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    Relation between Gems and Human Body

    Namastey everyone,


    The science behind the 5 elements and their incorporation in Human body is very unique and interesting. If these 5 elements or Punchtatva's are balanced in correct proportion then it benefits an individual. The nine Ratnas or Navratnas purify the body and pacify the malefic effects of planets. Use of gemstones harmonizes the human life.


    Gemstones have the power to attract special cosmic rays. So our Body is associated to some planets during birth and hence it is also associated to Gems. Ratna or Gemstones have two types of energy: electrochemical and pranic.The Karma Puranas beautifully explains that how Gemstones affect the Human Body. Many ancient scriptures maintain about the use of Specific gemstone and its color.


    I want to know that which gems related to 9 dhatus (navratnas)?


    ~Hari Om

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    Re: Relation between Gems and Human Body

    hariḥ oṁ
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    Quote Originally Posted by Suhita View Post
    I want to know that which gems related to 9 dhatus (navratnas)?
    ~Hari Om

    You will find this information in the jyotish folder... please consider a search specifically to that folder. Try 'gem' or 'gems' as the search subject. It is there.

    iti śivaṁ
    यतस्त्वं शिवसमोऽसि
    yatastvaṁ śivasamo'si
    because you are identical with śiva

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    Re: Relation between Gems and Human Body

    Quote Originally Posted by yajvan View Post
    hariḥ oṁ
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    namasté




    You will find this information in the jyotish folder... please consider a search specifically to that folder. Try 'gem' or 'gems' as the search subject. It is there.

    iti śivaṁ
    Namastey Yajvanji,
    I got these 2 Threads,
    http://hindudharmaforums.com/showthr...udraksha+ratna
    http://hindudharmaforums.com/showthr...udraksha+ratna

    The second thread had lots of Information.
    Jataka Parijata , a monumental work by Sri Vaidyanata Dikshita, that the 9 graha¹ have associated ratna² .
    Ruby is the gem of the lord of the day Surya. Some call Aditya and some also recognize surya as bhutasya jata, the creator of all bhutas i.e. the elements.
    Pearl is the gemstone of Chandra, some call Soma.
    Red Coral is the gemstone of Mangal or Mars ( some call Kuja)
    Emerald is the gemstone of Mercury or Budha
    Yellow sapphire is the gemstone of Jupiter or Guru (many call Brihaspati).
    Diamond is the gemstone of Venus or Sukra
    Blue sapphire is the gemstone of Saturn or Sani.
    Agate ( some say Hessonite) is the gemstone of Rahu
    Lapis lazuli ( some say Cat's eye and even turquoise) is the gemstone of Ketu
    This is what you have mentioned there but no where I found about 9 Dhatus?

    ~Hari Om

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    Re: Relation between Gems and Human Body

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    namasté

    I have a slightly different view on this matter... 'different' does not mean opposing. I am just looking at the subject out of a different window of the same house.
    Let me explain if I may. The alignment to the overall subject is to the dhātu-s, the graha-s, the 'final owner', and not so much to the gems that may or may not go with the
    dhātu-s I call out below.

    Within āyurveda¹ seven dhātu-s are called out. Dhātu is defined as constituent part, ingredient; also its simplest definition means ‘fold’ or ‘layer’. So , these 7
    layers within āyurveda are fundamental to the whole body ( and mind) of the human construct. The connection to
    the graha-s are mixed. Yet a common thread at the
    very elemental level is agni. When one dhātu is out-of-whack it affects all the other
    dhātu-s down stream. No different than a production line.
    If the last operation in a line ( say an automotive assembly plant) was defective , the next operation
    that is inter-dependent on it also will be adversely influenced e.g. the
    frame of the car is bent in operation 1, so when the body of the car goes to be bolted
    in place there is mis-alignment of the holes or the body does not properly fit to the frame.

    So, when we talk of the dhātu-s and the graha-s or ~planets~ which is a very mundane name for them, there are multiple points of influence.

