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    Transiting (sankrati) Sani to Leo - Post 1

    Hari Om
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    Om pram prim prom sah sanischaraya namah (Saturn's graha mantra)

    Namaste,

    On July 15th Sani transits into Leo, owned by Surya the Sun. From that position Sani will aspect the 3rd, 7th and 10th houses from that position i.e.Libra, Aquarius and Taurus. Each graha has a specific aspect, or graha dristi. This aspect is a 100% view to these other houses of the 3rd, 7th and 10th.

    This post and others will offer some ideas on Sani and its sankrati ( transit) into Leo the natural 5th house of Bha Chakra (some call Kala Purusha or Body Of Time)

    Sani -Foundational Information - post 1
    Special considerations and Sani Transit Evaluation In Leo (house by house) - post 2
    Items of interest - post 3

    Transits - a simple explanation
    Transits stimulate what is latent in ones chart. It ( a quality, action, karma, kama, artha, etc) must be there inherent in the chart. The transit stimulates the influence to manifest. Just like a guitar. Until the stings are plucked, then the vibration occurs and sends its sound into the environment. Sometimes the melody is uplifting, and sometimes not. It is the graha's that create the strumming on ones chart (guitar). Like that the influences are experienced.

    Signification of Sani
    Sani is known as the slow moving one ( even walks with a limp) Why so? He takes 29.5 years to complete one rotation around the sun and stays in a rasi ( sign) for 2 1/2 years. His impact is slow, sure and deliberate. What are some of the things that Sani owns or influences?

    The Karaka's ( signifcators) of Sani
    • Career ( 10th house activity) and prosperity earned
    • Work - hard work ( Labor) , hence the arms and the legs ( 3rd house for hands and arms)
    • Longevity & Aging - hence old age, illnesses, one's durability as sani is karaka of the 8th house.
    • Sani owns the natural dasa period of 70 years of age and up, hence karaka of old age.
    • Philosophical thinking, justice - introspection and meditation; also a moksha karaka with Ketu, and is karaka of renunciation (monks, ascetics, hermits)

    • Sani owns vayu tattva and this is the quality of touch; also this gives influence to vatta constitution; a lightness to the body
    • Focus and one pointedness - tapas, steady, enlightenment though isolation ( Sani is a loner)
    • Health issues of breathing, of dust and dirt ( as it moves with the air/wind); gas and stomach issues
    • Saturn governs grief - this can be from past actions ( karma), from sins, fear and obstacles
    • Fall from heights , including career
    • Damage of limbs ( Sani limps), bone fractures, also teeth disfigurements
    • Saturn also stands for practical wisdom that is derived from daily life.
      Saturn is shudra varna or servant - plain speech, down to earth, steady and dependable work
    • Saturn is of tamo-guna and hence , slow, perhaps sloth, some say apravriti or lack of desires for right action.
      Sani and the 6 tastes in Ayurveda - he owns astringent. There is sweet, sour and salty (all Americans know theses tastes), then there pungent , bitter and astringent; All 6 together brings balance of all the grahas
    • Saturn owns Saturday, and the west direction [directly opposite of the sun's ownership direction]
    Who are Sani's Graha Friends?
    Mercury and Venus. Who can Sani do without ? Sun ( which is sani's father, go figure eh? I am still trying to figure out where the issues are here), Moon and Mar's and who is he indifferent to ? Jupiter.

    So, Sani is moving to a sign (rasi) that he is not friendly with, that of Leo, owned by the sun. The Sun and Sani would be considered anti-identic. Lets take a look at the signs as lagna's ( or ascendants) and view where Sani is a friend (mitra), a enemy relationship exists (satru), a neutral (samya) condition exists between Sani and the ascendant lord owner.

    Sani - A look From The Native's Ascendant
    So the question is, what will Sani bring to the native while in the natural 5th house of the Bha Chakra (zodiac)? It depends if Sani is a benefic or malific in ones chart AND if this position is mitigated by the Ashtakavarga conditions of the sign (rasi) sani is transiting. Post number 2 will explain Ashtakavarga, but for now, the notion is how strong or favorable is the sign that Sani is transiting? This is measured in by Ashtakavarga, a specific technique Parashara muni has given the Jyotishi in the age of Kali.

