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    Advaita v. Dvaita

    Could anyone explain the basic difference?
    Thanks.

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    Re: Advaita v. Dvaita

    Hello Porpoise

    The basic difference is in their view on metaphysics.
    For Dvaita (literally dualism.. Dvi means dual or two) asserts there is inherently real difference between self (atma or jiva) and non-self (like body, tree, car, space, gods, animals etc)

    For advaita (a-dvaita, non dual) asserts there is no inherently real different between self and non-self... If there is only apparently real difference between things and self

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    Re: Advaita v. Dvaita

    Thanks for that. Is there anything in the texts which refers specifically to this distinction, eg Vedas, Upanishads, 'Gita etc?
    I've also heard it said that this is about the relationship between Atman and Brahman (same v. different), is this correct?

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    Re: Advaita v. Dvaita

    Namaste Porpoise

    I've also heard it said that this is about the relationship between Atman and Brahman (same v. different), is this correct?
    Yes, that‘s what Lokavidu said.

    Is there anything in the texts which refers specifically to this distinction, eg Vedas, Upanishads, 'Gita etc?
    Find following an in-depth article on the subject
    https://www.boloji.com/articles/15606/from-agni-to-om

    Pranam
    Dance with Shiva - live with Shiva - merge with Shiva

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    Re: Advaita v. Dvaita

    Quote Originally Posted by Porpoise View Post
    Thanks for that. Is there anything in the texts which refers specifically to this distinction, eg Vedas, Upanishads, 'Gita etc?
    I've also heard it said that this is about the relationship between Atman and Brahman (same v. different), is this correct?
    As I know, in srutis (like vedas, upanishads are part of vedas) there are no spesific reference for this distinction... But you can find it easily in smrtis : like brahma sutra...and the other commentaries of srutis by many acharyas belong to advaita or dvaita.. They were debating each other view..

    To learn advaita or dvaita correctly, someone is suggested to learn the commentaries by the acharyas because just reading the srutis directly is much more difficult..
    Even better if someone can learn under the acharya

    Yes the relationship between atman and brahman is analyzed by each other..they offer their own explanation and defending their views from other.....

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    Re: Advaita v. Dvaita

    Dvaita understands Parabrahman as being different from the self, whereas Advaita considers non-dual, i.e., that one is also Parabrahman and simply has to realize it.

    The best scripture for this question may be Sri Guru Gita.
    Gam Gam Ganapati
    https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=2mXQjrK1bwQ

    Dattavani.org
    https://dattavani.org/pravachana-malika/datta-vaakya/

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    Re: Advaita v. Dvaita

    Quote Originally Posted by Porpoise View Post
    Could anyone explain the basic difference?
    Thanks.
    There is no difference between advaita and dvaita

    Dvaita, technically known as tattvavada deals specifically with purusha, prakriti and jiva, when these are in union there is advaita or wholeness, and jiva prakriti and purusha still remain.

    To say there is a difference with dvaita and advaita is to say that in vedant, there is a difference between turiya~pure consciousness and jagrat~waking state consciousness.

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    That is highly misleading and untrue.
    Dvaita is dualism - God and I are different. Advaita is based on oneness.
    However, Dvaita is usually required or recommended first. We worship God.

    Does this help? I'm sorry, the above poster used to follow me around and fight and attack, and I'm afraid it may have begun again. (I post here, now he follows.)
    They are not the same. Is Hanuman the same as Krishna? It's pure discordancy.

    Sri Ramakrishna is another good source my friend.

    In Sri Ramakrishna, the topic is presented as whether we have individuality -- or, 'I-ness', as it is called.

    The topic is thoroughly and satisfyingly discussed.
    To say they are the same is either purposefully misleading. Or misunderstanding.
    Gam Gam Ganapati
    https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=2mXQjrK1bwQ

    Dattavani.org
    https://dattavani.org/pravachana-malika/datta-vaakya/

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    Re: Advaita v. Dvaita

    Quote Originally Posted by Lokavidu View Post
    Hello Porpoise

    The basic difference is in their view on metaphysics.
    For Dvaita (literally dualism.. Dvi means dual or two) asserts there is inherently real difference between self (atma or jiva) and non-self (like body, tree, car, space, gods, animals etc)

    For advaita (a-dvaita, non dual) asserts there is no inherently real different between self and non-self... If there is only apparently real difference between things and self
    Yes or between God and oneself. In Sri Ramakrishna, the question often arose in discussions.
    Gam Gam Ganapati
    https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=2mXQjrK1bwQ

    Dattavani.org
    https://dattavani.org/pravachana-malika/datta-vaakya/

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    Re: Advaita v. Dvaita

    Porpoise,

    You can find some of this by looking up various saint-philosophers.

    As Lokavidu explains, there are acharyas who debated this..

    Ramanuja was one of the big ones for Dvaita, he is mostly admired by Vaisnava (and was one.) Especially in Gaudiya Vaisnavism.

    You should be able to find some things he's written.

    Ramanuja.

    Then, for Advaita you also have Sankaracarya, but he is a bit ancient.

    At the end, he wrote for Bhakti (worship and devotion of God in a a personal sense, i.e., Dvaita), in his work "Bhaja Govindam."

    You can find this and commentaries of it.

    In this hymn ‘Bhaja Govindam’, Adi Shankaracharya elucidates clearly those dangers which are harmful and from which the person should clearly stay away. He also teaches the ways through which the person can break free from those dangers. He details the ways of this world, the nature of the human beings and those matters/ objects towards which people are normally attracted. The greatness/ significance of time (kala mahima) is taught. The duties that the person should mandatorily engage in during his lifetime are taught.
    He teaches just as a mother would teach her child.

    Without any distinction of caste, religion or gender, every individual is entitled to listen/ read this intense teaching.
    http://www.dattavani.org/pravachana-...haja-govindam/

    Sort of an intro, the rest is good.

    Besides this, Swami Vivekananda comes to mind as well. Swami Vivekananda is one of the greatest thought by many. He wrote and explained all topics and especially this one.

    He taught Advaita Vedanta, so it would be a good place to study.

    Wikiquotes is good and almost all of his works are online.

    https://en.m.wikiquote.org/wiki/Swami_Vivekananda

    Here is a beautiful collection of his works:

    https://en.m.wikisource.org/wiki/The...mi_Vivekananda

    Just click on the Volume and then the topic (Bhakti, Vedanta, etc.)

    Now, also remember that these terms occur as well, Bhakti and Jnana, and so forth. While Dvaita and Advaita could be said to be called philosophies, Bhakti and Jnana are the corresponding approaches of these. Bhakti is devotion, and Jnana knowledge.

    Best wishes!
    Let us know how it goes.
    Peace.

    "Studying the Bhagavatam is the most peaceful thing you can do." - Sri Ganapati Sachidananda Swami

    "The Vedanta recognizes no sin, it only recognizes error." - Swami Vivekananda
    Gam Gam Ganapati
    https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=2mXQjrK1bwQ

    Dattavani.org
    https://dattavani.org/pravachana-malika/datta-vaakya/

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