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  1. Re: I need help to my questions as to why do i feel the need to listen to Shiva mantr

    Hi and thank you very much for this encouraging reply.


    I also have build up a courage to talk to my parents regarding this, full disclosure: according to them we have Rom/Roma/Sinti descendants and they did not seem surprised much because according to them our ancestors, interestingly both sides, father and mothers, something i have never been told by my parents, like 4 to 7 generations before and apparently all the previous generations as well were as mentioned above Rom/Roma/Sinti and they believed in Shiva but due to European misunderstanding and them believing the Rom/Roma/Sinti to be devil worshipers, they have stopped that because of persecutions and adapted Christianity over time which sadly did not help much but Rom/Roma/Sinti (Degeratory term >Gypsy) <that is the reason why i didnt use it but need to, i realized to make it clear which ppl im talking about. Because they have been hunted down over the millennia and generations all across Europe and been Killed in masses with the aim to eliminate them in World War 2, sorry for the long explanation and didnt mean to sound negative, but wanted to explain where apparently it appears that i come from according to my parents i seem to come from. This is a mystery on itself which appears to have revealed itself to me which makes me feel extremely strange like something has intervened in my life. I would have never on my own ever thought of my ancestors as being Rom/Roma/Sinti. According to my parents that is all that they know about our ancestors. I feel like some sort of beacon has activated in myself. it is in some sort a wonderful feeling in someways liberating and at the same time somehow i feel sad...

    thank you very much and appreciate all the input or information anyone is willing to add

    P.S.: regarding my name on the forum here, that is how i felt my whole life, but something is changing inside me in the past weeks

    Quote Originally Posted by devotee View Post
    Namaste iis,

    First of all, your pseudo name taken on this forum doesn't resonate well with teachings of Hindu Dharma. You are not insignificant ? Who told you that you were insignificant ? If you can recognize yourself, you would know beyond all doubts that you are none but Omniscient, Omnipotent, Omnipresent Shiva, the Brahman ! If you are insignificant, the Truth, the Reality all becomes insignificant ! ... and what is the harm ? The harm is that you would "become" what you think you are. Why ? Because you are Omnipotent and your Will is not insignificant Will ... It is always the Will of God and therefore you must have a thought, a very convincing thought that you are none but Brahman ... none but Shiva Himself ! "Shivoham, Shivoham" (I am Shiva ! I am Shiva !) ... but perhaps, I am going too fast for your stage. So, not any further for now but have a strong and more positive thought about yourself and this is very important. This is a marked difference from what the Abrahimic religions teach you : You are sinner ! You need some one like Jesus to redeem you .... etc. I am not saying that that is all wrong but if you have chosen Hindu Dharma .... take this positive path. Believe me, it is much better and the direct one.

    After reading your post I can say that you have found the right path. Shiva is calling you. You are blessed. It is so simple calling Shiva to your heart and mind ! Do you know that Shiva is so childlike innocent and simple ... He melts so easily at your pains ... He is Maheshwara ... the greatest Lord of all ! The whole creation is nothing but great dance of Shiva ! So, consider yourself lucky that Shiva Himself calling you.

    Why is it happening to you ? I will tell you. Nothing happens to us without a reason in our life. The society you are born within, the parents that you get, the friends that you meet, the spouse that you meet ... etc. nothing is by chance here. It is all decided by the Laws of Karma and Grace of God/Guru. This life to you has not come out of the blue at your birth and would not vanish in thin air when you die. It is an infinite continuum. You have been taking births after births and meeting deaths after deaths for an Infinite period. So, Shiva's calling you is because of your own Karma. I strongly feel that you might have been an ardent devotee of Shiva in your previous birth. That samskaar (Impressions of the Karma) must have been very strong to pull you again towards the bhakti of Shiva. So, take a jump and merge yourself in Shiva. Become One with Shiva !

    OM
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    Re: I need help to my questions as to why do i feel the need to listen to Shiva mantr

    Namaste Significant,

    Go ahead ! Everything will change for better if you just change your thoughts. Our thoughts are very powerful. This is what VedAnta in Hindu Dharma teaches us. There is Shiva in each one of us. The only need is to recognise Him within us. We have highly reputed Shiva Bhaktas on this forum. Eastern Mind and Yajvan can help you.

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    Quote Originally Posted by iaminsignificant View Post
    Hi and thank you very much for this encouraging reply.