    Favorable Lagna's
    So, when is sani most favorable ? It is for the native that has Taurus as their lagna . Why so? Then sani owns the 9th and 10th houses. A trine and a kendra, very favorable houses and by the way in this condition, sani owns the 9th and 10th ( Capricorn and Aquarius) when Taurus is the lagna. Also note that Venus is a friend to sani, and Taurus rasi is owned by Venus ( Sukracharaya). Another sign owned by Venus is Libra, so Libra ascendant natives Will find sani friendly.
    Two other rasi's , that of Capricorn or Aquarius are favorable , as sani is the lord/ownsthese two signs.
    Favorable Lagna's: Taurus + Libra Lagna's are best, followed by Capricorn and Aquarius Lagna's( Owned by Venus and Saturn)

    Mixed in Favorability
    Another friend to Sani is Mercury - and he owns Gemini and Virgo. Yet the benefits are Mixed with Gemini Lagna as Sani owns the 8th and 9th houses. The 9th is favorable , yet the 8th house is mixed, It one of moksha yet also chronic ailments, longevity, scandalous behavior, falling from high places, etc. And with Virgo, Sani owns the 5th house ( a trine and positive) + the 6th, which is a dustana ( like the 8th) causes setbacks . The 6th house is the house of enemies, rivals, competitive, struggles, etc. Yet the 6th house is a upachaya, that is, it improves over time with effort.
    Mixed: Gemini and Virgo ( Owned my Mercury)

    Mixed to Unfavorable Lagna's
    Aries as a lagna is unfavorable because Sani is the owner of the badkasthana or the house/owner of obstruction and that is the 11th house from Aries or Aquarius.
    Sani owns the 10th house, a good kenda ( angle or 1,4,7 or 10th house from the ascendant ) house, yet the badak condition is unfavorable. And We know trhat Sani and Mar's are not the best of friends, so what other house does Mars own? Scorpio

    With Same with Scorpio its considered ( to me) mixed to neutral. As sani owns the 3th house and the 4th. There is no badak influence directly. The 3th house is that of co-borns, courage, strength, arms hands even fuun and some adventure, which is all good yes? So where is the blemish? The 3rd house is the 8th sign counted from the 8th house and hense a maraka or killer.
    Where is the good part? The 4th house ownership of home, education (not intelligence), vehicles, hobbies, and general happienss. Well sani is not the party-kind-of-graha. So these areas will be infleunced by sani's sterness, one-pointed behaviors, etc.

    Sagittarius Lagna - Sani owns the 2nd and 3rd houses. Sanu is Neutral to Jupiter as is Jupiter is to Sani. Other's may suggest that Sagittaris is a purely unfavorable
    Lagna, yet Sani owning the 2nd (wealth) and 3rd ( arms, hands) etc will , in my estimatation give mixed results.

    Mixed to Unfavorable Lagna's: Aries and Scorpio ( Owned by Mars), Sagittarius ( owned by Jupiter)

    Unfavorable Lagna's
    Who are these unfavorable signs?
    Pisces Lagna - Sani then owns the 11th house and the 12th house. The 11th house is one of gains and a upachaya, which means grow in strength over time. The 12th is considered an unfavorable house ( a dusthana) and the lord carries this negativity with it.

    Cancer Lagna - Sani then owns the 7th and 8 houses. Both unfavorable. The 7th lord is a maraka or killing graha , and the 8th even tough a moksha house, brings ailments, cheating, etc. unless checked. Now its said that a malefic ( that would be sani) owning a Kendra ( 1st, 4th ,7th our 10th houses) can take on positive energy and assist in ones chart. So, some good may come of this in areas that the 7th owns - relationships, co-habitation, partnerships, etc.

    Unfavorable: Pisces, Cancer ( owned by Jupiter, Cancer); some would add Sagittarius, the other Rasi owned by Jupiter
    and Aries due to Badak rasi of Aquarius.

    This ends post 1.


    Vyasadeva's [Veda Vayasa muni] Mantra to Sanishcharaya
    Neelanjanasamabhasam raviputram yamagrajam
    Chhayamartamdasambhutam tam namami


    Pranams,

    Posted: Saturday, sunrise 4:52 AM, facing west.: Hora Lord ( lord of the Hour) Sani; Lord of the day Sani; Kala Lord; Sani; Sukla Pratipat Titihi , Lord of the 1st tithi is Agni; Nakshatra is Punavasu owned by Jupiter.
    Last edited by yajvan; 14 July 2007 at 09:22 AM.
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    Re: Transiting (sankrati) Sani to Leo - Post 1

    hariḥ oṁ
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    Namasté

    On the 9th of September at ~ 16 hrs. 7 min ( Universal time, some call GMT), Saturn or śanaiscara, śani शनि will transit into Virgo

    I wrote in a past post:
    This śanais शनैस् means quietly , softly , gently , gradually. We have śanais as gradually, softly + cara चर moving, walking , wondering.
    Hence śani is considered śanaye kramati sa - the one possessing or containing ~ with the attribute~ (sa) who moves or preceeds ( krama) slowly (śani), quietly (śanais).

