Re: Which will give a better birth, and why?
Originally Posted by
Eastern Mind
Vannakkam:
Firstly, I have no authority to speak on such matters at all. Still, a few thoughts come to mind.
I apologize for the confusion. I'm not asking for any authoritative standing, but a mere discussion with some possible examples.
I have no idea what you mean by spiritual 'accomplishments'. If the focus is on accomplishing something, it seems to me it's ego boosting all around. "Oh, I accomplished this, then that, then this." This path we are on, in my view, is not like some marketplace where we get this, and then get that. But rather it is going about dharma without thought of results. So I don't understand what is meant by accomplishment in the spiritual realm.
In my language, if someone is able to go about dharma without thought of results, I would say, "he accomplished something spiritually". It is not about constantly thinking of getting somewhere as in ego-boosting, but 'wanting' to get somewhere and taking steps to get there and feeling like having gotten there (full way/half way) after significant efforts.
Point one I do get. But if that's not dharma. I have no idea what is. True, it may only be part of it.
Yes, point 1 is dharma, however, one that does not take into consideration any spiritual sadhana...
As for a rebirth, whom is to say it is because of the results of this single lifetime? My understanding is that a birth is the result of karmas accumulated and dharma performed over several lifetimes.
^This I concur with rather fully. Thanks for this.
But then what is the idea of a wondrous birth? Will a birth of wealth lead a soul further to moksha, or will a birth full of suffering? Whom is it say? If moksha is the goal, then a meritorious birth may be one where the mere opportunity to perform dharma or renounce the world to seek moksha full time is the superior re-incarnation.
I think I did not adequately convey this point in the OP. For vast majority of people, a wondrous birth is purely material success. For a few spiritual minded people, it is one of spiritual progress. For someone like me, a wondrous birth is one that gives all-around success - both materialistically as well as spiritually (as in acquisition of a virtuous disposition).
I thank you many fold for your reply, I will look upon it for further insight!
Aum Namasivaya
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