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    Meditating with Krishna?

    I'm just curious about how meditation fits with Krishna? What is the purpose of meditating for Krishna? I understand it helps strengthen mind but what exactly is the goal?

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    Namaste!

    Although I come from an American Buddhist perspective (Influenced by places and traditions like Gyobutsuji Zen Monastery & Thai Forest Theravada - Ajahn Chah lineage)

    There is a saying in Zen and sometimes greater Buddhist circles (That in meditation one starts to let "Life live through you").

    I think in the process of "Meditating with Krishna" you will begin to understand the nature of identity more, probe into fundamental subjects like the nature of awareness, Self/Not Self, and Compassion and End of Suffering may blossom from liberating insight.

    Hope your meditation goes well!

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    hariḥ oṁ
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    Within the śrīmad bhāgavad gītā1 kṛṣṇaḥ-jī informs us of the following:

    ahamātmā guḍākeśa sarvabhūtāśayasthitaḥ |
    aham ādiśca madhyaṃ ca bhūtānāmanta eva ca
    || 10.20
    I am the Self (ātmā, soul, pure Being) O’guḍākeśa!2 of all beings (bhūta3), seated (sthitaḥ4) within (āśaya). I am the beginning, middle and end of all beings.

    Now why mention this? Due to this:
    I'm just curious about how meditation fits with Krishna? What is the purpose of meditating for Krishna?

    Net:net - you cannot meditate 'for him' nor can you meditate or exist beyond him (kṛṣṇaḥ-jī). How so? He is your very being. Try to exist without your own Self. What would you be? You see the core of 'you' is Being, and that is Self;per verse 10.20 kṛṣṇaḥ-jī is that very Self ( there is no two).
    What then is your responsibility ( say the wise) ?
    know thy Self and one automatically comes to know the Lord.

    इतिशिवं
    iti śivaṁ

    1. gītā = song or a song; if written as gīta ( no long ā) that = singing. Hence the śrīmad bhāgavad gītā is the song of the lord.
    2. guḍākeśa - this is another name for arjuna.
    3. bhūta – beings; this is not limit to human beings only. In fact bhūta (being) is also defined as pure, mixed or joined. It also defined as ‘that which is or exists’.
    4. sthitaḥ = I used seated; it also means residing, resting or abiding
    यतस्त्वं शिवसमोऽसि
    yatastvaṁ śivasamo'si
    because you are identical with śiva

    _

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    Quote Originally Posted by yajvan View Post
    hariḥ oṁ
    ~~~~~~
    namasté

    Within the śrīmad bhāgavad gītā1 kṛṣṇaḥ-jī informs us of the following:

    ahamātmā guḍākeśa sarvabhūtāśayasthitaḥ |
    aham ādiśca madhyaṃ ca bhūtānāmanta eva ca
    || 10.20
    I am the Self (ātmā, soul, pure Being) O’guḍākeśa!2 of all beings (bhūta3), seated (sthitaḥ4) within (āśaya). I am the beginning, middle and end of all beings.

    Now why mention this? Due to this:
    Net:net - you cannot meditate 'for him' nor can you meditate or exist beyond him (kṛṣṇaḥ-jī). How so? He is your very being. Try to exist without your own Self. What would you be? You see the core of 'you' is Being, and that is Self;per verse 10.20 kṛṣṇaḥ-jī is that very Self ( there is no two).
    What then is your responsibility ( say the wise) ?
    know thy Self and one automatically comes to know the Lord.

    इतिशिवं
    iti śivaṁ

    1. gītā = song or a song; if written as gīta ( no long ā) that = singing. Hence the śrīmad bhāgavad gītā is the song of the lord.
    2. guḍākeśa - this is another name for arjuna.
    3. bhūta – beings; this is not limit to human beings only. In fact bhūta (being) is also defined as pure, mixed or joined. It also defined as ‘that which is or exists’.
    4. sthitaḥ = I used seated; it also means residing, resting or abiding
    So what am I meditating about? What am I trying to accomplish? Just a blank mind? Knowledge of self? what?

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    Re: Meditating with Krishna?

    hariḥ oṁ
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    Quote Originally Posted by Tirisilex View Post
    So what am I meditating about? What am I trying to accomplish? Just a blank mind? Knowledge of self? what?
    I am not absolutely certain I comprehend your question... let me ask this: At some point you began some program, some upāyaḥ1 ( method, technique) to reach some aim ( upeya2) ; what do you believe it was? What do you believe you are looking for? Let's start there.

    Now, why do I mention this? It is based upon your post in another folder:
    I'm first and foremost Buddhist.. Buddhism puts everything into perspective for me. I work with Hindu Gods/Goddesses doing pujas and such.. And I rely on Christianity as well.. So I operate using 3 different religions and I have no problems about who I should be labeled as. The Divine will accept you as long as you are true to the Divine. So be true to the Divine and not worry about what label you should identify with.

    Do you see my point ?

    इतिशिवं
    iti śivaṁ


    1. upāyaḥ = ablative case ‘on the acct of’ the means or upāyaḥ , not upāyae which is ‘for the sake of’ the means
    2. upeya = the ‘aimed at’ the goal; therefore upeyaḥ vs for the sake of the goal upeyaḥ
    यतस्त्वं शिवसमोऽसि
    yatastvaṁ śivasamo'si
    because you are identical with śiva

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    So you're saying that Meditation is seeking the Divine?

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