    We know it takes śani some 29.7 years to make one complete trip around sūrya, his father - hence the slow moving one.

    From this we can deduce he owns the last day of the week ( slowest or arriving last); He is high in patience, as patience comes with time and steadiness. This patience and steadiness gives way to being deliberate and purposeful. From this we can also see perseverance in difficult times. From this steadiness, one can groom devotion (bhakti).

    Many fear śani for the wrong reasons (IMHO). More on śanaiscara at this hdf post: http://www.hindudharmaforums.com/showthread.php?t=2941


    Where did śani transit from? Here is an older HDF post:
    Om pram prim prom sah sanischaraya namah (Saturn's graha mantra)

    Namaste,

    On July 15th Sani transits into Leo, owned by Surya the Sun. From that position Sani will aspect the 3rd, 7th and 10th houses from that position i.e.Libra, Aquarius and Taurus. Each graha has a specific aspect, or graha dristi. This aspect is a 100% view to these other houses of the 3rd, 7th and 10th.

    This post and others will offer some ideas on Sani and its sankrati ( transit) into Leo the natural 5th house of Bha Chakra (some call Kala Purusha or Body Of Time)

    Sani -Foundational Information - post 1
    Special considerations and Sani Transit Evaluation In Leo (house by house) - post 2
    Items of interest - post 3

    Transits - a simple explanation
    Transits stimulate what is latent in ones chart. It ( a quality, action, karma, kama, artha, etc) must be there inherent in the chart. The transit stimulates the influence to manifest. Just like a guitar. Until the stings are plucked, then the vibration occurs and sends its sound into the environment. Sometimes the melody is uplifting, and sometimes not. It is the graha's that create the strumming on ones chart (guitar). Like that the influences are experienced.

    Signification of Sani
    Sani is known as the slow moving one ( even walks with a limp) Why so? He takes 29.5 years to complete one rotation around the sun and stays in a rasi ( sign) for 2 1/2 years. His impact is slow, sure and deliberate. What are some of the things that Sani owns or influences?

    The Karaka's ( signifcators) of Sani
    • Career ( 10th house activity) and prosperity earned
    • Work - hard work ( Labor) , hence the arms and the legs ( 3rd house for hands and arms)
    • Longevity & Aging - hence old age, illnesses, one's durability as sani is karaka of the 8th house.
    • Sani owns the natural dasa period of 70 years of age and up, hence karaka of old age.
    • Philosophical thinking, justice - introspection and meditation; also a moksha karaka with Ketu, and is karaka of renunciation (monks, ascetics, hermits)

    • Sani owns vayu tattva and this is the quality of touch; also this gives influence to vatta constitution; a lightness to the body
    • Focus and one pointedness - tapas, steady, enlightenment though isolation ( Sani is a loner)
    • Health issues of breathing, of dust and dirt ( as it moves with the air/wind); gas and stomach issues
    • Saturn governs grief - this can be from past actions ( karma), from sins, fear and obstacles
    • Fall from heights , including career
    • Damage of limbs ( Sani limps), bone fractures, also teeth disfigurements
    • Saturn also stands for practical wisdom that is derived from daily life.
      Saturn is shudra varna or servant - plain speech, down to earth, steady and dependable work
    • Saturn is of tamo-guna and hence , slow, perhaps sloth, some say apravriti or lack of desires for right action.
      Sani and the 6 tastes in Ayurveda - he owns astringent. There is sweet, sour and salty (all Americans know theses tastes), then there pungent , bitter and astringent; All 6 together brings balance of all the grahas
    • Saturn owns Saturday, and the west direction [directly opposite of the sun's ownership direction]
    Who are Sani's Graha Friends?
    Mercury and Venus. Who can Sani do without ? Sun ( which is sani's father, go figure eh? I am still trying to figure out where the issues are here), Moon and Mar's and who is he indifferent to ? Jupiter.

    So, Sani is moving to a sign (rasi) that he is not friendly with, that of Leo, owned by the sun. The Sun and Sani would be considered anti-identic. Lets take a look at the signs as lagna's ( or ascendants) and view where Sani is a friend (mitra), a enemy relationship exists (satru), a neutral (samya) condition exists between Sani and the ascendant lord owner.

    Sani - A look From The Native's Ascendant
    So the question is, what will Sani bring to the native while in the natural 5th house of the Bha Chakra (zodiac)? It depends if Sani is a benefic or malific in ones chart AND if this position is mitigated by the Ashtakavarga conditions of the sign (rasi) sani is transiting. Post number 2 will explain Ashtakavarga, but for now, the notion is how strong or favorable is the sign that Sani is transiting? This is measured in by Ashtakavarga, a specific technique Parashara muni has given the Jyotishi in the age of Kali.

