Re: Rebirth as an animal
Pranam
Originally Posted by
ale84
Hello, I've heard from ISKCON that is easy to fall back from human stage to the animal realm.
But what is the position of other schools, like Advaita for instance, on this issue?
Are animals jivas, like human beings, or are they part of a collective soul from which they eventually split into jiva/human existence?
Thanks.
Now that would be too simple to say one can fall back to animal realm that easy, yes they are many example in this regards, some on the account of curse as the example given by Devotee ji
What does lord Krishna says in this regards;
Remembering whatever object one leaves the body at the end of life, one attains that object, O Arjuna, because of the constant thought of that object (one remembers that object at the end of life and achieves it). (8.06)
The story of Bhgvatam of maharaj Bharat as mentioned by Viraja, fits in nicely with above.
Off course the cumulative effect of the thoughts and actions of one's life influences one's thoughts at the time of death, that is for sure.
Krishna Bhagvan in chapter 16, also warns us of the three gates to hell or birth in lower realm and to be weary of them.
As to who is coming and going, surly there are different answers one gets depending who you follow, personally it is me the individual who never dies as explained in Gita
There was never a time when I, you, or these kings did not exist; nor shall we ever cease to exist in the future. (2.12)
He further explains to Arjun you and me have had many birth, I remember them all but you do not.
That is the difference between us Jiva who is coming and going from one existence to another, according to our desires and karma the authority that be decides our fate.
Jai Shree Krishna
Rig Veda list only 33 devas, they are all propitiated, worthy off our worship, all other names of gods are derivative from this 33 originals,
Bhagvat Gita; Shree Krishna says Chapter 3.11 devan bhavayatanena te deva bhavayantu vah parasparam bhavayantah sreyah param avapsyatha Chapter 17.4 yajante sattvika devan yaksa-raksamsi rajasah pretan bhuta-ganams canye yajante tamasa janah
The world disappears in him. He is the peaceful, the good, the one without a second.
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