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    Re: Out of various elements of our existence, how is intellect increasing ?

    "Does it talk about the micro evolution of the intellect ?" can you please elaborate on the term micro evolution so that i can answer your question...

    continuing..we were discussing the term "impression".....this is one of the prime ingredients which constitutes as a catalyst in the evolution of intellect and mind....
    the impression can be seen in two dimensions
    - depth
    - imprinted essence

    whenever the data is collected and processed by the intellect, it can be stored with a value assigned for both depth and imprinted essence...when we recollect[smarana] anything very constantly the value of depth increases greatly...also all the characteristics of the "data" which is remembered will create an imprint which can also be referred to as "Vaasana"..Smrithi which is the lakshana of budhi creates a deep and long lasting imprint based on how repeatedly a data is recollected...

    lets take a few examples here for the though processing...
    - without being harmed by some animals, how is it that many are afraid of some particular animals[example: many are afraid of seeing a cockroach and they are clueless as to why they are afraid]
    - how does the inclination towards certain food happen
    - how does inclination towards certain behavior[being kind, cruel, etc] occur
    - how is it that only a few people have the thirst for real knowledge while others blissfully ignore it

    the intellect not only evolves but also gets conditioned by the impressions and the depth of it...evolution is over janmas...its a long process...its a very complicated process ...however no matter how long it takes, there exists an end point for this evolution when the state of reality is realized....

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    Thanks for the wonderful information and also the patience. It helped me expand my understanding also.

    Now I was thinking about the right way to put it up. What is the right question that is bugging me ?

    If I see the evolution has happened from inert (so called) 5 elements to human.

    The evoulution went from single cell to complex human being with lots of intelligence. The DNA changed, the course changed and it is more like an uncontrolled in micro sense but controlled in macro sense.

    The movement from mono cell to human had that incorporation of learning, changing, evolving, stabilizing and then again changing so on on and so forth. A huge amount of intelligence is playing a role in this. Is the entire intelligence - internal from the beginning ? That is, did the mono cells already had that intelligence ? Or it is external ?

    How it is guided through the journey of changes to human being ? who is controlling the changes and how ?

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    Re: Out of various elements of our existence, how is intellect increasing ?

    Namaste

    Thanks for putting forward your thoughts which led to this discussion...

    "If I see the evolution has happened from inert (so called) 5 elements to human."
    If you are referring to the human materialistic body, then yes. However the subtle elements along with other entities and the 5 Maha Bhuta have evolved from the principle three gunas.

    "The evolution went from single cell to complex human being with lots of intelligence. The DNA changed, the course changed and it is more like an uncontrolled in micro sense but controlled in macro sense. "

    Yes, very well put.

    "A huge amount of intelligence is playing a role in this. Is the entire intelligence - internal from the beginning ? That is, did the mono cells already had that intelligence ? Or it is external ?"
    Paramathma is often defined as "ANor ANiya Mahato Mahima" He is present in the smallest of the particles as the fundamental building particle and is the force that defines, binds, controls,sustains and destroys the biggest of the big...everything that exists in this universe is present in Him and He is present in everything inside and beyond...

    lets again get back to the computer example which we discussed sometime back...lets take the term "pixel" on a electronic screen...every pixel has a RGB value...these pixels when defined together by an "intelligent algorithm" gives a shape, color and defines the features of an entity...now there are two kinds of knowledge-intelligence present at this level
    - the internal intelligence that defines the R G B value and the self boundary value to be inherent in every pixel
    - the external intelligence that defines the shape, color and features of an entity that must be represented on a screen using the smaller pixels...
    on the similar lines, every cell will have inherent level of internal intelligence in it where the Paramathma resides as the fundamental block of a materialistic fundamental block
    and then there exists a greater external intelligence which defines the complex entity from outside

    as the beautiful Narayana sukta says
    Yachcha kinchid jagat sarvam drusyathe sruyathe bhi vaa,
    Antharbahischa tatsarva vyapya narayana sthitha.

    Every possible entity that exists in this universe that can be perceived[seen, heard etc]
    Every possible thing that is inside and outside, all of that which exists is surrounded and is present in Narayana

    its only because He is present in everything and everything is under Him, the entire system, which looks autonomous although is very carefully and completely controlled, functions as it functions...

    As Sri Vaasudeva very beautifully says in Bhagavad Gita [7.7]

    Mayi sarwam idam protam sutre mani-gana iva

    Everything that exists is connected to Me like the pearls on a string...

    "How it is guided through the journey of changes to human being ? " can you please elaborate a bit more

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    Re: Out of various elements of our existence, how is intellect increasing ?

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    Best Wishes.

    Your answer provides me to correlate and opens up a new thought to approach this phenomenon of the movement from mono cell to human being.

    However, not sure that every time it will be human being or different. Is human being - by chance or by design ?

