Originally Posted by
ShivaFan
When I hear others harping and back biting an authorized, with deep lineage and commitment, Hindu sect that has had outstanding success in bringing a positive awareness and presence of Hinduism all over the world, typically what I find if getting closer to such a critic is not a seeker or one that wants to learn, but someone who thinks they are guru-like with a small "g".
Instead, they should share what they have found positive or what they have learned from those who have given to them by mercy, then name that sect or other as to their giving and share those positive messages instead of sounding like a fish monger old lady back biting another kindly lady in her block while cutting off heads of mud fish.
So instead of this market banter, what is there positive to say?
Like I say, when I get closer to such people, time and again it is clear, besides not sharing the positive they have learned but only criticism, which typically means they haven't learned anything in the first place, they actually think they should be guru.
A guru can become Guru when he's ordered by his Guru. Period. That's all. Otherwise nobody can become Guru. There is no compromise. We are all conditioned souls. You are full of conditions and you are conditional. Reading a few words here and there means nothing. What are you doing, that is the question. What is needed is sabda, sabda. Not fish monger market banter. This hearing or sabda is listening to testimony. It isn't simply listening. Testimony is telling of this saint, or that journey, or this experience, or that result. Then if it communicates, and you are changing and changed, then pratyaksa. Then you can also have direct perception, this pratyaksa. Then you share the positive, and be a message. You will never change otherwise.
Do not take modern terms such as communism created by men and call it Hinduism which is not created by men. A Guru can use such terms to compare, because they were ordered to do something by their Guru. Until you are ordered, wait on such foolishness.
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