Re: 96% missing knowledge...
Hari Om
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Originally Posted by
sarabhanga
Namaste Yajvan,
The measurable universe measures 4% of the immeasurable universe, which has been measured to be 24 times greater than what we are able to measure (??)
The whole 100% has not (and will never be) directly observed, but it has been logically inferred.
Should we insist that direct physical observation is the ONLY test of true knowledge?
The immeasurable 96% is particularly referring to unobserved (but inferred) mass. So are you suggesting that prANa has mass?
Namaste sarabhanga,
Let me address a few of your questions, yet not I am not sure what your question/position is on point 1 below.
- " of the immeasurable universe, which has been measured to be 24 times greater than what we are able to measure (??)"
I assume you are saying .04 X24 = .96 and therefore ____? - Should we insist that direct physical observation is the ONLY test of true knowledge?
Absolutely not. That is the point of my post. That satyam is beyond just physical measurement, because of the subtleness of the subject at hand.
> Dark Matter is inferred; Dark Energy is inferred. It is what makes the calculations work and as of yet without quanta, less neutrinos which have been indirectly measured; Neutrino's answers lots of spiritual questions for me yet we will leave that for another time. - The whole 100% has not (and will never be) directly observed, but it has been logically inferred.
While I respect your opinion, I have a different view on this matter. For me, 'directly observed' also means cognized in consciousness. I think you were leaning to mean directly observed via instruments or the individuals eye. Yes, I see your point. Yet I wish to add that consciousness, a field of all possibilities is also a tool for metrics; many will think this to be the verjuice of the conversation. - Are you suggesting that prANa has mass?
Ya know, I really don't know; Prana is a substance of finer resolution. It is a reality and our physical body uses it; perhaps it has a physical composition that is even beyond subtle. Yet it really exists and may have a manifest quality in prakrti. Can the rishi's tell us if this is the essence of this dark energy or a component of dark matter? That was my point without all the verbiage.
I continue to think of what one of my teachers told us again and again:
There is nothing in the cosmos, either in the material plane or in the spiritual plane which cannot be directly cognized. [The] Veda's provide a direct method of direct cognition of material existence in this unlimited cosmos and also they provide a direct technique to cognize that which is evenly permeating, evenly pervading the entire physical structure of the cosmos; That all pervading reality, Almighty God.
pranams,
Last edited by yajvan; 29 October 2007 at 11:51 AM.
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