    A few examples
    Māṃsá dhātu. It is that of flesh, meat/muscle, tendons, the material of the heart and organs. Muscle is ~constructed ~ from earth ( budha or mercury)
    and fire ( tejas or mars ) and then becomes motive/active via air/vāyu ( owned by saturn or śani).
    Yet for this māṃsá dhātu to be constructed jaṭhara-agni,
    (the main digestive fire found within the stomach and digestive tract ) must be working properly.
    Agni is key, yet which graha then would one assign to this dhātu?
    It seems there would be primary , secondary and perhaps tirtiaty graha-s at work.


    Rasa dhātu – that of the blood. It no doubt takes on the quality of fluid as rasa = fluid or essence. The counterpart for the graha-s is venus (śukrá) and moon ( candra ) -
    some call śaśī (this term means hare-marked or rabbit. The craters on the moon can be connected as an outline). Yet the health of this rasa dhātu is predicated (once again)
    on agni. Is it śukrá or moon (candra) or śukrá & moon that would be core here?


    Agni is key to one’s body constitution. We find agni at the core of each and every dhātu: rasa, rakta, māṃsá, meda ( some write medas), aṣṭhi, majjan, and śukra.
    And what of agni’s health? It is that of prāṇa. Just like a flame, it does not work without ‘fuel’. We find this fuel in the air and in the food we eat.

    So, agni + prāṇa play a key role; they’re ‘upper management’ that influences the working dhātu’s. Yet to think that prāṇa is air is to miss a vital point:
    prāṇa = prā+aṇa = to fill + life or to fill with life (aṇa is reduced to ‘an’ ; and ana = breath).

    Who is this prāṇa ?
    If you look to the praśna upaniṣad ( chapter 2) we find prāṇa called out – ‘ it is you prāṇa as prajāpati who moves within (all) wombs as you are born repeatedly';
    and later ( section 3.8 and 3.9) prāṇa is called out as āditya ( the sun); it also calls out the 5
    prāṇa-s , other forms of the same
    prāṇa.
    Think about this… one’s total constitution is only here due to the sun. No sun, no food and therefore no human body ( based on food); And this life-force prāṇa
    that comes though breath as a carrier is prajāpati. This name prajāpati is another way to call out brahman’s impulse to create – so prajāpati is the name given as ‘the creative
    impulse’ of brahman.

    As I see it...
    Key to all dhātu’s is prāṇa + agni. And the sun is also considered ‘agni’ ( flame, fire, heat, burning). So the root of all dhātu’s comes back to one key graha the sun
    which is none other than prāṇa / prajāpati that is none other than the expression of brahman ( the Supreme).
    That is the core to all dhātu-s.


    The worker bees (graha-s)
    Back to the workers for a moment and the alignment to the graha-s. Every human constitution ( called prakṛti¹) consists of various combinations of vāta, pitta and kapha.
    This is one fundamental principle of āyurveda. Yet if we view these qualities of
    the human constitution through the eyes of jyotish we get the following:

    • vāta = vāyu + ākāśa or wind/gas + pure space or vacuity and therefore jupiter (bṛ́haspati) and saturn (śani) are in the works
    • pitta = tejas + jala¹ or fire/combustion/heat + water or fluid therefore mars (mangala) and moon/candra ( some may say venus or śukla) are in the works
    • kapha = jala +pṛthvī or water + earth and therefore moon ( or śukla/śukra) and budha ( mercury) are in the works


    Yet note that all of these qualities are expressions of the 5 mahābhūta-s ( great elements )

    • ākāśa – pure space - bṛ́haspati is considered the owner or ambassador of this tattva
    • jala – fluids/water - śukra is considered the owner or ambassador of this tattva
    • tejas – fire/flame – mangala is considered the owner or ambassador of this tattva
    • vāyu – gases/wind – śani is considered the owner or ambassador of this tattva
    • pṛtihvī – earth/solids budha is considered the owner or ambassador of this tattva


    So, all of this is connected as whole ; it is brahman wishing to express itself via an impulse (prajāpati) to create
    within itself ( for what else is there other than brahman ?) ; its main agent is prāṇa. Which when we look up it is the sun,
    and when we look within our physical structure the ‘local manager’ is agni working within the dhātu’s; and within the system
    all the worker bee’s go about their business.

