Namaste Believer Ji,
I didnt say I opposed other members comments, only that sometimes these types of issue can act as a positive platform to perhaps discuss some issues.
Is cheating happening, do large business's fail, the answer to both is yes, both on small scales and large scales, but doesnt it always start within the individual, when the economic crisis happened in America, even large corporations more or less disappeared over night, there are many stories when people went from riches to rags, it happens, and when these things happen the world can often be a lonely place with no support, I am sure here people know these things happen.
But what good can we produce from discussing and reflecting in this. Is it just a Hindu problem, a Muslim, Christian, Atheistic, materialism problem. How can we identify the problem, the causes and ultimately the solution.
In Bhagavad Gita Sri Krsna himself declares
TEXT 48
saha-jam karma kaunteya
sa-dosam api na tyajet
sarvarambha hi dosena
dhumenagnir ivavrtah
There are a number of translations for this verse so I will leave it up to individual thoughts. i will just add that if we want to find fault even within good endeavors that people do its all to easy.
One of the main issues I get from posts like this regardless of intention is the state of affairs in the world, one comment I heard is that there are two types of people in this world, the cheaters and the cheated, but maybe those qualities to different degrees exists within us, unless we are jivanmukta, and this is extremely rare.
Are community and family values on the decline, are cultures under threat due to modern materialism which to me seems only to increase the power of the individual and greed. America for example which is seen as the pinnacle of modern advancement has some of the highest rates of mental health issues, so materialism in and of itself doesnt work.
Are there problems in Hinduism, I am sure there are, like most cultures, countries and societies, we live in a world of duality. Sometimes its a sign of a healthy and strong culture of society to take some criticism on board, the same as us as individuals, to check upon oneself to see if there can be advancement. If there is over sensitivity its almost like a denial. So there should be some degree of self reflection.
Two years ago I did 3 weeks on padayatra in Andra Pradesh, I talked to as many people as possible about the growing rise of Christian converts, I spoke with both Hindu and Indian Christian converts, many converts feel let down by Hindu society, and to stop the conversion the only solution is to build a more healthy community and dharmic way within their natural culture and way of life, then the power to stop conversion is solved just by this, that was my conclusion after to speaking and listening to both sides as evenly as possible.
What I have noticed within the Muslim world for example is since there has been a lot of character assination due to agendas they have tried to label them as terrorists or a sub species, this is highly unfair, and part of that reaction is that many Muslims have had a point to prove that they are in fact in the majority just normal people following their faith and way and have grown stronger in many areas due to that criticism. On the negative side it breeds more hate, and then we have all sorts of serious issues.
The same as happened in India, many Hindus in India when I have been there have said that when they see Western People follow their culture it gives them a sense of pride and they too become inspired or it injects some energy in their own culture, if that dynamic is increased in good cooperation then we have a great model for modern society and all its challenges.
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When I read posts say by Shiv5, the first thing that comes to my mind is that do these issues exist in me, have I ever said or thought that another person is suffering due to their karma, or its kali yuga so what can I do, is it a excuse to not do something to try our best to help out, not just on the internet, thats often to remote, but within our own close circles, how often do we put ourself in other peoples shoes with honesty. Where is the limit to self improvement.
I am just posing some thoughts.
Pranam
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