    If by design, then the path to it is defined or undefined ?

    This part, still requires some stimuli from you.

    Another point.

    As consciousness does not directly take part in the activities, though it does through many manifestations, is it possible that these 5 elements play a significant role in the evolution - as you mentioned external intelligence ?

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    "Is human being - by chance or by design ? "

    The short answer is definitely by design..lets get into the detailed one..

    the entire hierarchy of materialistic entities which have an existence in this framework called universe is very well defined and accurately designed...this framework of Prakruthi consists of a strong righteous protocol called "dharma" and these set of rules are applied inside Prakruthi depending on the dynamic parameters which come along the entity that needs materialistic birth..lets understand in detail...

    starting from the single cell micro organisms to the most advanced materialistic body of Chatur-mukha Bramha, the hierarchy is very well defined...lets take the materialistic human body for our case study for better understanding

    The term "human body" is an complex object which has multiple sets of sub classes and variables in it
    Complex object : Human Body
    - Class Gender
    Variable Gender Difference : Exists
    Variable Gender Value : [Male/Female]
    - Class Dimensions
    - Sub Class Height
    - Sub Class Minimum
    - Sub Class Maximum
    - Class Weight
    .....
    - Class Color
    - Sub Class Skin
    - Sub Class Hair
    - Sub Class Eyes
    .....
    ......
    - Class Strengths
    - Class Weakness
    - Class Organs
    - Sub Class Sense
    - .......

    Many nested classes and sub classes are well defined and the leaf level sub class will have variables
    The variables are either set to
    - binary values [Example - Tail: Yes-Exists/No-Does not exist]
    - definition values [Example - Gender : Male/Female]
    - regular values with ranges [Example - Color of eyes : Black]

    This architecture is very well designed and based on different combinations the term "feature" is defined too.

    Such definition and design blueprint is already laid out for all kinds of entities in this framework[Sri Vishnu Purana enumerates different kinds of species and categories them systematically]. The values that will be input into each of these classes, sub classes and the variables is decided by the most complicated algorithm which Paramathma has implemented based on the righteous protocol of "Dharma" and the set of parameters every entity brings in...

    shall continue in the next post...

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    Will look forward to next post

    It is interesting to note that human being is by design. Again as human being being the only loka where the state of mind can be changed i.e. it has combination of enjoyment of fruits of karma and also change the state of mind. Rest as I know are only designed for enjoyment of the karma fruits. When you say evolution will reach state of Bramha, is it that human will become more knowledgeable and intelligent ? or something else

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    Re: Out of various elements of our existence, how is intellect increasing ?

    continuing...

    The most important parameters every Jeeva carries from one materialistic body to another is the "paapah and punyah karma phala"...the ledger that has details about the previous actions and the related results' definitions which the Jeeva will experience partially or fully after getting embedded in the next body...

    A very complicated data structure and an even more complicated algorithm under the protocol of Dharma are used to choose the kind and assign the values to every materialistic body..
    The subtle elements like mind, intellect etc however "resume" from the previously "conditioned and evolved state"...once the subtle elements are embedded inside a particular materialistic body, the evolution of intellect continues either in the positive direction or negative direction...

    This framework called "materialistic body" influences the conditioning and evolution of subtle elements in a very strong way..

    "When you say evolution will reach state of Bramha, is it that human will become more knowledgeable and intelligent ? or something else"
    we have a fundamental differentiation that must be strictly made to understand things ...
    human - is defined with respect the materialistic body[excluding subtle elements of Jeeva and the Aatma]
    JeevaAatma - which is the subtle elements + Aatma[instance of Paramathma]

    When a Jeeva is assigned a human body which it has earned from its previous actions, this human body framework has hardware that helps and supports the Jeeva tremendously when compared to other lower forms of materialistic bodies...

    The physical structure of cells at all levels provides more support for the subtle elements to explore and evolve.. the intellect which enters a human body has the hardware setup to make itself more knowledgeable and intelligent...however its left to the mind and the environment in which it will exist to determine if the intellect will gain better knowledge or waste yet another life...

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    Re: Out of various elements of our existence, how is intellect increasing ?

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    Yes every action contributes towards the different aspects of the karma which has different parameters like ego and desire - increases, decreases and keeps it as it is.

    The residual karmaphal decides which of the 14 lokas it will get attached to and when.

    Cells remaining the same, combination and evolution due to particular usage pattern (cognitive, ML, AI, etc) decides on the intelligence and correlated performance ability.

    Based on the loka, HW framework capability varies and thus the intelligence and performance ability.

    It has been quite an useful and meaningful discussion and knowledge sharing. Thank you for sharing these so valuable insights.

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    Namaste,

    Pleasure to share the knowledge with you and thanks for putting forward thought provoking questions

    Sarwam Sri Vaasudeva Krishnaarpanamastu

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