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    Shaiva Gyana - Shaiva Wisdom

    Namaste,

    I’m sharing some things I learnt in my study.

    Firstly,I'll begin with an obeisance to the devotees of Lord Shiva.

    शैव ज्ञान जिज्ञासि नमस्ते नमोस्तुते
    śaiva jñāna jijñāsi namaste namostute

    Salutation to the Shaivas,O devotees of Lord Shiva.
    Saluations to you,the earnest seekers of Shiva jnana.


    (Saint Sri Sundara Nayanar expresses his devotion to the devotees of Lord Shiva in a heartful manner in Thiruthondarthokai,
    ”thillaivAz an^dhaNartham adiyArkkum adiyEn…..” -
    "I offer myself as the servant of the devotees of the Lord of Thillai forest,to them all and to Shiva,I am a serviteur."


    And only then he says,
    "Salutations to the Divine Raised Foot of the Lord who dances blissfully in the golden hall of Thillai.")

    Why must we offer our respect to Shiva Bhaktas?

    For he/she is the repository of Shiva Gnana & Shiva Bhakti.Lord Shiva is found in the heart of sincere devotees and not elsewhere.Where the devoted reside,certainly Shiva resides there.

    What is Shiva Jnana?

    The Shastras say:

    शिवप्रकाशकं ज्ञानं शिवज्ञानं परं स्मृतं
    shivaprakAshakaM j~nAnaM shivaj~nAnaM paraM smR^itaM


    That supreme knowledge which reveals the exact nature of the Supreme Soul Shiva,the individual souls,the fetters that bind them in Samsara and ultimately the means of liberation,is Shiva Gyana.This liberating Shaiva wisdom is Para i.e. transcendental and higher than the others.

    Who is Shiva?



    shivo guru: shivo deva: shivo bandhu: sharIriNAm |
    shiva AtmA shivo jIva: shivAdanyanna ki~nchana ||


    The noble Sage declared thus,

    "Shiva is the preceptor,Shiva is the Lord,Shiva is kinsman of all beings,
    Shiva is Paramatman(the Supreme Soul),Shiva is Jivatma(individual soul).
    There is nothing else other than Shiva i.e. all that exists is Shiva".


    Last edited by Ram11; 13 March 2016 at 12:17 PM. Reason: misc
    He dances in the golden hall of Chidambaram, Let us worship His rosy anklet girt Feet.

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    Re: Shaiva Gyana - Shaiva Wisdom

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    Quote Originally Posted by Ram11 View Post

    I’m sharing some things I learnt in my study.

    Firstly, I'll begin with an obeisance to the devotees of Lord Shiva.

    शैव ज्ञान जिज्ञासि नमस्ते नमोस्तुते
    śaiva jñāna jijñāsi namaste namostute

    Salutation to the Shaivas,O devotees of Lord Shiva.
    Saluations to you,the earnest seekers of Shiva jnana.

    I am offering the following based on your earnest study...

    Please consider the following for your translation... note :

    • jñāna and its core jñā - this means 'to know', to perceive , apprehend , understand ; to recognize as one's own , take possession of
    • jijñāsi - it can be looked at this way ji+ jñā + si or ji+ jñā + asi
      • ​ji to win or acquire ; to be victorious ; it to is the expletive ' long live!'
      • jñā we have defined as 'to know', to recognize as one's own
      • si - 'to bind , tie'
      • asi - a sword or knife; if long ā , then āsi =to wrap or pack up.


    With these insights to the words, would you keep the same translation offered ? It is my opinion there are no 'seekers' but those
    that know; it is those that are being hailed ( ji long live! ) it is those that have been victorious (ji); it is those that have
    cut (asi) the binds (si) and ties of ignorance. I bow to them (namaste), they are being praised (stuta ) & celebrated,
    it is to them we bow (namas¹) & give salutation.

    ... my opinion only.


    इतिशिवं
    iti śivaṁ

    1. Some may see this namostute as namas + stute ; namas becomes namaby the rules of saṃdhi and we then have namastute

    यतस्त्वं शिवसमोऽसि
    yatastvaṁ śivasamo'si
    because you are identical with śiva

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    Quote Originally Posted by yajvan View Post
    hariḥ oṁ
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    namasté

    I am offering the following based on your earnest study...

    Please consider the following for your translation... note :

    • jñāna and its core jñā - this means 'to know', to perceive , apprehend , understand ; to recognize as one's own , take possession of
    • jijñāsi - it can be looked at this way ji+ jñā + si or ji+ jñā + asi
      • ​ji to win or acquire ; to be victorious ; it to is the expletive ' long live!'
      • jñā we have defined as 'to know', to recognize as one's own
      • si - 'to bind , tie'
      • asi - a sword or knife; if long ā , then āsi =to wrap or pack up.



    With these insights to the words, would you keep the same translation offered ? It is my opinion there are no 'seekers' but those
    that know; it is those that are being hailed ( ji long live! ) it is those that have been victorious (ji); it is those that have
    cut (asi) the binds (si) and ties of ignorance. I bow to them (namaste), they are being praised (stuta ) & celebrated,
    it is to them we bow (namas¹) & give salutation.

