Re: Out of various elements of our existence, how is intellect increasing ?
hariḥ oṁ
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namasté sanathanadharma & kallol
Originally Posted by
kallol
Time + Pradhana = Prakruthi. Time is connected to creation. In between creations Pradhana remain inactive, just as in seeds.
Without going too far from the essential questions being discussed in this string let me pose the following:
If time is an ~ element~ ( as suggested in 'time + pradhana' formula above ), an essential part, therefore a tattva (or that-ness) can you offer where this time is called out in the saṃkhya school of thought or perhaps in the trika school ( also known as kaśmir śaivism some call trika śāstra).
In the saṃkhya school 24 to 25 tattva's are recognized ; in the trika śāstra 36 tattva’s ( with 2 to 3 more also recognized) are called out.
I am not taking issue with any conversation here... yet this time is quite important. Even kṛṣṇaḥ-jī informs us in the bhāgavadgītā 2
kālo'smi lokakṣayakṛtpravṛddho lokānsamāhartumiha pravṛttaḥ|
ṛte'pi tvāṃ na bhaviṣyanti sarve ye'vasthitāḥ pratyanīkeṣu yodhāḥ || 11.32
I am time (kālo'smi) ...
Yet to understand this, we must consider time as kālaḥ or destroying all things , death. Within this same verse kṛṣṇaḥ-jī continues and says I am the destroyer of worlds (lokakṣaya - dwelling place + world). Hence 'I am death, the destroyer of all things' seems a reasonable translation to consider.
back to time1
When it comes to time , whose time are we looking at? On earth we think of a day as one rotation of the earth. Yet this does not hold the same value for a rotation on Jupiter or Venus. We think of one year as one trip around the sun ( 365 days); yet think of one rotation (one year) of our galaxy . That would be one year for the galaxy , no? But in earth years that would take 230 million years. The point is were is the final unit of time that is universal ( without getting into planck time3 ) ?
So, yajvan what is your point?
Time is our (human-made) measure to meter out or measure eternity . That is the true time , ananta ( endless) without break or pause; it is śeṣa or vāsuki. And, this now makes sense that viṣṇu ( meaning all pervading) rests on ananta ( endless) eternity.
शिवःकरोतिसर्वम्
śivaḥkarotisarvam
1. time can be kāla (to calculate or enumerate i.e. time) or velā (limit of time , period , season , time of day)
2. verse 11.32
कालोऽस्मि लोकक्षयकृत्प्रवृद्धो लोकान्समाहर्तुमिह प्रवृत्तः।
ऋतेऽपि त्वां न भविष्यन्ति सर्वे येऽवस्थिताः प्रत्यनीकेषु योधाः।।11.32।।
3. planck time - Planck unit is the time required for light to travel in a vacuum a distance of 1 planck length; again a human construct ( brilliant to say the least!)
Last edited by yajvan; 11 March 2018 at 01:07 PM.
यतस्त्वं शिवसमोऽसि
yatastvaṁ śivasamo'si
because you are identical with śiva
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