    There is another view ( not different just more robust) that suggests how the 36 tattva-s, that which account for everything
    throttles down into all of the manifestation we know or even don’t know yet. We will leave that for another time.

    iti śivaṁ

    words

    • āyurveda = āyus+veda āyus –vital power , vigor , health , duration of life , long life + veda = knowledge·
    • prakṛti - nature , character , constitution , temper , disposition; prakṛtyā is then by nature , naturally , unalterably.
    • āpa is sometimes used meaning a quantity of water ( jala).
    यतस्त्वं शिवसमोऽसि
    yatastvaṁ śivasamo'si
    because you are identical with śiva

    _

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    Re: Relation between Gems and Human Body

    Quote Originally Posted by yajvan View Post
    hariḥ oṁ
    ~~~~~~

    namasté

    I have a slightly different view on this matter... 'different' does not mean opposing. I am just looking at the subject out of a different window of the same house.
    Let me explain if I may. The alignment to the overall subject is to the dhātu-s, the graha-s, the 'final owner', and not so much to the gems that may or may not go with the
    dhātu-s I call out below.

    Within āyurveda¹ seven dhātu-s are called out. Dhātu is defined as constituent part, ingredient; also its simplest definition means ‘fold’ or ‘layer’. So , these 7
    layers within āyurveda are fundamental to the whole body ( and mind) of the human construct. The connection to
    the graha-s are mixed. Yet a common thread at the
    very elemental level is agni. When one dhātu is out-of-whack it affects all the other
    dhātu-s down stream. No different than a production line.
    If the last operation in a line ( say an automotive assembly plant) was defective , the next operation
    that is inter-dependent on it also will be adversely influenced e.g. the
    frame of the car is bent in operation 1, so when the body of the car goes to be bolted
    in place there is mis-alignment of the holes or the body does not properly fit to the frame.

    So, when we talk of the dhātu-s and the graha-s or ~planets~ which is a very mundane name for them, there are multiple points of influence.

    A few examples
    Māṃsá dhātu. It is that of flesh, meat/muscle, tendons, the material of the heart and organs. Muscle is ~constructed ~ from earth ( budha or mercury)
    and fire ( tejas or mars ) and then becomes motive/active via air/vāyu ( owned by saturn or śani).
    Yet for this māṃsá dhātu to be constructed jaṭhara-agni,
    (the main digestive fire found within the stomach and digestive tract ) must be working properly.
    Agni is key, yet which graha then would one assign to this dhātu?
    It seems there would be primary , secondary and perhaps tirtiaty graha-s at work.


    Rasa dhātu – that of the blood. It no doubt takes on the quality of fluid as rasa = fluid or essence. The counterpart for the graha-s is venus (śukrá) and moon ( candra ) -
    some call śaśī (this term means hare-marked or rabbit. The craters on the moon can be connected as an outline). Yet the health of this rasa dhātu is predicated (once again)
    on agni. Is it śukrá or moon (candra) or śukrá & moon that would be core here?


    Agni is key to one’s body constitution. We find agni at the core of each and every dhātu: rasa, rakta, māṃsá, meda ( some write medas), aṣṭhi, majjan, and śukra.
    And what of agni’s health? It is that of prāṇa. Just like a flame, it does not work without ‘fuel’. We find this fuel in the air and in the food we eat.