    ... my opinion only.

    इतिशिवं
    iti śivaṁ

    1. Some may see this namostute as namas + stute ; namas becomes namaby the rules of saṃdhi and we then have namastute



    Namaste Yajvan Ji,

    I gave this rough translation based on three sources (MW and two local Nighantus) I consulted.





    Based on the above,I’ve gone for Jignyasu as seeker.I’ve used ‘earnest’ here in a different sense.The scriptures say that unlike mundane subjects which are easily available, Shaiva Gyana is very hard to come by and is attained depending on the sincerity of the seeker,therefore an individual aspiring for such wisdom is an ‘earnest seeker’. I’ve not gone into the constituents of the word as I lack that expertise.Thanks for correcting.

    He dances in the golden hall of Chidambaram, Let us worship His rosy anklet girt Feet.

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    Re: Shaiva Gyana - Shaiva Wisdom

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    Quote Originally Posted by Ram11 View Post
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    Namaste Yajvan Ji,

    I gave this rough translation based on three sources (MW and two local Nighantus) I consulted.
    Based on the above,I’ve gone for Jignyasu as seeker.I’ve used ‘earnest’ here in a different sense.The scriptures say that unlike mundane subjects which are easily available, Shaiva Gyana is very hard to come by and is attained depending on the sincerity of the seeker,therefore an individual aspiring for such wisdom is an ‘earnest seeker’. I’ve not gone into the constituents of the word as I lack that expertise.Thanks for correcting.
    First I think you did a fine job. My intent is to allow one to look at it from another vantage point, a bit deeper . I pass this along
    as this is what others were kind enough to offer me, we pass it along.


    इतिशिवं
    iti śivaṁ
    यतस्त्वं शिवसमोऽसि
    yatastvaṁ śivasamo'si
    because you are identical with śiva

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    Quote Originally Posted by yajvan View Post
    hariḥ oṁ
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    namasté

    First I think you did a fine job. My intent is to allow one to look at it from another vantage point, a bit deeper . I pass this along
    as this is what others were kind enough to offer me, we pass it along.

    इतिशिवं

    iti śivaṁ
    Namaste Yajvan Ji,

    If you hadn’t given this view,I wouldn’t have known that the Jignyasi is one that has untied the pasha.Your explanation of the term provides an opportunity for us to see beneath the surface,I’m grateful to receive these insights from you.
    He dances in the golden hall of Chidambaram, Let us worship His rosy anklet girt Feet.

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    Namaste,

    ādyāyāmitatejase śrutipadairvedyāya sādhyāya te
    vidyānandamayātmane trijagataḥ saṁrakśaṇodyogine |
    dhyeyāyākhilayogibhiḥ suragaṇairgeyāya māyāvine
    samyaktāṇḍavasaṁbhramāya jaṭine seyaṁ natiḥ śaṁbhave ||

    आद्यायामिततेजसे श्रुतिपदैर्वेद्याय साध्याय ते विद्यानन्दमयात्मने त्रिजगतः संरक्षणोद्योगिने ।
    ध्येयायाखिलयोगिभिः सुरगणैर्गेयाय मायाविने सम्यक्ताण्डवसंभ्रमाय जटिने सेयं नतिः शंभवे ॥


    seyaṁ natiḥ : My prostrations to You

    ādyāyā ~ Adideva
    : Who is the first i.e. the One who existed before all came into existance (the source of all)


    āmitatejase ~ Mahatejasvanta : Whose splendor is incomparable

    śrutipadairvedyāya ~ Veda gochara
    : Who is known by the Vedas and Vedanta Mahavakyas such as Sarvam Khalvidam Brahma (yet whose complete glory even the Vedas couldn't describe i.e. Manovachamaghocara - the one beyond words)

    sādhyāya ~ Mahaphala : Who is attained by various paths such as
    Bhakti(Devotion),Gnana(Wisdom),Dhyana(Meditation),Puja(Worship),Karma marga,Yoga,Tapas etc.

    vidyānandamayātmane ~ Sacchidananda Parabrahma/Atmavidya Swarupa :
    the Paramatman(Universal soul) who is of the form of Supreme Knowledge and Bliss

    trijagataḥ saṁrakśaṇodyogine ~ Bhaktavatsala : Who is concerned about the beings of the three worlds

    dhyeyāyākhilayogibhiḥ ~ Yogishvara : Who is meditated on by all Yogis

    suragaṇairgeyāya ~ Sarvadevatarchita paadaravinda : By constantly singing whose glory the
    congregation of Devas-Brahma,Vishnu,Indra etc. get delight

    māyāvine ~ Parvati Svamin
    : Who along with the Goddess Shakti is the cause of creation,protection,dissolution,concealment and liberation

    samyaktāṇḍavasaṁbhramāya ~ Nataraja : Who enjoys dance - by whose vibration everything is
    activated

    jaṭine ~ Atisundara jatamakutadhara : Who has beautiful matted locks

    śaṁbhave ~ Shambhu Mahadeva : the personification of good,the Lord who bestows happiness on His devotees.

    He dances in the golden hall of Chidambaram, Let us worship His rosy anklet girt Feet.

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