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    Do you believe in life after delivery ?

    In a mother’s womb were two babies. One asked the other: “Do you believe in life after delivery?” The other replied, “Why, of course. There has to be something after delivery. Maybe we are here to prepare ourselves for what we will be later.”
    “Nonsense” said the first. “There is no life after delivery. What kind of life would that be?”

    The second said, “I don’t know, but there will be more light than here. Maybe we will walk with our legs and eat from our mouths. Maybe we will have other senses that we can’t understand now.”

    The first replied, “That is absurd. Walking is impossible. And eating with our mouths? Ridiculous! The umbilical cord supplies nutrition and everything we need. But the umbilical cord is so short. Life after delivery is to be logically excluded.”

    The second insisted, “Well I think there is something and maybe it’s different than it is here. Maybe we won’t need this physical cord anymore.”

    The first replied, “Nonsense. And moreover if there is life, then why has no one has ever come back from there? Delivery is the end of life, and in the after-delivery there is nothing but darkness and silence and oblivion. It takes us nowhere.”

    “Well, I don’t know,” said the second, “but certainly we will meet Mother and she will take care of us.”

    The first replied “Mother? You actually believe in Mother? That’s laughable. If Mother exists then where is She now?”

    The second said, “She is all around us. We are surrounded by her. We are of Her. It is in Her that we live. Without Her this world would not and could not exist.”

    Said the first: “Well I don’t see Her, so it is only logical that She doesn’t exist.”

    To which the second replied, “Sometimes, when you’re in silence and you focus and you really listen, you can perceive Her presence, and you can hear Her loving voice, calling down from above.” - Útmutató a Léleknek
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    Re: Do you believe in life after delivery ?

    Namaste,

    A truly remarkable story!

    But, is this type of thinking confined to twins only or can one-baby-in-the-womb also have the same ideas?

    Pranam.

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    Re: Do you believe in life after delivery ?

    They say a child in the womb is blissfully aware of everything! And this includes his previous births and god awareness. It seems owing to his knowledge of everything, a child never wants to be born but the good Lord god inside of the womb pushes the baby outside at the right time with a kick that then manifests as the child birth. Even in the tale of "Nammalwar" also known as "Satakopa" we learn that there is a certain air (vayu) known as 'Satam' which surrounds a newborn baby that makes him forget all knowledge he had while in the womb and that because this saint with a 'humkara' pushed aside this air, the satam never surrounded him and thus he retained all his knowledge (and that's why he is 'satakopa'!).

    BTW: Why is the story repeated twice in the OP?
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    Re: Do you believe in life after delivery ?

    The problem with such stories, IMO, is that it proves or disproves nothing.

    If the life in the womb is not complete, in itself, and it requires birth to attain such completion, then this opens up the unfavourable consequence that the life in the afterlife in itself may not be complete and it requires an after-afterlife for completion ad infinitum.

    Sruthi is the only source of knowledge of the unseen and faith in sruthi is an important part of spiritual life. We believe in the existence of svarga as the final teleological summum bonum of earthly life beyond which there is nothing not via argumentation but because the Vedas affirm so.

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    Re: Do you believe in life after delivery ?

    Namaste Wundermonk,

    I won't deny what you say but would like to point out that this story does show hollowness of arguments which try to negate "life after death" (i.e. is there anything beyond this life we know ?). This is not for people at higher spiritual levels. It is for those who cannot see beyond what they can perceive by their sense organs and their axioms based on their highly limited experience of the Truth.

    The story very strongly underlines the fact that something can exist even if it cannot be perceived by our sense organs and even if cannot be proved by our logic which is based on our highly limited knowledge of the Truth.

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