    I also have build up a courage to talk to my parents regarding this, full disclosure: according to them we have Rom/Roma/Sinti descendants and they did not seem surprised much because according to them our ancestors, interestingly both sides, father and mothers, something i have never been told by my parents, like 4 to 7 generations before and apparently all the previous generations as well were as mentioned above Rom/Roma/Sinti and they believed in Shiva but due to European misunderstanding and them believing the Rom/Roma/Sinti to be devil worshipers, they have stopped that because of persecutions and adapted Christianity over time which sadly did not help much but Rom/Roma/Sinti (Degeratory term >Gypsy) <that is the reason why i didnt use it but need to, i realized to make it clear which ppl im talking about. Because they have been hunted down over the millennia and generations all across Europe and been Killed in masses with the aim to eliminate them in World War 2, sorry for the long explanation and didnt mean to sound negative, but wanted to explain where apparently it appears that i come from according to my parents i seem to come from. This is a mystery on itself which appears to have revealed itself to me which makes me feel extremely strange like something has intervened in my life. I would have never on my own ever thought of my ancestors as being Rom/Roma/Sinti. According to my parents that is all that they know about our ancestors. I feel like some sort of beacon has activated in myself. it is in some sort a wonderful feeling in someways liberating and at the same time somehow i feel sad...

    thank you very much and appreciate all the input or information anyone is willing to add

    P.S.: regarding my name on the forum here, that is how i felt my whole life, but something is changing inside me in the past weeks
    "Om Namo Bhagvate Vaasudevaye"

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    Re: I need help to my questions as to why do i feel the need to listen to Shiva mantr

    Namaste Significant,

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    Re: I need help to my questions as to why do i feel the need to listen to Shiva mantr

    Namaste Significant Ji,

    Ji is a word that gives the higest respect to someone and Namaste means that the divinity in me is recognizing the same divinity to the person or persons being addressed

    So dont feel awkward in saying it, ultimately its your choice but it wont be a problem to show some confidence by saying it.

    I am a westener by the way and Born in England

    I have no problem to use any of the greetings or ways to to communicate, I often use Jai siya Ram, jay sri ram, hare krsna, jai guru datta, harahara mahadeva, om namah shivaya. Even when I go shopping or at any given situation or even stopping strangers in the street to tell them they are divine spark or their essence is divine, its what people need to hear and usually i get good response, if others judge doesnt matter, if we find this path of sanatana dharma it something to be joyful about and thta joy is ever fresh and ever increasing, it picks us up when nothing else can.

    TEXT 2
    raja-vidya raja-guhyam
    pavitram idam uttamam
    pratyaksavagamam dharmyam
    su-sukham kartum avyayam

    SYNONYMS
    raja-vidya—the king of education; raja-guhyam—the king of confidential knowledge; pavitram—the purest; idam—this; uttamam—transcendental; pratyaksa—directly experienced; avagamam—understood; dharmyam—the principle of truth; susukham—very happy; kartum—to execute; avyayam—everlasting.
    TRANSLATION
    This knowledge is the king of education, the most secret of all secrets. It is the purest knowledge, and because it gives direct perception of the Self by realization, it is the perfection of Truth. It is everlasting, and it is joyfully performed.

    Be happy, try be positive and enliven yourself, its hard sometimes and I have had lots of adversity against me but why give up the solution to all problems and ills in this world. We are all one family one interconnected being.



    Chapter 10: The Opulence of the Absolute

    TEXT 9
    mac-citta mad-gata-prana
    bodhayantah parasparam
    kathayantas ca mam nityam
    tusyanti ca ramanti ca

    SYNONYMS
    mat-cittah—minds fully engaged in Me; mat-gata-pranah—lives devoted to the service of Krsna; bodhayantah—
    enlightening (with divine knowledge); parasparam—among themselves; kathayantah ca—talking also; mam—about Me; nityam—perpetually; tusyanti—are pleased; ca—also; ramanti—enjoy transcendental bliss; ca—also.
    TRANSLATION
    The thoughts of My pure devotees dwell in Me, their lives are surrendered to Me, and they derive great satisfaction and bliss enlightening one another and conversing about Me.

    Life is not easy and has many challenges but this is the solution to see the divinity in ourself and everything around us, and even if we get slight glimpse into this what a blessing it is, it gets us up early in the morning and when we rest at night we look forward to the next day, even if life throws the most severe challenges at us, even if we feel insignificant this spirit cant be dampened

    nainaḿ chindanti śastrāṇi
    nainaḿ dahati pāvakaḥ
    na cainaḿ kledayanty āpo
    na śoṣayati mārutaḥ
    Translation of Bhagavad Gita 2.23

    The divine spark can never be cut to pieces by any weapon, nor burned by fire, nor moistened by water, nor withered by the wind.

    We learn to take refuge in this, and then celebrate, even if nobody else joins in with us it doesnt matter.

    We have a great chance to free our minds and hearts from all the problems, thats something we should try to grab with both hands and share this as far as possible, it cant contained, it will find a way out and not only liberate us but all around us.

    I was part of the Hare Krsna group years ago and still have some contact every now and again and it hurts and pains me when some devotees consider them selves worthless and fallen, its not seeing whats been given to us.

    Hare Krsna, hare ram, jai sri radhe shyam

    om namah shivaya
    jai guru datta

    be happy be inspired feel blessed enjoy good sangha, smile everyday even if no body wants to smile with you.

    There is enough in this world of competition of people trying to make themselves superior at the cost of others.

    Pranam


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