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    Is Raja-yoga practicable in Kali-yuga?

    Namaste.

    According to Srila Prabhupada and other gaudiya-vaishnava guru,Astanta-yoga is not practicable in Kali-yuga.

    Is it true?

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    Re: Is Raja-yoga practicable in Kali-yuga?

    Vannakkam Orlando:

    I think it depends who you ask. I personally feel it is practicable, but only for a few really qualified souls. Then there are those who say or think they are practicing, but a closer look indicates they're not. Regardless, there is something to trying, that's for sure. Effort (in any sadhana) means a lot.

    But this is just my opinion.

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    Re: Is Raja-yoga practicable in Kali-yuga?

    Namaste,

    Patanjali Yoga sutras can certainly be a great aid with the study and practice of Bhagavad Gita, how much so will vary on the individual. As far as I know Patanjali yoga sutras is not widely practiced even in India although philosophically and its practical application is rooted in the same wisdom. All Dharmic traditions face challenges in a fast changing modern world, the needs and desires of people will vary aswell. Generally speaking people now lack the right type of concentration, do not have the suitable environment to cultivate the subtleties of any sadhana, some sadhana's maybe totally impracticable, or may not even resonate with the individual due to varying levels of conditioning . So at certain points the Dharma has to mold around its surroundings to fit the landscape, just like the river negotiates its way through the diverse landscape, but without losing its essence or core.


    Mediation these days is very popular, but when we compare what real meditation is, Dhyana and Samadhi from the classical descriptions of Shastra's and high level Sadhaka's it is something completely different. So the skill comes with integration on the path the gradual purification of the conditioning.

    Can Patanjali system be practiced by the general mass of people, I think not, can his teachings help evolve consciousness if integrated with another practice, I think yes.

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    Re: Is Raja-yoga practicable in Kali-yuga?

    Namaste Orlando,

    Quote Originally Posted by orlando View Post
    According to Srila Prabhupada and other gaudiya-vaishnava guru,Astanta-yoga is not practicable in Kali-yuga.

    Is it true?
    It is true for Gaudiya-Vaishnavas as the whole exercise is against their belief system. It is practicable for them neither in Kali Yuga nor in any Yuga.

    For those who follow Patanjali, it is quite practicable in all Yugas. Patanjali never said that his teachings were applicable to a certain Yuga alone.

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    Re: Is Raja-yoga practicable in Kali-yuga?

    Namaste Devotee,

    It is true for Gaudiya-Vaishnavas as the whole exercise is against their belief system. It is practicable for them neither in Kali Yuga nor in any Yuga.
    Can you provide proof, Patanjali is often quoted in Gaudia Shastra and held in high esteem, but its simply said that Asthanga Yoga is not practical widescale.

    You seem to have something personal against Gaudia.

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    Re: Is Raja-yoga practicable in Kali-yuga?

    Namaste Markandeya,

    Quote Originally Posted by markandeya 108 dasa View Post
    Can you provide proof, Patanjali is often quoted in Gaudia Shastra and held in high esteem, but its simply said that Asthanga Yoga is not practical widescale.
    Can you please tell me what is there in Patanjali Yogsutras which is not practical in Kaliyuga ? What is the authority for saying so ?

    Why should have I anything against Gaudiya ? It is simply laughable. Please read this :

    Gaudiyas believe that Lord Krishna is the Only God and serving him as a slave is the highest goal. Right ? This is in total contrast to what Patanjali says in Yogsutras. It talks of attaining various Vibhutis through Yoga and doesn't advocate acting as a slave. One leads towards Self-realisation in Samadhi whereas Gaudiya's path leads you towards Salokya in Lord Krishna's abode. If my understanding is wrong, please help me in understanding Gaudiya's path in right perspective and how they see Patanjali's Yogsutras.

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    Namaste Devotee Ji,

    I am not saying anything against Patanjali, its one of my favorite texts, but what I will support to some degree that for the majority of people to take as a sole practice it will be difficult, especially without a qualified guru. I am not carving a certain way which is best for anyone else, I'm not a guru or anything close to this, its an amazing teaching and one I carried with my whole trip to India this time, and I see in my own experience and understanding that Patanjali and Bhagavad Gita are compatible to say the least.

    What you wrote about Gaudia is totally up to you.

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    Re: Is Raja-yoga practicable in Kali-yuga?

    Namaste Markandeya,

    The Eight limbs of Patanjali are practised in one form or the other in the Traditional schools of Advaita SAdhanA including what I follow. So, if someone says (who doesn't tread the path himself) that the same is impractical ... can it be believed ?

    Most of what Patanjali says is there in Bhagwad Gita and many scriptures of VedAnta. You can have complete idea of this path in this thread :

    http://hindudharmaforums.com/showthr...o-the-Absolute

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