As of now I see the two main factors are dukkha as the cause of going inward and anugraha as the source of transcending.

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    why does going inward even occur - i.e. why does transcending happen ?

    From the tantralokā of abhinavagupa-ji1

    vastu mātrātilālāsā | 203a.
    (vastu mātra-ati-lālasā)

    • vastu - any really existing or abiding substance or essence , ; subject , subject-matter , contents
    • mātra - the full or simple measure of anything
    • ati – excessively (usually prefixed to nouns and adjectives)
    • lālasā - delighting or absorbed in , devoted or totally given up to

    this essence is excessively fond/delighted of that essence or state | 203a

    using svāmī lakṣman-jū ‘s words, he says ‘He is very fond of Himself only!

    What is being said is, one’s awareness is directed inwardly and it goes in that direction because He (śivaḥ) in the form of consciousness is fond of that state of his own Being/essence ( vastu); He enjoys Himself; He is self-sufficient and quite happy in and being bathed/immersed (niṣnātaḥ2) in Himself ( Being, pure awareness).

    So, one goes inward with limited awareness into limitless awareness. Both are śivaḥ

    इतिशिवं
    iti śivaṁ

    1.abhinavaguta-ji is addressed as mahāmaheśvarācharya śrīmad abhinavaguptanatha
    2. niṣnātaḥ = ni ( into) + snā (to soak in, to steep) or ṣṇā (bathing, immersed)

    Last edited by yajvan; 16 November 2017 at 09:15 PM.
    यतस्त्वं शिवसमोऽसि
    yatastvaṁ śivasamo'si
    because you are identical with śiva

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