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    Re: Need spiritual help

    Namaste Viraj Ji,

    I am not trying to convince you or anyone to not to do any practice in mantra or recitation, but what is the fruit, the fruit will be an insight, where we gain inner knowledge into ego or jealously and hatred but also something more something greater, less bound by conditions. So Kleshas will be reduced automatically, i dont see it requires a separate of concentrated effort when doing Mantra or devotion, the mantras raise the vibration, that raised vibration should aid settled and steady mind for meditation, in that stage of meditation insight arises, then the mantra has more depth and we see not only does it resolves the tedious condition of kleshas but also it radiates more knowledge, new light, something deeper, if that support is found, then where can ego, jealousy and ignorance stand, they wont have a place to stand so it is resolved through insight and higher consciousness and the stotras and mantras aid this.

    My other point which was a question too, is why so many, why would Hanuman Chalisa not be enough, why need another one, If I chant Narasingha Kavacha or Narayana Kavacha, would I need some more, would it not have the right power to solve the tedious mini crisis of Kelisha.

    Even though the power of the mantra is there, and it is Absolute there would be a quality of consciousness that we need to be aware of for elevation, some can chant and recite for billions of years like a parrot and get no benefit, while others can hear one or two syllable and get the highest rewards, why is that.

    And I see these stotras as which practices are revelations of conscious energy in states of Samadhi, where the Lord by His conscious energy we become very aware of the Him through Sabda, that is what is destroying the Kleshas with His light higher consciousness. Mostly what happens with Mantra is that it suppressing the mind for a short while to prepare for meditation.
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    Re: Need spiritual help

    Namaste,

    Everything in the discussion sounds valid.

    For chanting to be effective, the devotee has to be receptive. In this case however, Viraja has an undying faith in the Divine and is spiritually a cut above the common people. So, she is already very receptive to Divine vibrations emanating from chanting. Our esteemed members have given general comments and not tailored their responses to Viraja. Long, wordy, generic posts become incomrehensive and lose their ability to convey what the poster is trying to say.

    Pranam.

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    Re: Need spiritual help

    Hari Om

    Just want to share this verse from Kulasekara Alwar‘s Mukunda Mala with you.

    Mantra which kills all enemies,
    Mantra which is worshipped by each and every word of Upanishads,
    Mantra which cuts the bonds of the world,
    Mantra which drives away the darkness of ignorance,
    Mantra which helps in attaining all riches,
    Mantra which cures the snake bite of worldly worries is the name of Sri Krishna.
    And so tongue, always chant it and get deliverance from life.

    Hare Krishna
    Dance with Shiva - live with Shiva - merge with Shiva

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    Re: Need spiritual help

    Thanks for everyone who participated in this thread!

    Even if not clarificatory, it arises pertinent questions we may want to check with the learned.

    @Believer ji: Thank you so much! I take it as a compliment that you mentioned about my faith in such a positive note! I feel very happy.

    @MD ji: You have asked, why should we not worship the same Ananthapadmanaabha and get rid of personality defects. I choose to answer you via 2 points:

    1. Why do people pray to mother Lakshmi for wealth? Is Narayana incapable of giving wealth? Why should we pray to Hanuman for courage, strength and valor? Why cannot Narayana alone give them all?

    The way I see it, yes, Narayana can give them all. But, once we know there are 'specialists', we can check with them, atleast casually, if we have the means to, is it not? Maybe it can give us quicker results, maybe this is the reason why they chose to manifest themselves as 'specialists' in the first place!!

    2. Why cannot I recite Narayana mantra and take to devotion to him, and get rid of my personality flaws?

    By no means I said anywhere, that I am not praying to Narayana for these benefits currently. I am doing that, quite infact, for a very long time... It just so happens that I am in search of a specialist and a special remedial mantra 'in addition' to what I am currently doing, because ultimately it gives me satisfaction, that I am taking all possible measures and having overlooked that if there is some stothra and a prayers attuned to my needs, I am also doing that subsequently. To an onlooker, this step might be like a placebo, but in spirituality, nothing is a placebo. If Narayaneeyam can cure stomach ailment, there is nothing wrong with a sick man inflicted with pain, to look out for it and procure it!

    @IndiaLover: I am not saying your point is incorrect, but to my belief, that I have read from many sources, certain mantras and stothras can act very beneficial for certain purposes. You might have heard that siksha gurus give out "particular" mantra, individually tailored to each aspirant! Why should he give special mantra, that is to be kept sacred in the first place? Is not one "Hare Krishna" or "one Narayana mantra" be effective by itself, when chanted numerous times with faith and devotion? My answer to this question is that, maybe there is something special indeed about that siksha mantra, that the guru is capable of redeeming the aspirant faster with it than not. And my search is similar to this.

    So, you can see, such a search gives me satisfaction at many levels - that I am doing the right thing, and that I am doing it in addition to what can be done without it.

    Thanks,

    Viraja
    jai hanuman gyan gun sagar jai kapis tihu lok ujagar

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    Re: Need spiritual help

    Hari Om!

    Your being one of faith and believing in God, may I suggest praying to Guru for guidance and delivery? Quite honestly, He has all power and your faith in Him is the answer to all that ills.

    Perhaps you are not graced with Guru?

    Om

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    Namaste C.Smith,

    By Guru, do you mean Medha Dakshinamoorthy? No, I haven't tried that. But, I pray everyday to Shri Hanuman whom I reckon as a form of a Guru.

    They say that as per Ramayana, Shri Hanuman is the bringer of the 'token' of ring to Sita (troubled soul) from Rama (paramatman) and many equate this event with the 'mantra' a guru would give to a disciple. Therefore my prayers to Shri Hanuman.
    jai hanuman gyan gun sagar jai kapis tihu lok ujagar

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    Re: Need spiritual help

    Hari Om!

    Viraja Ji,

    Your kind reply is appreciated and totally accept your assessment of Sri Hanuman.

    Was however speaking more specifically to a living/embodied Guru in which you have taken diksha. If you have taken this path, you may understand my suggestion. If not, perhaps not. Either way, forgive if off target as can only give what is true for me and those that surround.

    All the best.

    Om

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    C.Smith ji,

    No, I have not had the blessing so far to meet with a guru.

    I am currently looking into this: http://vedicastrologer.org/fire/index.htm. Supposedly fire worship brings about internal transformation quicker than other means!

    Thank you,

    Viraja
    jai hanuman gyan gun sagar jai kapis tihu lok ujagar

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    Re: Need spiritual help

    Dear Viraja,
    although having no experience in Mantras I would be happy if you find what you are searching for.

    What about this - I do not have any idea who this lady is, but may be ...
    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bbTfogBzZ3Y

    May be this astrologer can recommend a mantra.
    http://www.astrojyoti.com/

    All the best!
    Indialover
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    Re: Need spiritual help

    Namaste IndiaLover,

    What a great find! I'll surely look into that mantra.

    Thanks,

    Viraja
    jai hanuman gyan gun sagar jai kapis tihu lok ujagar

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