    Favorable Lagna's
    So, when is sani most favorable ? It is for the native that has Taurus as their lagna . Why so? Then sani owns the 9th and 10th houses. A trine and a kendra, very favorable houses and by the way in this condition, sani owns the 9th and 10th ( Capricorn and Aquarius) when Taurus is the lagna. Also note that Venus is a friend to sani, and Taurus rasi is owned by Venus ( Sukracharaya). Another sign owned by Venus is Libra, so Libra ascendant natives Will find sani friendly.
    Two other rasi's , that of Capricorn or Aquarius are favorable , as sani is the lord/ownsthese two signs.
    Favorable Lagna's: Taurus + Libra Lagna's are best, followed by Capricorn and Aquarius Lagna's( Owned by Venus and Saturn)

    Mixed in Favorability
    Another friend to Sani is Mercury - and he owns Gemini and Virgo. Yet the benefits are Mixed with Gemini Lagna as Sani owns the 8th and 9th houses. The 9th is favorable , yet the 8th house is mixed, It one of moksha yet also chronic ailments, longevity, scandalous behavior, falling from high places, etc. And with Virgo, Sani owns the 5th house ( a trine and positive) + the 6th, which is a dustana ( like the 8th) causes setbacks . The 6th house is the house of enemies, rivals, competitive, struggles, etc. Yet the 6th house is a upachaya, that is, it improves over time with effort.
    Mixed: Gemini and Virgo ( Owned my Mercury)

    Mixed to Unfavorable Lagna's
    Aries as a lagna is unfavorable because Sani is the owner of the badkasthana or the house/owner of obstruction and that is the 11th house from Aries or Aquarius.
    Sani owns the 10th house, a good kenda ( angle or 1,4,7 or 10th house from the ascendant ) house, yet the badak condition is unfavorable. And We know trhat Sani and Mar's are not the best of friends, so what other house does Mars own? Scorpio

    With Same with Scorpio its considered ( to me) mixed to neutral. As sani owns the 3th house and the 4th. There is no badak influence directly. The 3th house is that of co-borns, courage, strength, arms hands even fuun and some adventure, which is all good yes? So where is the blemish? The 3rd house is the 8th sign counted from the 8th house and hense a maraka or killer.
    Where is the good part? The 4th house ownership of home, education (not intelligence), vehicles, hobbies, and general happienss. Well sani is not the party-kind-of-graha. So these areas will be infleunced by sani's sterness, one-pointed behaviors, etc.

    Sagittarius Lagna - Sani owns the 2nd and 3rd houses. Sanu is Neutral to Jupiter as is Jupiter is to Sani. Other's may suggest that Sagittaris is a purely unfavorable
    Lagna, yet Sani owning the 2nd (wealth) and 3rd ( arms, hands) etc will , in my estimatation give mixed results.

    Mixed to Unfavorable Lagna's: Aries and Scorpio ( Owned by Mars), Sagittarius ( owned by Jupiter)

    Unfavorable Lagna's
    Who are these unfavorable signs?
    Pisces Lagna - Sani then owns the 11th house and the 12th house. The 11th house is one of gains and a upachaya, which means grow in strength over time. The 12th is considered an unfavorable house ( a dusthana) and the lord carries this negativity with it.

    Cancer Lagna - Sani then owns the 7th and 8 houses. Both unfavorable. The 7th lord is a maraka or killing graha , and the 8th even tough a moksha house, brings ailments, cheating, etc. unless checked. Now its said that a malefic ( that would be sani) owning a Kendra ( 1st, 4th ,7th our 10th houses) can take on positive energy and assist in ones chart. So, some good may come of this in areas that the 7th owns - relationships, co-habitation, partnerships, etc.

    Unfavorable: Pisces, Cancer ( owned by Jupiter, Cancer); some would add Sagittarius, the other Rasi owned by Jupiter
    and Aries due to Badak rasi of Aquarius.

    This ends post 1.
    Vyasadeva's [Veda Vayasa muni] Mantra to Sanishcharaya
    Neelanjanasamabhasam raviputram yamagrajam
    Chhayamartamdasambhutam tam namami
    praṇām
    Last edited by yajvan; 30 August 2009 at 04:21 PM.
    यतस्त्वं शिवसमोऽसि
    yatastvaṁ śivasamo'si
    because you are identical with śiva

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    Re: Transiting (sankrati) Sani to Leo - Post 1

    so what would be effect of sani moving to virgo?
    wat are the favourable and unfavourable lagnas for this move?
    can you please eloborate

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    Re: Transiting (sankrati) Sani to Leo - Post 1

    What will now happen to Leo.

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