    So, agni + prāṇa play a key role; they’re ‘upper management’ that influences the working dhātu’s. Yet to think that prāṇa is air is to miss a vital point:
    prāṇa = prā+aṇa = to fill + life or to fill with life (aṇa is reduced to ‘an’ ; and ana = breath).

    Who is this prāṇa ?
    If you look to the praśna upaniṣad ( chapter 2) we find prāṇa called out – ‘ it is you prāṇa as prajāpati who moves within (all) wombs as you are born repeatedly';
    and later ( section 3.8 and 3.9) prāṇa is called out as āditya ( the sun); it also calls out the 5
    prāṇa-s , other forms of the same
    prāṇa.
    Think about this… one’s total constitution is only here due to the sun. No sun, no food and therefore no human body ( based on food); And this life-force prāṇa
    that comes though breath as a carrier is prajāpati. This name prajāpati is another way to call out brahman’s impulse to create – so prajāpati is the name given as ‘the creative
    impulse’ of brahman.

    As I see it...
    Key to all dhātu’s is prāṇa + agni. And the sun is also considered ‘agni’ ( flame, fire, heat, burning). So the root of all dhātu’s comes back to one key graha the sun
    which is none other than prāṇa / prajāpati that is none other than the expression of brahman ( the Supreme).
    That is the core to all dhātu-s.


    The worker bees (graha-s)
    Back to the workers for a moment and the alignment to the graha-s. Every human constitution ( called prakṛti¹) consists of various combinations of vāta, pitta and kapha.
    This is one fundamental principle of āyurveda. Yet if we view these qualities of
    the human constitution through the eyes of jyotish we get the following:

    • vāta = vāyu + ākāśa or wind/gas + pure space or vacuity and therefore jupiter (bṛ́haspati) and saturn (śani) are in the works
    • pitta = tejas + jala¹ or fire/combustion/heat + water or fluid therefore mars (mangala) and moon/candra ( some may say venus or śukla) are in the works
    • kapha = jala +pṛthvī or water + earth and therefore moon ( or śukla/śukra) and budha ( mercury) are in the works


    Yet note that all of these qualities are expressions of the 5 mahābhūta-s ( great elements )

    • ākāśa – pure space - bṛ́haspati is considered the owner or ambassador of this tattva
    • jala – fluids/water - śukra is considered the owner or ambassador of this tattva
    • tejas – fire/flame – mangala is considered the owner or ambassador of this tattva
    • vāyu – gases/wind – śani is considered the owner or ambassador of this tattva
    • pṛtihvī – earth/solids budha is considered the owner or ambassador of this tattva


    So, all of this is connected as whole ; it is brahman wishing to express itself via an impulse (prajāpati) to create
    within itself ( for what else is there other than brahman ?) ; its main agent is prāṇa. Which when we look up it is the sun,
    and when we look within our physical structure the ‘local manager’ is agni working within the dhātu’s; and within the system
    all the worker bee’s go about their business.

    There is another view ( not different just more robust) that suggests how the 36 tattva-s, that which account for everything
    throttles down into all of the manifestation we know or even don’t know yet. We will leave that for another time.

    iti śivaṁ

    words

    • āyurveda = āyus+veda āyus –vital power , vigor , health , duration of life , long life + veda = knowledge·
    • prakṛti - nature , character , constitution , temper , disposition; prakṛtyā is then by nature , naturally , unalterably.
    • āpa is sometimes used meaning a quantity of water ( jala).
    I appreciate your views.
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    Re: Relation between Gems and Human Body

    Namastey to all,

    As human body is made of elements which found on our planets, so I strongly believe that there is co-relation between human body with planets. On other side Gemstones can be used for removing away the malefic influence of nine planets. That's why actually Gems have relation with human body. This is my personal view......
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    Re: Relation between Gems and Human Body

    Namastey everyone,

    I came to know about different types of gemstones and their effects in the following web page for which I am mentioning the url below.

    Please check : http://www.rudraksha-ratna.com/gemstone.html
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